Powers & Abilities The actual ultimate thread on swordsmanship - Part 1
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If Shanks is not a swordsman, Zoro is not a swordsman as well
But then... if Zoro is not a swordsman, why does he dreams to become the strongest of them?
If Shanks is not a swordsman, why does Oda use him of alll people as a term of comparison to explain why Mihawk is the World's Strongest Swordsman?
Would it make any sense for Oda to say that Zoro has better abilities than, say, Kid or Sabo, and thus is the World's Strongest Swordsman? Obviously no
So
It's really easy to understand that in Oda's mind Shanks is a swordsman
And in fact...
But then... if Zoro is not a swordsman, why does he dreams to become the strongest of them?
If Shanks is not a swordsman, why does Oda use him of alll people as a term of comparison to explain why Mihawk is the World's Strongest Swordsman?
Would it make any sense for Oda to say that Zoro has better abilities than, say, Kid or Sabo, and thus is the World's Strongest Swordsman? Obviously no
So
It's really easy to understand that in Oda's mind Shanks is a swordsman
And in fact...
I mean he is more often shown using cutting feats like Kraig's ship or the ice in Marineford. Hakimen like Shanks usually have a different kind of feats.
Anime is still non-canon, not sure why everyone is acting like it matters lately. Whitebeard talked abiut their sword duels but the feat shown there was still haki. I'm not saying they're not amazing swordsmen, just their main strenght lies elsewhere.
Anime is still non-canon, not sure why everyone is acting like it matters lately. Whitebeard talked abiut their sword duels but the feat shown there was still haki. I'm not saying they're not amazing swordsmen, just their main strenght lies elsewhere.
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Ok, i take the L here, yet i didn't Said that Shanks isn't Swordsman.
Is said and showed to us is Shanks Monstrous Haki and Only one time was Said about Shanks Swordsmanship.
So in mangas panela, Swordsmanships=Mihawk>Shanks.
Haki=Shanks>Mihawk, that's why They Said They're equals or rival, is like WB and Roger, one is the strongest Man in the world and the other is PK.
Yet who are stronger? Aren't They are Rival?
Is said and showed to us is Shanks Monstrous Haki and Only one time was Said about Shanks Swordsmanship.
So in mangas panela, Swordsmanships=Mihawk>Shanks.
Haki=Shanks>Mihawk, that's why They Said They're equals or rival, is like WB and Roger, one is the strongest Man in the world and the other is PK.
Yet who are stronger? Aren't They are Rival?
The manga states Mihawk is the WSS. Since Shanks is a swordsman that means Mihawk > Shanks. Why do you and some fans continue to overlook that part?
The manga has never stated Shanks haki is stronger. The manga has said anything about Mihawk's haki.
The manga has never stated Shanks haki is stronger. The manga has said anything about Mihawk's haki.
Not all Hakimen are Swordsmen (Garp).
Regardless Hakimen (including swordsmen) are the strongest characters in verse (Shanks neggs admiral fodder).
u dont need to be a swordsman to use swordsmanship lmao
oda has never differentiated df and normal swordsmen
its all agendas
literally all these " pure swordsman " use haki lmao
fuji : gravity blade
law :
shanks : roger literally saw his talent through his sword skills
and then later made shanks inherit his own sword style
shanks even had multiple duels with mihawk
he even went as far as using his sword while doing a simple haki blast
he is also very graceful with his sword
a sword without grace isnt a strong sword as mihawk said
shanks uses his sword for literally everything
he is also VERY honourable just like zoro
if this isnt oda showing him being a swordsman then idk what is
tho this thread is only abt swordsmanship , its not abt who we consider a swordsman or who we dont
i simply copied nik's tag list
and i also have no interest in adding a brain rot like him
mihawk has barely even shown anything lol
and even in simple terms , we have seen both the parties display strong sword slashes , which is a sword skill
a strong swordsman is hyped up by his sword skills and haki
and shanks's swordsmanship is pretty renowned in the onepiece verse considering the world government used his sword skills to hype up mihawk
its saying his swordsmanship is only second to mihawk's
and with haki , we have a lot of examples of zoro's haki being hyped
like i said , swordsmanship and haki go toe to toe with each other
anything done through a sword is swordsmanship as i have alrdy said above
law uses his spatial hax through his sword
but its still swordsmanship
similar to law's knife - room
1. headcanon
2. shanks can use a metal pipe for all i care , but the fact is that he did it with his sword thus its swordsmanship
kaku can throw air slashes through his kicks , but when he does the same with his sword
its still called swordsmanship
its not like just cause he can do the same without swords , it cant be considered swordsmanship
oda has never differentiated df and normal swordsmen
its all agendas
literally all these " pure swordsman " use haki lmao
fuji : gravity blade
law :
shanks : roger literally saw his talent through his sword skills
and then later made shanks inherit his own sword style
shanks even had multiple duels with mihawk
he even went as far as using his sword while doing a simple haki blast
he is also very graceful with his sword
a sword without grace isnt a strong sword as mihawk said
shanks uses his sword for literally everything
he is also VERY honourable just like zoro
