To be honest, I actually think we're getting close to this in the West. The advent of dating apps has allowed the 1% of men who have it all to have free reign in the sexual market, so to speak. The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.

This is a deeply predatory practice, not just by the men, but the dating apps too. Hookup culture has only furthered this ill.

I've seen way too many videos of 40 year old women bemoaning their singleness and childlessness. I've seen women in their 20s with their self-esteem torn apart by being used by men like objects. The issue is, they do not hold themselves at all accountable, despite helping propagate this system.



Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness. Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot. If anything it just commodifies human relationships and shatters the previous relationship paradigm.
Relationships have been fucked up in a levels imaginable.People fantasize unreal stuff thnx to porn and tv shows.Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college are competing with the church and families.
 
Relationships have been fucked up in a level imaginable.People fantasize unreal stuff thnx to porn and tv shows.Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college is competing with the church and families.
Indeed. It's why I thank god for my fortune. I have a wonderful wife who I have a mutually loving, trusting intimacy with.
 
Why ?
Can you give me a logical explanation why doing porn or having an onlyfan is wrong ?


but because rampant sexuality is not liberating
On what basis do you state that assuming our sexuality is not liberating ?


I know plenty who actually agree with my opinions.
Yes, conservative women. Not true feminist ones.

giving out their bodies too early
WTF does that mean ? Women don't give their body.


Why would I call them whores if they dont sell their bodies?
Your words, not mines.


Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.
You are right, conservative, far right, terf and prolife women exist. :lawsigh:


Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.
Then they are not leftist lmao

Liberals at best. Confused at worse.


But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?
Internalized patriarchy to be more exact.**

"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.
Sure, Scientist must be wrong too then. Or do you pick up what type of scientists you are actually believing in like complotists ?


The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.
You take the problem to the wrong side here. Making it women responsible of their own demise when in reality:

Women seeks GOOD men, and that MOST OF THE TIME, those good men start showing their true nature during the relationship:

I shared a video about this last week:


Hence, Women are NOT responsible of being abused, MEN are. :)


Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness.
It has is the circle I follow. Women are actually quite happy about being sexually liberated.


Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot.
And you are a mysoginist and a transphobe

I Guess we are not what we think we are at the end :kayneshrug:

Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.
I don't know where you a living but this must be quite the toxic environment..


Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college are competing with the church and families.
Oh .. your Bob is growing.
 
Men can have 4 wives (+maybe sex slaves) but women cant have 4 husbands
Btw, do you want your kid to have 4 fathers?
Or, perhaps, you want to open up about having 4 fathers? And seeking validation?

Surely, you dont have issues with 4 husbands.
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you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views
You dont have any views, clown.
I have been asking you to take a clear stance on discussed issues. You dont say where you stand.

Either is enough for me to despise islam
Not even hiding your Islamophobia now. What a clown.
 
Btw, do you want your kid to have 4 fathers?
Or, perhaps, you want to open up about having 4 fathers? And seeking validation?

Surely, you dont have issues with 4 husbands.
"Would you marry a woman who already has three husbands?"
"Fuck no!"
Lmao okay then.

Of all the societies throughout time where men were given some kind of a pass on adhering to basic biology, and people swear this one just has a shitload of women subjugated by one dude. Like we're all just broke versions of Elon Musk or Nick Cannon.
 
Logiko, as I think you are someone who genuinely believes what you say, I'll show you at least a modicum of respect and respond to each point in turn. However, I do not expect you to genuinely listen to the opinions of other people:

Why ?
Can you give me a logical explanation why doing porn or having an onlyfan is wrong ?
To begin, It is suggested, and I'll try and find the study for this later, that your levels of Oxytocin that is responsible for love, is dampened by overly-stimulation. This means having a portfolio of sexual encounters can damage your ability to form intimate connections with people.

On a moral level, I think pornography and OnlyFans objectifies both men and women. Those involved in producing it and those who consume it. Porn is predatory.

On what basis do you state that assuming our sexuality is not liberating ?
Sex can be liberating, but under proper conditions. Such as when in a loving pair of two people. And yes, this can be same-sex or opposite sex.

Yes, conservative women. Not true feminist ones.
This is dehumanising towards conservative women. It is also the whole "no-true Scotsman" narrative.

