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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Etzel Andergast said:
I understanding that, he is showing why the situation come to this, but I'm curious if he blame or not what happened
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I think the terrorism started first and foremost with Israel. Zionism requires a forcible transfer of land from arab to jew so to create a jewish majority state which could have otherwise never been created as jews never had a majority in the land.

Is Hamas responsible for the attack? Sure

But I feel like people who are pro-Israel constantly use Hamas to obscure Israel's far greater responsibility.
 
AL sama

AL sama

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Logiko said:
Yapping its something. If at least it can bothers the like of the bigoted here and stop them from spitting hate, my work is done.



Let me rephrase your sentence: "You are not legitimate" "you are not worthy" "you are full of BS".. Continue being this toxic against the one who fight it and I will put you in the box of those who spit hate, and not those who fight it.



Let me rephrase your sentence: "Politic doesn't matter on a weeb forum" More proof that you are confused about the power of politic fights.



Let me rephrase your sentence: "I can't make a difference so I will fight for other not to make one"

You are the proof that I'm making a difference. The fact that I have a solid reputation of being a nutjob on this forum is the proof that I'm making a difference.

You actually care too much about what people think about you. Me on the other hand, I don't. If fighting hatred means that I have the entire forum against me, I'm fine with it. At least I will be standing for something. But you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing but taking people down. And this shows in the way you speak. I might be not speaking english very well, but I respect others, I ll not insult them at the first occasion.

Now go for it. Show me that you don't care about politic. Show me that you actually think that posting here don't make a difference..

.. And stop posting.
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here's a sincere advise if you really wanna help people then become a content creator and make videos on topics that you feel like the world needs to be aware of
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you can't go out but you can do this without going out
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Anyways, I don't actually support Hamas. I don't think their political ideology is very good. From my understanding they are antisemites and islamic fundamentalists.

But to what degree can I condemn their violence? These people are living in a prison. Their families were violently kicked out of their homes into this open air prison that Israel routinely bombs the shit out of.

They're living under the occupation of a power that wants nothing more than for them to die or be expelled for the growth of the "jewish" state.

Their have been numerous peace talks, and they have all gone nowhere.
All the attempts of appeasing Israel has gone nowhere.
There is no hamas in the west bank, and the people there are living under apartheid.

These people aren't inherently violent. They are violent because they were born into a world that gave them no other option but to be violent.
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I don't agree with people who cheered the Hamas attacks. Or the people who were happy that Israelis died.
Its awful that some people disrespect human life in that way.

But I don't think you can create true peace until you understand who is responsible for this decades long conflict. imo it can only be Israel and the western powers that support it.
 
AL sama

AL sama

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Monkey D Theories said:
Hot take. I think Israel deserved the October 7th attack by Hamas.

It’s a tragedy for any person to die, however….

In the Torah it is shown exactly what happens to nations when they go against the will of G-d. Egypt oppresssed the Israelites for decades. G-d gave the pharaoh many chances to change his ways and he didn’t listen. Then you all know what happened.

It’s the same thing for Israel. They oppresssed the Palestinians for decades. Jews aren’t even allowed to mistreat immigrants. That’s a line that’s been repeated multiple times in the Torah. “You shall not oppress the stranger amongst you for you were once strangers in Egypt…”

Then imagine how great of a sin it is to oppress the Palestinians who aren’t strangers, but are the native people of the land.

Yet israel did this for decades despite having ample opportunities to create peace. October 7th was the inevitable consequence of these evil actions.
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innocent people are innocent people regardless so this is utter nonsense
 
Logiko

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AL sama said:
this is the digital era fam so making videos is a better and faster option in my opinion
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I know, but there are already plenty of videos about political subject from people who are far better placed than me to talk (scientists, trans people, political personalities etc.). I think the best thing to do will be to share those already existing videos to avoid scattering the attention of the audience.

As for me, short videos are not my speciality. Mine is storytelling, at least, that's the only thing I think I can do. So I will use stories as a way to try open people's eyes about the world and make a difference. If it works good, if it doesn't, at least I tried.

Talking about sharing politic and humanity themed videos, here is the latest gem from Pop Culture detective:

 
AL sama

AL sama

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Logiko said:
I know, but there are already plenty of videos about political subject from people who are far better placed than me to talk (scientists, trans people, political personalities etc.). I think the best thing to do will be to share those already existing videos to avoid scattering the attention of the audience.

As for me, short videos are not my speciality. Mine is storytelling, at least, that's the only thing I think I can do. So I will use stories as a way to try open people's eyes about the world and make a difference. If it works good, if it doesn't, at least I tried.

Talking about sharing politic and humanity themed videos, here is the latest gem from Pop Culture detective:

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there are many anime youtubers but my channel is still growing
 
Monkey D Theories

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AL sama said:
innocent people are innocent people regardless
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It was a tragedy that those people died and individually, those people didn’t personally deserve to be punished for the crimes of their country

But I do think there are moral laws in the universe, call it God, call it Karma, that affect all people.

When a nation oppresses people like this, there are inevitable negative consequences to it. American Slavery led to the civil war, the Nazis’ evil resulted in the destruction of Germany in WWII, the evils of unrestricted capitalism led to the communist revolutions in Russia and elsewhere.

While on an individual level I don’t think anyone deserved to be harmed, I do believe there is a level of collective karma that nations have.

And I think the key to preventing more death in the conflict is to recognize that fact.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests

just look at the casualties on this. 200 on the Palestinian side, maybe one on the Israeli side.

The state of Israel cannot do things like this and then expect the Palestinians not to engage in terrorism.
 
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notAfanboy

notAfanboy

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NikaInParis said:
I'm at a loss over the current Life Analytics:
400+ Palestinian Civilians are equal to one Hamas officer
~10000 Palestinians have been killed so far in total, compared to ~1400 Israelis

So 1 Israeli life is worth 10 Palestinians, but only 0.04 of a Hamas officer?

Anyone with a PhD in Genocide that could help me here?
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- We have leaked Israeli documents revealing the ethnic cleansing plans. - The targeting of civilians is deliberate. They are not merely collateral damage. - US Senators have access to sophisticated intelligence. - There is a paper trail. - They will be held to account.



https://x.com/DanMKervick/status/1720655444320883041?s=20

They just want Palestinians to move out of Gaza.

There has been constant bombing on buildings near Al Shifa hospital. It is to induce fear and get them to move out ASAP.
 
ArturCantSpeakJapanese

ArturCantSpeakJapanese

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its not even terrorism. its fighting back. when one country only bombs hospitals, schools, foreign doctors and journalists, goes out of their way to target children and women, they don't get to be the civilized ones. hamas does more to restrict their aim to military targets than israel does. it seems obvious that israel are the terrorists and hamas are the ones fighting for civilization.

it would be very easy to take the moral stand and be the ones showing the world how to act right now. but they're just showing the world how savage and bloodthirsty they are instead, they're proud of killing children.
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lol netanyahu is talking about the genocide plans 20 years ago
 
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Jew D. Boy

Jew D. Boy

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All I care to contribute to this conversation is that, contrary to what some of my militantly conservative family members think, I know my grandparents who survived the Holocaust and lived long enough for me to hear firsthand the horrors they experienced would be perpetually spinning in their graves if they knew what Israel is doing to Palestine, and I believe there’s really no atoning for the compounding sins being committed by Israeli and American politicians alike:halt:
 
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