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Aah yes, the "big bad Muslim taking over the world" narrative.
Brought you by the official partners of ignorant people - "I heard XYZ" and "they're sTrIcTlY opPoSeD to Jews and Christians"
Don't let your missinformation stand in the way of discussing politics here: the ongoing Palestine genocide
Brought you by the official partners of ignorant people - "I heard XYZ" and "they're sTrIcTlY opPoSeD to Jews and Christians"
Don't let your missinformation stand in the way of discussing politics here: the ongoing Palestine genocide
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Regardless of the humanitarian crisis, if you cannot acknowledge the sheer depths of hatred Islamic individuals have for Jews and other religious people, then you're nothing but a bigot masquerading as a hero -- very much like the "freedom fighters" many of the "protestors" idolise.
There are many nihilists who hate their own country, traditions and values. They have been taught for decades that to have pride in their ancestors is a cardinal sin, that they are colonisers and racists and bigots, even if they do not hold such views. They are downtrodden, spoken over, and treated as aggressors whilst people decry their own supposed position from the rooftops, cheered on by many. Weakness has become a signifier of political power. The underdog position will grant you a podium, and the power to silence any dissent.
They raise the flag because nobody has the courage to oppose it in the fear of being called a bigot by the same people who actively hate and despise them.
This world is suffering from an identity crisis.
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There are many nihilists who hate their own country, traditions and values. They have been taught for decades that to have pride in their ancestors is a cardinal sin, that they are colonisers and racists and bigots, even if they do not hold such views. They are downtrodden, spoken over, and treated as aggressors whilst people decry their own supposed position from the rooftops, cheered on by many. Weakness has become a signifier of political power. The underdog position will grant you a podium, and the power to silence any dissent.
They raise the flag because nobody has the courage to oppose it in the fear of being called a bigot by the same people who actively hate and despise them.
This world is suffering from an identity crisis.
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No, I am speaking of ACTUAL things that are happening, Nika. Jewish missing persons photos are being torn down in London by Islamists. People have been shouted at, and jeered, and harassed by Islamic followers because they dared try to insinuate that Hamas was a terrorist organisation.
If you CANNOT see this, or more accurately, wilfully ignore the bad actors in your community, sect, or "tribe" then you are morally defunct and are standing on a foundation of lies and immorality.
This belongs here because it's intrinsically tied to the debate. You cannot obfuscate or deflect. I am not making a strawman. These are instances that are easily found online. You just wish to dismiss them because they are unfortunate truths that you do not wish to confront.
You are not justice.
You are not righteousness.
A person who actually cared would tackle all sides. They would call out bad actors in their communities and rally against the atrocities committed against them. You do part two, but part one? Silence.
If you CANNOT see this, or more accurately, wilfully ignore the bad actors in your community, sect, or "tribe" then you are morally defunct and are standing on a foundation of lies and immorality.
This belongs here because it's intrinsically tied to the debate. You cannot obfuscate or deflect. I am not making a strawman. These are instances that are easily found online. You just wish to dismiss them because they are unfortunate truths that you do not wish to confront.
You are not justice.
You are not righteousness.
A person who actually cared would tackle all sides. They would call out bad actors in their communities and rally against the atrocities committed against them. You do part two, but part one? Silence.
UN schools teach terrorism?
Non radical Muslims aren't calling out radicalists?
Dude, do you even exist in this world?
I don't know which one of your points is more unfounded.
I know you guys like targeting schools and hospitals, but to even include UN run schools into your propaganda is certainly a choice.
Just because the majority of the UN is calling you out does not mean they're evil, ya know. It's your government's actions that you should look at more closely
Non radical Muslims aren't calling out radicalists?
Dude, do you even exist in this world?
I don't know which one of your points is more unfounded.
I know you guys like targeting schools and hospitals, but to even include UN run schools into your propaganda is certainly a choice.
Just because the majority of the UN is calling you out does not mean they're evil, ya know. It's your government's actions that you should look at more closely
One of the posters at least specified islam and not muslims.
Always important to make this distinction
And just after i commended you making the distinction between the religion and its adherents. . .
Yes, hatred for jews and christians is ingrained in islamic scriptures, islamic individuals dont necessarily have this hatred though.
Always important to make this distinction
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And just after i commended you making the distinction between the religion and its adherents. . .
Yes, hatred for jews and christians is ingrained in islamic scriptures, islamic individuals dont necessarily have this hatred though.
Brave IDF lions take away a Hamas military vehicle and dispose of it in seconds
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzSs57NLbFF/?igshid=ZHN6bXF3N3Z6Y25j
It's wrong in any case, but people like that are afraid of informing themselves in good faith because it would burst their bubble
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzSs57NLbFF/?igshid=ZHN6bXF3N3Z6Y25j
It's wrong in any case, but people like that are afraid of informing themselves in good faith because it would burst their bubble
Eh, i wouldnt equate hatred from religious Motivation to hatred generally
Couple weeks ago i shared a video of a sheikh talking about when muslims will be powerful again they will enslave people, force jizya, or kill them if necessary.
So this is definitely a thing, and the non-radical muslims pretending its not a thing doesnt help, sure.
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Couple weeks ago i shared a video of a sheikh talking about when muslims will be powerful again they will enslave people, force jizya, or kill them if necessary.
So this is definitely a thing, and the non-radical muslims pretending its not a thing doesnt help, sure.
I make a distinction between Muslims and Islam as a faith -- hence the term Islamic Individuals, or, I guess better put, strict adherents to Islam. Muslims are not the problem, it's the ideology of Islam. If someone follows it so zealously to the point of extreme behaviour, then they're Islamist.
I don't think I explained myself very well in that instance.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to keep the terminology consistent, so, in good faith, allow me to explain.
There are individuals who are culturally Muslim, much like those who are culturally Christian. They are beloved members of the communities they are in, who separate the interest of the faith from some of the good of the faith. They take the good, cherish it, and use it to enrich people's lives and their own.
When I say "Islamist" I mean a strict adherent to Islam the ideology. Islam is dangerous to the west since it's antithetical to their values and customs. When I speak of the danger of these people, I mean the ideology they hold, not the people themselves. There are white Islamists. There are Arab Christians. The issue is not the race/ethnic minority. It is not the colour of their skin.
It is the ideology they follow that allows them to feel entitled to behave in a manner that violates the laws and customs of the lands they now inhabit.
I endeavour to always separate Islam from Muslim individuals. It is difficult, as the two are tightly interwoven. Should I stray in terminology, that is my bad, but these are my wholehearted opinions on the matter.
I don't think I explained myself very well in that instance.
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Unfortunately, it is difficult to keep the terminology consistent, so, in good faith, allow me to explain.
There are individuals who are culturally Muslim, much like those who are culturally Christian. They are beloved members of the communities they are in, who separate the interest of the faith from some of the good of the faith. They take the good, cherish it, and use it to enrich people's lives and their own.
When I say "Islamist" I mean a strict adherent to Islam the ideology. Islam is dangerous to the west since it's antithetical to their values and customs. When I speak of the danger of these people, I mean the ideology they hold, not the people themselves. There are white Islamists. There are Arab Christians. The issue is not the race/ethnic minority. It is not the colour of their skin.
It is the ideology they follow that allows them to feel entitled to behave in a manner that violates the laws and customs of the lands they now inhabit.
I endeavour to always separate Islam from Muslim individuals. It is difficult, as the two are tightly interwoven. Should I stray in terminology, that is my bad, but these are my wholehearted opinions on the matter.
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