Character Discussion Doffy the Celestial Dragon : Holy Knight or Higher ?

#29
Doffy's an inborn conqueror. He'd have absolutely ended up being Holy Knight
It depends whether he would get motivated to become one. He obviously is capable but would he opt for it?
Nah I don't think so. This assumes becoming a HK is about work and having COC.
COC is genetic, so likely all the celestial bloodlines have it. They're just too pampered to bother awakening their haki.
HKs are probably predetermined so that they actually train and grow up strong instead of becoming astronauts who pick their noses.
Kid Doffy seemed like he was getting pampered so probably not slotted for HK status. He got training regardless but probably ended up as a discount HK. He made his gains through the streets and got his hands on a basic Paramecia.
Meanwhile the HKs should have some of the best devil fruits, best coaches, best weapons, etc for their development.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#30
Kid Doffy seemed like he was getting pampered so probably not slotted for HK status. He got training regardless but probably ended up as a discount HK. He made his gains through the streets and got his hands on a basic Paramecia.
Meanwhile the HKs should have some of the best devil fruits, best coaches, best weapons, etc for their development.
We will see what they have though, and how many of the group does Oda give CoC/DF Awakening to.

So far, they just scream to be like Oden & the Scabbards 2.0 to me.
Garling is a clear standout like Oden was in Wano, while the rest seem to be irrelevant.
 
#31
Garling is a clear standout like Oden was in Wano, while the rest seem to be irrelevant.
Figarlands are obviously MVP but the rest have had what- 5 panels since JUST being introduced? Maybe wait to see at least 10 panels before you write them off.
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I get what you mean about the parallels though:

Oden: Swordsman, 37, and scarred 39-year old Kaido
Garling: Swordsman 37ish, scarred 36-year-old Whitebeard.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#32
Figarlands are obviously MVP but the rest have had what- 5 panels since JUST being introduced? Maybe wait to see at least 10 panels before you write them off.
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I get what you mean about the parallels though:

Oden: Swordsman, 37, and scarred 39-year old Kaido
Garling: Swordsman 37ish, scarred 36-year-old Whitebeard.
Not just that tbh.

Whenever Oda introduces huge groups, he takes the effort to distinguish the top dogs from the rest, we saw it happen with Kata & BMP, Oden & Scabbards and how Garling is repeatedly separated & hyped from the rest reminds me a lot of that.

Also the obvious parallels of how both Oden & Garling are the leaders of their groups.
 
#33
I think being a former CD is what made him strong and released his madness.

I think his best route is the current one, but right now he needs to go and seek more power if he wants to release his full potential.

As a CD he will just use slaves like Charls and ve weaker.

As he is right now, I have no doubts he could a Holy Knight.
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Doffy and Kuma were portrayed together as Warlords, meanwhile the Holy Knights were so scared shitless of half-dead Kuma that Papa Saka actually had to take a break from his paperwork to save the Holy Civilian Hunters from complete annihilation

I dont thinknit was because they were scared, they seem to he like the last layer in their defense. Admirals are still CD dogs, reason Akainu went, not a matter of power.
 
#34
I would say there’s 50-50 chance of him becoming a casual CD bum or an actual fighter just like his Pirate self. It depends on his circumstances, we don’t even know how CDs become Holy Knights like if there are born into it or choose to do it.

But if he were to become a fighter then he would definitely be Holy Knight-tier at least just based on his portrayal as a Superstar of Evil and Conqueror.
 
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#35
He's the perfect character to scale Holyknights and that's the level I expect them to be.
I mean look at him.
- Conqueror
- Awakened fruit.
- mastered all basic Form of haki.

Advanced application is the only thing which is stopping him from being a top tier.
 
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#36
Doffy is highly dependent on his devil fruit, we have no idea how he would perform being a strict hakiman without his string fruit.
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He's the perfect character to scale Holyknights and that's the level I expect them to be.
I mean look at him.
- Conqueror
- Awakened fruit.
- mastered all basic Form of haki.

Advanced application is the only thing which is stopping him from being a top tier.
Cracker has stronger armament than him.

Zero observation haki feats.

Unlocked conqueror haki as a kid and still hasnt been able to use it's advanced form.

Doflamingo is the most overrated character in the show alongside enel, two characters absolutely carried by their fruits.
 
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#37
He's the perfect character to scale Holyknights and that's the level I expect them to be.
I mean look at him.
- Conqueror
- Awakened fruit.
- mastered all basic Form of haki.

Advanced application is the only thing which is stopping him from being a top tier.

What advanced haki does Aokiji, Kizaru or any admiral have?
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Doffy is highly dependent on his devil fruit, we have no idea how he would perform being a strict hakiman without his string fruit.
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Cracker has stronger armament than him.

Zero observation haki feats.

Unlocked conqueror haki as a kid and still hasnt been able to use it's advanced form.

Doflamingo is the most overrated character in the show alongside enel, two characters absolutely carried by their fruits.

What feats of armament proves Cracker to be superior?

What CoO feat does Cracker have?

What advaced form is CoC? There isnt advanced form, just different applications.
 
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