Another point where islam treats women unfairly. Men can have 4 wives (+maybe sex slaves) but women cant have 4 husbands
It is to prevent a bigger social issue; single mothers, whores, onlyfans, etc.

However, if you dont consider women selling their bodies for money as "bad", then you will say such stuff.

It is encouraged for men to marry divorced and widows. But you wont talk about that, will you?
 
It is to prevent a bigger social issue; single mothers, whores, onlyfans, etc.

However, if you dont consider women selling their bodies for money as "bad", then you will say such stuff.

It is encouraged for men to marry divorced and widows. But you wont talk about that, will you?
A man who is having sex with more than one woman is effectively as bad.

I do consider women selling their bodies as bad. But the solution isn't to fucking entrap them in marriage to a man who has complete ownership of her. I prefer the one man and one woman, husband and wife solution. The dissolution of this system is what has helped cause these societal ills.
 
That's a generalization.
Even after I said women have rights and they can ask what they want.

Polygamy is not really a common practice, only the rich ones do it.
According to a credible source, PewResearch:
Many of the countries that permit polygamy have Muslim majorities, and the practice is rare in many of them. Fewer than 1% of Muslim men live with more than one spouse in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran and Egypt – all countries where the practice is legal at least for Muslims.

And this is the first thing that comes to your mind when you think about Islam? You are ignoring 99%+ Muslims population and drawing conclusions from <1% of men who have more than 1 wife.

@Zenos7
 
It's not just that though. It's not about how they're treated. These women must compete with the other wives, not just for their own sake -- but for their children's -- as their ability to earn is nowhere near that of a man's.
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However, if you dont consider women selling their bodies for money as "bad", then you will say such stuff.
Strawman much again, yawn
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A man who is having sex with more than one woman is effectively as bad.

I do consider women selling their bodies as bad. But the solution isn't to fucking entrap them in marriage to a man who has complete ownership of her. I prefer the one man and one woman, husband and wife solution. The dissolution of this system is what has helped cause these societal ills.
Doesnt work with the ratio of women to men either
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Polygamy is not really a common practice, only the rich ones do it.
According to a credible source, PewResearch:
Many of the countries that permit polygamy have Muslim majorities, and the practice is rare in many of them. Fewer than 1% of Muslim men live with more than one spouse in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran and Egypt – all countries where the practice is legal at least for Muslims.

And this is the first thing that comes to your mind when you think about Islam? You are ignoring 99%+ Muslims population and drawing conclusions from <1% of men who have more than 1 wife.

@Zenos7
Seriously, make a distinction between the religion and its adherents lmao.

Majority of muslims not doing it doesnt mean it isnt a thing in the religion.
 
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Strawman much again, yawn
I dont really care Zenos.

You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.

And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.

You have no horse in this race.
You are comparing modern day culture to religions.
Our culture is shaped by religion, your culture is shaped by so called liberty and doing whatever you want (of course, the morals come into play here, which makes things complicated and I dont want to be a moral police).

Next time you talk about religion, also mention that you support women *because you are fine with them selling their bodies*.
 
I dont really care Zenos.

You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.

And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.

You have no horse in this race.
You are comparing modern day culture to religions.
Our culture is shaped by religion, your culture is shaped by so called liberty and doing whatever you want (of course, the morals come into play here, which makes things complicated and I dont want to be a moral police).

Next time you talk about religion, also mention that you support women *because you are fine with them selling their bodies*.
You dont care about logic or misrepresenting my views?

Color me surprised
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And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.
And I adressed it lul
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You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.
Said nothing of the sort. Just antilogical drivel from you.
 
You dont care about logic or misrepresenting my views?

Color me surprised
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And I adressed it lul
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Said nothing of the sort. Just antilogical drivel from you.
Logic?
You are the last person on Earth who would be logical. You are just here to spam.

You dont even know what you are blabbering about.

Like I said, you dont have a horse in this race.
You are just here to repeat the most obvious, misinterpreted stuff that you have heard from whatever your sources are.

You reject Islam's views about women, you dont agree with what Western women define as freedom.
Or intentionally run away from this because you know you will be proven wrong based on statistics.


For once, in your 10000 of messages, say it clearly, where you stand.

Bring 1 point to our discussion and I will expose you, FRAUD.
 
how is she going to get pregnant from 4 different husbands?
She isnt, at least not at the same time. But thats not the point
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Logic?
You are the last person on Earth who would be logical. You are just here to spam.