WTF does that mean ? Women don't give their body.
Freely allowing access to your body is bad for human relationships. What I mean is -- giving sex too soon creates hookup culture, which is damaging for the family unit and sexual health of all involved.

You are right, conservative, far right, terf and prolife women exist. :lawsigh:
You're denouncing all that will disagree with you as morally wrong. This is the incorrect way to argue, especially for someone called Logiko.

Then they are not leftist lmao

Liberals at best. Confused at worse.
No true scotsman and ideological puritanism.

Internalized patriarchy to be more exact.**
Men respecting women and vice-versa is healthy. It is not patriarchy to accept that the sexes are different. EQUAL but different.

You take the problem to the wrong side here. Making it women responsible of their own demise when in reality:

Women seeks GOOD men, and that MOST OF THE TIME, those good men start showing their true nature during the relationship:

I shared a video about this last week:


Hence, Women are NOT responsible of being abused, MEN are. :)
This is simply playing victim politics. You're demonizing men. You're treating them like predators.
They are not. Enough of the self hatred.

It has is the circle I follow. Women are actually quite happy about being sexually liberated.
This is the danger of self-identification and diagnosis. I know many who have thought they were happy and then years later regretted their decisions. If people are happy, so be it, but to ignore there are clearly women and men slipping through the cracks is... ludicrous.

And you are a mysoginist and a transphobe

I Guess we are not what we think we are at the end :kayneshrug:
More pointless labels. Honestly, Logiko, I go through lengths to not label you despite your insistence of giving people ample chances to do so. I am neither of the above, but I might be in your school of thought which is rooted in denial of reality in favour of how it "should" be.
 
And this doesn't tell you what it tells the rest of us?

My point was also to talk to someone in the role. We never have to know if you actually do or not, just do it for yourself. Go out, talk to an actual Muslim woman and others instead of being the king in your empty castle.
Not sure how often i need to repeat myself: im.making a distinction between the religion and its adherents.

Ive talked to plemty muslims i know irl about this kinda stuff, but thanks for your concerns
 
Why ?
Can you give me a logical explanation why doing porn or having an onlyfan is wrong ?



On what basis do you state that assuming our sexuality is not liberating ?



Yes, conservative women. Not true feminist ones.


WTF does that mean ? Women don't give their body.



Your words, not mines.



You are right, conservative, far right, terf and prolife women exist. :lawsigh:



Then they are not leftist lmao

Liberals at best. Confused at worse.



Internalized patriarchy to be more exact.**


Sure, Scientist must be wrong too then. Or do you pick up what type of scientists you are actually believing in like complotists ?



You take the problem to the wrong side here. Making it women responsible of their own demise when in reality:

Women seeks GOOD men, and that MOST OF THE TIME, those good men start showing their true nature during the relationship:

I shared a video about this last week:


Hence, Women are NOT responsible of being abused, MEN are. :)


It has is the circle I follow. Women are actually quite happy about being sexually liberated.



And you are a mysoginist and a transphobe

I Guess we are not what we think we are at the end :kayneshrug:


I don't know where you a living but this must be quite the toxic environment..



Oh .. your Bob is growing.
i'm not reading all this BS.Bye,
 
You dont have any views, clown.
I have been asking you to take a clear stance on discussed issues. You dont say where you stand.
I actually did specify equality before the law regarding this, and then you went on a tangent with how im fine with women doing only fans lmfao.

All you can do is strawman and jump to conclusions
 
Not sure how often i need to repeat myself: im.making a distinction between the religion and its adherents.

Ive talked to plemty muslims i know irl about this kinda stuff, but thanks for your concerns
The adherents aren't adhering to what you're saying lol. It's hard to believe your points are more successful at convincing others of their own faith given how this is going, y'know?
 
More antilogical drivel
How is it antilogical motherfucker? You, yourself, said that why men are allowed to have 4 wives, and women cant have 4 husbands?

Are you saying your arguments are antilogical?
This is what I would expect from a clown like you.
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I actually did specify equality before the law regarding this, and then you went on a tangent with how im fine with women doing only fans lmfao.

All you can do is strawman and jump to conclusions
What equality?

Explain clown. Dont give ambiguous one liner statements.

Lets discuss equality. Share your one point agenda.
 
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