General & Others The official translator of Brazilian Manga Plus has just exposed Stephen Paul, the translator...
Stop with nonsense already Kaido is not the strongest , he never was or will be he was just hyped as next villain , he got defeated he is gone now. We already were there with Whitebeard and even before. Stop taking those statements literally manga called Don Krieg as strongest in the world 4 times its manga fact Don Kreig > Kaido
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There is nothing new here, imo. It may be an L for those who denied this and grasped onto straws.
However, I do think that Mihawk is stronger than Kaido regardless of this translation.
Even deathbed Whitebeard has been repeatedly called the strongest man despite obviously not being that.
Zoro referred to Mihawk as the strongest power in the world in chapter 51, long before Whitebeard and Kaido were created.
And Mihawk holds the strongest weapon in the world which is a result of the strongest haki in the world.
And he is the last of the 3 World's Strongest and awaits the green beast to lift his haki above everyone else's.
However, I do think that Mihawk is stronger than Kaido regardless of this translation.
Even deathbed Whitebeard has been repeatedly called the strongest man despite obviously not being that.
Zoro referred to Mihawk as the strongest power in the world in chapter 51, long before Whitebeard and Kaido were created.
And Mihawk holds the strongest weapon in the world which is a result of the strongest haki in the world.
And he is the last of the 3 World's Strongest and awaits the green beast to lift his haki above everyone else's.
Japanese is gramatically vastly different than any Western language, a lot of things can be said in similar ways but have different meanings based on the general connotation and context.
This is why they have bunch of ways to say "I", because even though all have same meaning, conotations are vastly different (i.e., "boku" is generally used by boys while "ore" is a very impolite/egoistical way of saying "I")
You can see similar problem with translation of this panel even in the spoiler thread, as some imply one, some the other.
However, I find TDA's note to be interesting:
Even if "so called" is not a literal term used, based on which kanji or specific word constructed through hiragana/katakana in the context of sentence, it can be implied (hence the "sort of mocking way" mentioned by TDA)
At the end of the day, it simply isn't possible to fully appreciate the work when being consumed in a completely different culture and a different language.
The irony...
This is why they have bunch of ways to say "I", because even though all have same meaning, conotations are vastly different (i.e., "boku" is generally used by boys while "ore" is a very impolite/egoistical way of saying "I")
You can see similar problem with translation of this panel even in the spoiler thread, as some imply one, some the other.
However, I find TDA's note to be interesting:
For the sake of transparency, according to MShadows who lives in Japan and is fluent, Zoro refers to Kaido as the World's Strongest in a sort of mocking way:
Zoro: I have come here to cut down the so called “strongest in the world” Kaido!!!
Zoro: I have come here to cut down the so called “strongest in the world” Kaido!!!
Even if "so called" is not a literal term used, based on which kanji or specific word constructed through hiragana/katakana in the context of sentence, it can be implied (hence the "sort of mocking way" mentioned by TDA)
At the end of the day, it simply isn't possible to fully appreciate the work when being consumed in a completely different culture and a different language.
The irony...
Yeah good job on this.. It's not news to me though, i got some knowledge of Japanese and always go check the raws to make sure of what's being said.. There's tons of errors everywhere..
It's so Obvious that Kaido>Mihawk.. Even with poor translation it was obvious, Killer also confirmed it..
One big that comes to mind right now is Kouzaburo speaking about Cursed Blades.. He's not saying that they aren't Cursed(with power), he's saying that's just what Meitos are..
It's so Obvious that Kaido>Mihawk.. Even with poor translation it was obvious, Killer also confirmed it..
One big that comes to mind right now is Kouzaburo speaking about Cursed Blades.. He's not saying that they aren't Cursed(with power), he's saying that's just what Meitos are..
There will always be errors in them. I dont know if native Japanese would be able to perfectly convey Oda's intention let alone others...
Surely, if we find definitive proof for them being incorrect we should always point them out, especially in this fandom that overanalyzes every word in the hope it will match their agenda... Kaido is a beast, doubting him was never a wise idea.
Mihawk fans were ultimately right but they never had any concrete evidence against Kaido, it was only agenda.
I understand but you should also understand that Mihawk is the one who remains and is saved for the very finale and was referred to as the Strongest Power in the World long before Kaido and WB and now we are making a full circle, coming back to him.
Kaido's words >Haki conquers everything are literally Mihawk's hype tool and hint for him being the strongest if haki to forge the strongest weapon in the world wasnt enough of evidence...
Willpower is supreme in this show but DF users are getting the spotlight first.
The finale is between the 2 greatest hakimen that ever existed and nobody will be equal to them, imo.
There is no irony. I was respecting Kaido as the strongest until very recently until I found proof for him not being the strongest.
Ask any Kaido fan that I was arguing for him the whole time.
Surely, if we find definitive proof for them being incorrect we should always point them out, especially in this fandom that overanalyzes every word in the hope it will match their agenda... Kaido is a beast, doubting him was never a wise idea.
Mihawk fans were ultimately right but they never had any concrete evidence against Kaido, it was only agenda.
I understand but you should also understand that Mihawk is the one who remains and is saved for the very finale and was referred to as the Strongest Power in the World long before Kaido and WB and now we are making a full circle, coming back to him.
Kaido's words >Haki conquers everything are literally Mihawk's hype tool and hint for him being the strongest if haki to forge the strongest weapon in the world wasnt enough of evidence...
Willpower is supreme in this show but DF users are getting the spotlight first.
The finale is between the 2 greatest hakimen that ever existed and nobody will be equal to them, imo.
There is no irony. I was respecting Kaido as the strongest until very recently until I found proof for him not being the strongest.
Ask any Kaido fan that I was arguing for him the whole time.
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Yes, I found it strange that Kid and Killer were literally stating in one chapter that Kaido is the most powerful pirate in the world, and in the next chapter, Oda has Zoro saying, "They say." So, I went to verify this with an official translator, and he confirmed that neither the words "They say" nor "Man" are present in Zoro's speech. LMAO.
Not to mention that in Kaido's introduction, all translators, even teachers, translate it differently from the version published in English by VIZ.
So, basically, Stephen is writing his own manga, just using Oda's panels to avoid the trouble of drawing the manga.
Not to mention that in Kaido's introduction, all translators, even teachers, translate it differently from the version published in English by VIZ.
So, basically, Stephen is writing his own manga, just using Oda's panels to avoid the trouble of drawing the manga.