You dont even know what you are blabbering about.

Like I said, you dont have a horse in this race.
You are just here to repeat the most obvious, misinterpreted stuff that you have heard from whatever your sources are.

You reject Islam's views about women, you dont agree with what Western women define as freedom.
Or intentionally run away from this because you know you will be proven wrong based on statistics.


For once, in your 10000 of messages, say it clearly, where you stand.

Bring 1 point to our discussion and I will expose you, FRAUD.
Bro you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views, strawmanning me, and then saying you dont care.

Pretty clear who the fraud in this conversation is. I brought up a couple points already. The point about iddah with prebubescent girls, death sentence for apostates.

Either is enough for me to despise islam
 
She isnt, at least not at the same time. But thats not the point
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Bro you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views, strawmanning me, and then saying you dont care.

Pretty clear who the fraud in this conversation is. I brought up a couple points already. The point about iddah with prebubescent girls, death sentence for apostates.

Either is enough for me to despise islam
I doubt 4 different dudes would be cool with sharing the same women.This stuff isn't the same for men and women.
 
I honestly do not believe Islam's solution to the societal ills effecting women is the right one. I do believe most Western Societies are falling prey to decadence. Porn addiction, video game addiction, drug and alcohol addiction, and a disrespect for basic rights such as freedom of speech are the issue. We have a society that encourages Only Fans, it encourages "sexual liberation", and whilst I do not think the state should ever involve itself in people's personal acts, I cannot help but feel it will make a generation of women who are less secure in their bodies and position than any before it.
Remember when you ask me why I was considerating you far right ? You just gave us all the dog whitle here.

Leave women alone. They don't care about your opinion.


It is to prevent a bigger social issue; single mothers, whores, onlyfans, etc.
Wow same stuff, what the fuck is this comparison, can we let women alone ?


if you dont consider women selling their bodies for money as "bad"
Still, you call them "whores"


Debating religion with atheists = talking to a brick wall.
You'd have an easier chance drinking up the whole ocean
It depends on what you want to discuss. I'm an atheist and I can perfectly have discussion with religious people.
 
Remember when you ask me why I was considerating you far right ? You just gave us all the dog whitle here.

Leave women alone. They don't care about your opinion.
If wanting less softcore pornography in the world (which I think damages both men and women, both those paying and those prostituting their image) is far-right, then call me that, I don't care. It's wrong. Not because it's women, but because rampant sexuality is not liberating, it only serves to dehumanise and objectify women and men.

I don't think you can speak for all women either, Logiko. I know plenty who actually agree with my opinions. A closer to home one is my very own wife -- who is more extreme than I on this point as she feels women are spelling their own demise by giving out their bodies too early, her words, not mine.
 
If wanting less softcore pornography in the world (which I think damages both men and women, both those paying and those prostituting their image) is far-right, then call me that, I don't care. It's wrong. Not because it's women, but because rampant sexuality is not liberating, it only serves to dehumanise and objectify women and men.
Up marketing agency use our primal instincts to make us buy shit.This should be illegal.Even fucking youtube is recommeding soft porn in ads these days.
 
Still, you call them "whores"
Why would I call them whores if they dont sell their bodies?

Try removing this word from human history first before coming at me.

Wow same stuff, what the fuck is this comparison, can we let women alone ?
I am not the one who is calling out Western culture.

They talk about polygamy when this practice is done by only fewer than 1% of Muslims (PewResearch).
 
Up marketing agency use our primal instincts to make us buy shit.This should be illegal.Even fucking youtube is recommeding soft porn in ads these days.
Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.

My boss is a muslim woman. She has said the same things. My wife says the same things. Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.

But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?
 
Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.

My boss is a muslim woman. She has said the same things. My wife says the same things. Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.

But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?
"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.
 
They talk about polygamy when this practice is done by only fewer than 1% of Muslims (PewResearch).
To be honest, I actually think we're getting close to this in the West. The advent of dating apps has allowed the 1% of men who have it all to have free reign in the sexual market, so to speak. The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.

This is a deeply predatory practice, not just by the men, but the dating apps too. Hookup culture has only furthered this ill.

I've seen way too many videos of 40 year old women bemoaning their singleness and childlessness. I've seen women in their 20s with their self-esteem torn apart by being used by men like objects. The issue is, they do not hold themselves at all accountable, despite helping propagate this system.

"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.
Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness. Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot. If anything it just commodifies human relationships and shatters the previous relationship paradigm.
 
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