Controversial General Political Discussion

[notAfanboy]

Strawman much again, yawn

I dont really care Zenos.

You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.

And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.

You have no horse in this race.
You are comparing modern day culture to religions.
Our culture is shaped by religion, your culture is shaped by so called liberty and doing whatever you want (of course, the morals come into play here, which makes things complicated and I dont want to be a moral police).

Next time you talk about religion, also mention that you support women *because you are fine with them selling their bodies*.

 

[Zenos7]

I dont really care Zenos.

You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.

And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.

You have no horse in this race.
You are comparing modern day culture to religions.
Our culture is shaped by religion, your culture is shaped by so called liberty and doing whatever you want (of course, the morals come into play here, which makes things complicated and I dont want to be a moral police).

Next time you talk about religion, also mention that you support women *because you are fine with them selling their bodies*.

You dont care about logic or misrepresenting my views?

Color me surprised

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And, you are a hypocrite.
I shared that polygamy is practiced only <1% in Muslims.

Keep on drawing conclusions based on your headcanons.

And I adressed it lul

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You do you.
If you like Western women to be modern day sex slaves, selling their bodies, and being onlyfans models, then fine.

Said nothing of the sort. Just antilogical drivel from you.

 

[NAMELESS]

Another point where islam treats women unfairly. Men can have 4 wives (+maybe sex slaves) but women cant have 4 husbands

how is she going to get pregnant from 4 different husbands?

 

[notAfanboy]

You dont care about logic or misrepresenting my views?

Color me surprised

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And I adressed it lul

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Said nothing of the sort. Just antilogical drivel from you.

Logic?
You are the last person on Earth who would be logical. You are just here to spam.

You dont even know what you are blabbering about.

Like I said, you dont have a horse in this race.
You are just here to repeat the most obvious, misinterpreted stuff that you have heard from whatever your sources are.

You reject Islam's views about women, you dont agree with what Western women define as freedom.
Or intentionally run away from this because you know you will be proven wrong based on statistics.


For once, in your 10000 of messages, say it clearly, where you stand.

Bring 1 point to our discussion and I will expose you, FRAUD.

 

[Zenos7]

how is she going to get pregnant from 4 different husbands?

She isnt, at least not at the same time. But thats not the point

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Logic?
You are the last person on Earth who would be logical. You are just here to spam.

You dont even know what you are blabbering about.

Like I said, you dont have a horse in this race.
You are just here to repeat the most obvious, misinterpreted stuff that you have heard from whatever your sources are.

You reject Islam's views about women, you dont agree with what Western women define as freedom.
Or intentionally run away from this because you know you will be proven wrong based on statistics.


For once, in your 10000 of messages, say it clearly, where you stand.

Bring 1 point to our discussion and I will expose you, FRAUD.

Bro you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views, strawmanning me, and then saying you dont care.

Pretty clear who the fraud in this conversation is. I brought up a couple points already. The point about iddah with prebubescent girls, death sentence for apostates.

Either is enough for me to despise islam

 

[NAMELESS]

She isnt, at least not at the same time. But thats not the point

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Bro you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views, strawmanning me, and then saying you dont care.

Pretty clear who the fraud in this conversation is. I brought up a couple points already. The point about iddah with prebubescent girls, death sentence for apostates.

Either is enough for me to despise islam

I doubt 4 different dudes would be cool with sharing the same women.This stuff isn't the same for men and women.

 

[Logiko]

I honestly do not believe Islam's solution to the societal ills effecting women is the right one. I do believe most Western Societies are falling prey to decadence. Porn addiction, video game addiction, drug and alcohol addiction, and a disrespect for basic rights such as freedom of speech are the issue. We have a society that encourages Only Fans, it encourages "sexual liberation", and whilst I do not think the state should ever involve itself in people's personal acts, I cannot help but feel it will make a generation of women who are less secure in their bodies and position than any before it.

Remember when you ask me why I was considerating you far right ? You just gave us all the dog whitle here.

Leave women alone. They don't care about your opinion.

It is to prevent a bigger social issue; single mothers, whores, onlyfans, etc.

Wow same stuff, what the fuck is this comparison, can we let women alone ?

if you dont consider women selling their bodies for money as "bad"

Still, you call them "whores"

Debating religion with atheists = talking to a brick wall.
You'd have an easier chance drinking up the whole ocean

It depends on what you want to discuss. I'm an atheist and I can perfectly have discussion with religious people.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Ive played this game for over 10 years now.

And this doesn't tell you what it tells the rest of us?

My point was also to talk to someone in the role. We never have to know if you actually do or not, just do it for yourself. Go out, talk to an actual Muslim woman and others instead of being the king in your empty castle.

 

[Okamakama]

Remember when you ask me why I was considerating you far right ? You just gave us all the dog whitle here.

Leave women alone. They don't care about your opinion.

If wanting less softcore pornography in the world (which I think damages both men and women, both those paying and those prostituting their image) is far-right, then call me that, I don't care. It's wrong. Not because it's women, but because rampant sexuality is not liberating, it only serves to dehumanise and objectify women and men.

I don't think you can speak for all women either, Logiko. I know plenty who actually agree with my opinions. A closer to home one is my very own wife -- who is more extreme than I on this point as she feels women are spelling their own demise by giving out their bodies too early, her words, not mine.

 

[NAMELESS]

If wanting less softcore pornography in the world (which I think damages both men and women, both those paying and those prostituting their image) is far-right, then call me that, I don't care. It's wrong. Not because it's women, but because rampant sexuality is not liberating, it only serves to dehumanise and objectify women and men.