if this isnt oda showing him being a swordsman then idk what is
tho this thread is only abt swordsmanship , its not abt who we consider a swordsman or who we dont
i simply copied nik's tag list
and i also have no interest in adding a brain rot like him
mihawk has barely even shown anything lol
and even in simple terms , we have seen both the parties display strong sword slashes , which is a sword skill
a strong swordsman is hyped up by his sword skills and haki
and shanks's swordsmanship is pretty renowned in the onepiece verse considering the world government used his sword skills to hype up mihawk
its saying his swordsmanship is only second to mihawk's
and with haki , we have a lot of examples of zoro's haki being hyped
anything done through a sword is swordsmanship as i have alrdy said above
law uses his spatial hax through his sword
but its still swordsmanship
similar to law's knife - room
1. headcanon
2. shanks can use a metal pipe for all i care , but the fact is that he did it with his sword thus its swordsmanship
kaku can throw air slashes through his kicks , but when he does the same with his sword
its still called swordsmanship
its not like just cause he can do the same without swords , it cant be considered swordsmanship
The manga states Mihawk is the WSS. Since Shanks is a swordsman that means Mihawk > Shanks. Why do you and some fans continue to overlook that part?
The manga has never stated Shanks haki is stronger. The manga hasn't said anything about the strength of Mihawk's haki.
The manga has never stated Shanks haki is stronger. The manga hasn't said anything about the strength of Mihawk's haki.
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u dont need to be a swordsman to use swordsmanship lmao
oda has never differentiated df and normal swordsmen
its all agendas
literally all these " pure swordsman " use haki lmao
fuji : gravity blade
law :
shanks : roger literally saw his talent through his sword skills
and then later made shanks inherit his own sword style
shanks even had multiple duels with mihawk
he even went as far as using his sword while doing a simple haki blast
he is also very graceful with his sword
a sword without grace isnt a strong sword as mihawk said
shanks uses his sword for literally everything
he is also VERY honourable just like zoro
if this isnt oda showing him being a swordsman then idk what is
tho this thread is only abt swordsmanship , its not abt who we consider a swordsman or who we dont
i simply copied nik's tag list
and i also have no interest in adding a brain rot like him
mihawk has barely even shown anything lol
and even in simple terms , we have seen both the parties display strong sword slashes , which is a sword skill
a strong swordsman is hyped up by his sword skills and haki
and shanks's swordsmanship is pretty renowned in the onepiece verse considering the world government used his sword skills to hype up mihawk
its saying his swordsmanship is only second to mihawk's
and with haki , we have a lot of examples of zoro's haki being hyped
like i said , swordsmanship and haki go toe to toe with each other
anything done through a sword is swordsmanship as i have alrdy said above
law uses his spatial hax through his sword
but its still swordsmanship
similar to law's knife - room
1. headcanon
2. shanks can use a metal pipe for all i care , but the fact is that he did it with his sword thus its swordsmanship
kaku can throw air slashes through his kicks , but when he does the same with his sword
its still called swordsmanship
its not like just cause he can do the same without swords , it cant be considered swordsmanship
oda has never differentiated df and normal swordsmen
its all agendas
literally all these " pure swordsman " use haki lmao
fuji : gravity blade
law :
shanks : roger literally saw his talent through his sword skills
and then later made shanks inherit his own sword style
shanks even had multiple duels with mihawk
he even went as far as using his sword while doing a simple haki blast
he is also very graceful with his sword
a sword without grace isnt a strong sword as mihawk said
shanks uses his sword for literally everything
he is also VERY honourable just like zoro
if this isnt oda showing him being a swordsman then idk what is
tho this thread is only abt swordsmanship , its not abt who we consider a swordsman or who we dont
i simply copied nik's tag list
and i also have no interest in adding a brain rot like him
mihawk has barely even shown anything lol
and even in simple terms , we have seen both the parties display strong sword slashes , which is a sword skill
a strong swordsman is hyped up by his sword skills and haki
and shanks's swordsmanship is pretty renowned in the onepiece verse considering the world government used his sword skills to hype up mihawk
its saying his swordsmanship is only second to mihawk's
and with haki , we have a lot of examples of zoro's haki being hyped
anything done through a sword is swordsmanship as i have alrdy said above
law uses his spatial hax through his sword
but its still swordsmanship
similar to law's knife - room
1. headcanon
2. shanks can use a metal pipe for all i care , but the fact is that he did it with his sword thus its swordsmanship
kaku can throw air slashes through his kicks , but when he does the same with his sword
its still called swordsmanship
its not like just cause he can do the same without swords , it cant be considered swordsmanship
read the explanation from zoro master...there are swordsman that are able to NOT CUT ANYTHING these swordsman also have the ability to CUT THROUGH STEEL.
