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#83
If you think EOS Zoro will be as strong as big mom I'm sorry to tell you that's just not possible.
Its a requirement for zoro to actually be the strongest swordsman. You know, as that is his fucking dream.

Beyond ridiculous
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How the Saint Rat fanbase read the rooftop:suresure:
Lmfao.
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It will never happen. To answer your question, Oda is very deliberately avoiding making a clear statement, there is always an ounce of ambiguity thrown in.
Uhm not really any ambiguity
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Guess who else isn't a ''great'' pirate like Saint Shanks? ''greatest swordsman''. Saint Shanks is proven he can be great pirate, Mihawk is not proven he can be great pirate.

Mihawk has no ambition to be King or Emperor, he just wants to be Warlord, while Saint Shanks has much bigger ambitions, ambitions = haki.

Roger despite using a sword and being equal to WB (who Mihawk admitted inferiority), wasn't WGS.
Not sure why this is any relevant
Both are swordsman
One is the strongest swordsman

And your point about pirates and rules is void because mihawk is a pirate.

Have fun with your mental gymnastics
 
#84
Why didn’t Brannew just say that “Hawk Eyes is even stronger than Saint Red hair!” His job was to hype up Mihawk to justify his bounty. Surely saying that Mihawk is just straight up stronger than Saint Shanks would be more hype than just saying that Mihawk exceeds Saint Shanks only in sword skill?
So in your opinion

Saying
"Mihawk surpasses even Saint Shanks and thus is the World's Strongest Swordsman" isn't enough?

How can you miss how this kills any argument?
Oda literally told us that the reason for why Mihawk is the strongest is that he is strongest than even Saint Shanks

Unless you want to cope and say that, of all the countless characters, Oda put Saint Shanks there for the lulz of it?

"Mbappe is the strongest footballer, he surpasses even Lebron James (who is not a footballer but let's put in the comparison for the lulz, according to how you say Oda did with Saint Shanks)"

"Mbappe is the strongest footballer, he surpasses even Haaland"

Which makes more sense in your opinion?
 
#86
He literally didn't, being stronger swordsman and being stronger are 2 different things.

Pica used sword vs Sanji first, then he dropped his sword and focused on his Haki only, and thats fodder Pica trying that, whose Haki wasn't even highlighted like Vergo before.

Saint Shanks's Haki gets hyped almost every single time he appears, only a moron would deny Saint Shanks doesn't have better Haki than Mihawk, if he does the same thing that fodder Pica tried, Saint Shanks would smash Mihawk without needing sword skill. And for sure, Saint Shanks's Kamusari doesn't cut, and Saint Shanks wouldn't really need a sword to replicate same feats. And same Kamusari style user Roger, wasn't WGS despite being PK and equal of WB.

Also, both Alber and Sanji confirmed using sword doesn't make someone a swordsman too. Saint Shanks can be like Alber, no one says he couldn't.



Saint Shanks literally says he doesn't play by the ''rules''.

Is this a running gag? You keep mixing up Zoro/Sanji
 
#88
Why didn’t Brannew just say that “Hawk Eyes is even stronger than Saint Red hair!” His job was to hype up Mihawk to justify his bounty. Surely saying that Mihawk is just straight up stronger than Saint Shanks would be more hype than just saying that Mihawk exceeds Saint Shanks only in sword skill?
There's a couple of reasons if you just think a little.

A) The guy thinks that Buggy is a baddass. We know, just based on that, that he don't know shit and his words can't be taken seriously.

B) The last time Saint Shanks and Mihawk faced each other it was before chapter 1. No one knows how Saint Shanks lost his arm and even WB assumed that it had something to do with Mihawk. We also know that Mihawk LOST to Saint Shanks in their last bout, since Saint Shanks assumed that Mihawk wanted to settle accounts (if Saint Shanks was the loser there would be no reason to think that).

Ergo, Mihawk reputation is based on smoke and mirrors. Bullying weaklings and running from the strong like this baddass here:vistalaugh::vistalaugh:
 
#89
This is just getting tired of explaining it
For the 1000 time king isn't a swordsman because he has this



Unless Saint Shanks sword does the same he is a SWORDSMAN BECAUSE:
1 IS A NORMAL SWORD
2 50% OR MORE OF HIS ATTACKS DEPEND ON IT
 
#90
The Mihawk vs. Saint Shanks debate is endlessly funny to me. Luffy is the protagonist of the story and will always be the strongest character among the crew. Zoro's goal is to surpass Mihawk. Oda will never make it so the second-in-command is stronger than Luffy, the captain. Therefore, if only for story reasons, Saint Shanks should be stronger than Mihawk. Even if he wasn't, Oda will make it so that he is.

Saint Shanks is also one centimeter taller than Mihawk. :cheers:
 
#91
The Mihawk vs. Saint Shanks debate is endlessly funny to me. Luffy is the protagonist of the story and will always be the strongest character among the crew. Zoro's goal is to surpass Mihawk. Oda will never make it so the second-in-command is stronger than Luffy, the captain. Therefore, if only for story reasons, Saint Shanks should be stronger than Mihawk. Even if he wasn't, Oda will make it so that he is.

Saint Shanks is also one centimeter taller than Mihawk. :cheers:
Saint Shanks isn’t luffys final goal. Mihawk is Zoros. So luffy will surpass Saint Shanks well before Zoro surpasses mihawk?

So why does this make Saint Shanks > Mihawk?
 
#92
Saint Shanks isn’t luffys final goal. Mihawk is Zoros. So luffy will surpass Saint Shanks well before Zoro surpasses mihawk?

So why does this make Saint Shanks > Mihawk?
Luffy objective is to give back Saint Shank's hat AFTER he conquers the sea. For story reasons alone, it will be his last proper bout.

There's a reason why Saint Shanks will not be in Elbaf.

Besides, since the start Saint Shanks has show to be better than Mihawk in everything. A guy that thinks Buggy is awesome is not going to change that.
 
#93
Luffy objective is to give back Saint Shank's hat AFTER he conquers the sea. For story reasons alone, it will be his last proper bout.

There's a reason why Saint Shanks will not be in Elbaf.
Luffy will give back the hat after surpassing Saint Shanks’ crew then he’ll become Pirate king.

Saint Shanks is going to end up Blackbeards hype to.
 
#97
Manga : Mihawk is the WSS; Saint Shanks grabs his sword everytime he appears on panel.
Malakhith : Saint Shanks is a better swordsman.

I don't understand :(
Manga:

Saint Shanks asks mihawk if he wants to settle the score, clearly indicating that mihawk lost the last bout. This is ignored.
Saint Shanks was able to split the skies with WB. Mihawk tried to see the distance against him and failed to even hurt Jozu.
Saint Shanks was the one to face Akainu in the war. Mihawk was the one to face someone that needed 15 other guys to have a chance against Akainu.
Saint Shanks has the reputation as a leader and Yonko. Mihawk reputation is for having faced pre-chapter 1 Saint Shanks before
Saint Shanks has a tittle that is clearly show to be desired by many in the story. Mihawk has a tittle that no one gives a single shit and not everyone that uses swords qualifies just to give him a excuse to keep the tittle.

@LolonoisZolo : Mihawk is better.
 
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