Up marketing agency use our primal instincts to make us buy shit.This should be illegal.Even fucking youtube is recommeding soft porn in ads these days.

 

[notAfanboy]

Still, you call them "whores"

Why would I call them whores if they dont sell their bodies?

Try removing this word from human history first before coming at me.

Wow same stuff, what the fuck is this comparison, can we let women alone ?

I am not the one who is calling out Western culture.

They talk about polygamy when this practice is done by only fewer than 1% of Muslims (PewResearch).

 

[Okamakama]

Up marketing agency use our primal instincts to make us buy shit.This should be illegal.Even fucking youtube is recommeding soft porn in ads these days.

Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.

My boss is a muslim woman. She has said the same things. My wife says the same things. Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.

But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?

 

[NAMELESS]

Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.

My boss is a muslim woman. She has said the same things. My wife says the same things. Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.

But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?

"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.

 

[Okamakama]

They talk about polygamy when this practice is done by only fewer than 1% of Muslims (PewResearch).

To be honest, I actually think we're getting close to this in the West. The advent of dating apps has allowed the 1% of men who have it all to have free reign in the sexual market, so to speak. The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.

This is a deeply predatory practice, not just by the men, but the dating apps too. Hookup culture has only furthered this ill.

I've seen way too many videos of 40 year old women bemoaning their singleness and childlessness. I've seen women in their 20s with their self-esteem torn apart by being used by men like objects. The issue is, they do not hold themselves at all accountable, despite helping propagate this system.

"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.

Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness. Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot. If anything it just commodifies human relationships and shatters the previous relationship paradigm.

 

[NAMELESS]

To be honest, I actually think we're getting close to this in the West. The advent of dating apps has allowed the 1% of men who have it all to have free reign in the sexual market, so to speak. The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.

This is a deeply predatory practice, not just by the men, but the dating apps too. Hookup culture has only furthered this ill.

I've seen way too many videos of 40 year old women bemoaning their singleness and childlessness. I've seen women in their 20s with their self-esteem torn apart by being used by men like objects. The issue is, they do not hold themselves at all accountable, despite helping propagate this system.



Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness. Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot. If anything it just commodifies human relationships and shatters the previous relationship paradigm.

Relationships have been fucked up in a levels imaginable.People fantasize unreal stuff thnx to porn and tv shows.Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college are competing with the church and families.

 

[Okamakama]

Relationships have been fucked up in a level imaginable.People fantasize unreal stuff thnx to porn and tv shows.Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college is competing with the church and families.

Indeed. It's why I thank god for my fortune. I have a wonderful wife who I have a mutually loving, trusting intimacy with.

 

[Logiko]

It's wrong.

Why ?
Can you give me a logical explanation why doing porn or having an onlyfan is wrong ?

but because rampant sexuality is not liberating

On what basis do you state that assuming our sexuality is not liberating ?

I know plenty who actually agree with my opinions.

Yes, conservative women. Not true feminist ones.

giving out their bodies too early

WTF does that mean ? Women don't give their body.

Why would I call them whores if they dont sell their bodies?

Your words, not mines.

Who does Logiko think he is anyway? "They don't care about your opinion." As if women are some monolithic force with a hivemind who all believe in the same overly sexual mindset of the modern progressive left.

You are right, conservative, far right, terf and prolife women exist.

Heck, some leftist friends of mine even say it.

Then they are not leftist lmao

Liberals at best. Confused at worse.

But I guess in Logiko's mind those people are just suffering from internalised misogyny or some shit?

Internalized patriarchy to be more exact.**

"The patriarchy has been sexually repressing women for centuries and bla bla bla".Typical left wing mentality.

Sure, Scientist must be wrong too then. Or do you pick up what type of scientists you are actually believing in like complotists ?

The result of this is modern day women seeking out those men who treat them like shit and use them for what they want.

You take the problem to the wrong side here. Making it women responsible of their own demise when in reality:

Women seeks GOOD men, and that MOST OF THE TIME, those good men start showing their true nature during the relationship:

I shared a video about this last week:

Hence, Women are NOT responsible of being abused, MEN are. :)

Sexual liberation has not resulted in net-female happiness.

It has is the circle I follow. Women are actually quite happy about being sexually liberated.

Anyone who genuinely thinks that is a fucking idiot.

And you are a mysoginist and a transphobe

I Guess we are not what we think we are at the end

Women and men don't have clear papers anymore.

I don't know where you a living but this must be quite the toxic environment..

Divorce is a nightmare for man and schools/college are competing with the church and families.

Oh .. your Bob is growing.

 

[notAfanboy]

Men can have 4 wives (+maybe sex slaves) but women cant have 4 husbands

Btw, do you want your kid to have 4 fathers?
Or, perhaps, you want to open up about having 4 fathers? And seeking validation?

Surely, you dont have issues with 4 husbands.

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you are a clown deliberately misrepresenting my views

You dont have any views, clown.
I have been asking you to take a clear stance on discussed issues. You dont say where you stand.

Either is enough for me to despise islam

Not even hiding your Islamophobia now. What a clown.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Btw, do you want your kid to have 4 fathers?
Or, perhaps, you want to open up about having 4 fathers? And seeking validation?

Surely, you dont have issues with 4 husbands.

"Would you marry a woman who already has three husbands?"
"Fuck no!"
Lmao okay then.

Of all the societies throughout time where men were given some kind of a pass on adhering to basic biology, and people swear this one just has a shitload of women subjugated by one dude. Like we're all just broke versions of Elon Musk or Nick Cannon.

 

[Zenos7]

Wow same stuff, what the fuck is this comparison, can we let women alone ?

No we cant, they are deficient in mind kappa