Now read what the old man taught luffy about ryou to which he also included how swordsmen use ryou
The intent of the swordsman matters. When choosing what to cut and what not to cut.
Now go look at shanks vs kidd what does shanks do???
1.Uses ryou and cuts through kidds steel weapon
2.Chooses to not cut/scar/cleave kidd in half no visible damage is shown to kidd
Complaining about agenda driven posters.
Includes Big Mom.
Swordsmenship is performed by *drumroll* swordsmen.
Swordsmen are characters who use their swords (or another blade) exclusively, except for when they do not have it or using a sword is otherwise not possible.
Mihawk has good enough haki to block bullets with his arms. He used Yoru for it.
Shanks uses his sword everytime for attacks or blocks. He is a swordsman.
Law and Brook could use their Devil Fruits entirely without their sword. They mostly use their sword for it.
Some of Laws attacks can not be performed with a sword. Same goes for Brook. These occasions do not invalidate their swordsmen status.
King was heavily using a sword in the fight vs Zoro, yet he always switched between styles. He is not a swordsman (I mean duh, he even says so).
Admirals other than Fuji only occasionally summon/use a blade. They are not swordsmen.
Big Mom uses her DF without a sword most of the time. She is not a swordsman.
Whitebeard, Kaido, Apoo, XDrake... all of them posses and use weapons, but they are not tonfamen or axemen or kanabomen or swordsmen. The style needs to be the defining part of the character, otherwise they do not fit the bill.
Mihawk haters are hellbent on excluding everyone from the swordsmen group.
Mihawk swords swallowers are hellbent on including everyone into the swordsmen group.
Both groups suck ass and have no clue.
Includes Big Mom.
Swordsmenship is performed by *drumroll* swordsmen.
Swordsmen are characters who use their swords (or another blade) exclusively, except for when they do not have it or using a sword is otherwise not possible.
Mihawk has good enough haki to block bullets with his arms. He used Yoru for it.
Shanks uses his sword everytime for attacks or blocks. He is a swordsman.
Law and Brook could use their Devil Fruits entirely without their sword. They mostly use their sword for it.
Some of Laws attacks can not be performed with a sword. Same goes for Brook. These occasions do not invalidate their swordsmen status.
King was heavily using a sword in the fight vs Zoro, yet he always switched between styles. He is not a swordsman (I mean duh, he even says so).
Admirals other than Fuji only occasionally summon/use a blade. They are not swordsmen.
Big Mom uses her DF without a sword most of the time. She is not a swordsman.
Whitebeard, Kaido, Apoo, XDrake... all of them posses and use weapons, but they are not tonfamen or axemen or kanabomen or swordsmen. The style needs to be the defining part of the character, otherwise they do not fit the bill.
Mihawk haters are hellbent on excluding everyone from the swordsmen group.
Mihawk swords swallowers are hellbent on including everyone into the swordsmen group.
Both groups suck ass and have no clue.
read the explanation from zoro master...there are swordsman that are able to NOT CUT ANYTHING these swordsman also have the ability to CUT THROUGH STEEL.
Now read what the old man taught luffy about ryou to which he also included how swordsmen use ryou
The intent of the swordsman matters. When choosing what to cut and what not to cut.
Now go look at shanks vs kidd what does shanks do???
1.Uses ryou and cuts through kidds steel weapon
2.Chooses to not cut/scar/cleave kidd in half no visible damage is shown to kidd
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That's true.
The Swordsmans are guys from that poster from VC, yet some of them has other DF or some extern Powers to utilize and not Goes to pure Swordsmans types.