I hope Sento'Un is on Moubu/Man'U level because if generals start clowning Ranbihaku and Rokuoumi in 2v1s while being nowhere near the strongest in China then this Manga will go to concerning levels of power inflation.
Should give a certain someone something to think about whether Hara will make his version of Gold Roger equal to Gaimou who is about equal to Ranbihaku.... @Elder Lee Hung
Lmfao, we going at it in two threads it seems. Kingdom is a drug and we can’t get enough.
Anyway, no it’s not too much imo. Ouki’s vassals are among the weakest 6GG/3GH vassals we’ve ever seen. Who among the Qin 6 we’ve seen has weaker vassals than Ouki? Kanki maybe? Moubu? I doubt it as Moubu’s generals fought with Chu generals at Coalition.
Every 3GH/6GG has much better vassals than Ouki. Ouki had Tou and he even had Kyou for a while so he’s had some great vassals But Rokuomi and co. Ain’t it. Like I said I’d favor Ouki’s guys over Shukai Heki or like Mougou’s generals Eibei and Domon or whatever…but Ouki’s vassals are the weakest we’ve seen out of the Qin6/Zhao 3.
I’m not so sure Gakushou is weaker than Akou. Shibashou’s vassals are crazy. Fuu’On maybe.
But you’re getting distracted. I never said Akou > Sento’Un, we’re just discussing the Gyou’Un/Bananji feat vs the Ranbihaku/Rokuomi feat.
Gyou’Un and Bananji are both the real deal, there’s no room to doubt either of them as warriors. Ranbihaku is the real deal too, I don’t think you can doubt him. Rokuomi? Hell no lol. Sento’Un calling him a Chu 1,000 man commander was the end of me giving Rokuomi the benefit of the doubt. Maybe at EOS Rokuomi might sniff Heavenly King level but definitely not right now, he’s nowhere near that level still.
I hope Sento'Un is on Moubu/Man'U level because if generals start clowning Ranbihaku and Rokuoumi in 2v1s while being nowhere near the strongest in China then this Manga will go to concerning levels of power inflation.
Should give a certain someone something to think about whether Hara will make his version of Gold Roger equal to Gaimou who is about equal to Ranbihaku.... @Elder Lee Hung
Anyway, no it’s not too much imo. Ouki’s vassals are among the weakest 6GG/3GH vassals we’ve ever seen. Who among the Qin 6 we’ve seen has weaker vassals than Ouki? Kanki maybe? Moubu? I doubt it as Moubu’s generals fought with Chu generals at Coalition.
Every 3GH/6GG has much better vassals than Ouki. Ouki had Tou and he even had Kyou for a while so he’s had some great vassals But Rokuomi and co. Ain’t it. Like I said I’d favor Ouki’s guys over Shukai Heki or like Mougou’s generals Eibei and Domon or whatever…but Ouki’s vassals are the weakest we’ve seen out of the Qin6/Zhao 3.
This doesn't mean Rokuoumi is weak. He's a strong enough general. If I had to rank him I would put him on Sou'Ou/Shiryou level. Depending on her performance against Ji Aga that may change though. Even Futei held his own against Shin for a brief exchange.
Even as the self proclaimed No.1 Gigakou hater I cannot let this slide. MAYBE? @SakazOuki
Can we agree that Akou brutalises fake Shin and Futei 1v1 ? I think he might beat them 2v1.
Gakushou carries but I still believe he loses to Akou 1v1.
No way the No.1 of the Ousen army would rank No.4 in the Seika army.
we’re just discussing the Gyou’Un/Bananji feat vs the Ranbihaku/Rokuomi feat.
Gyou’Un and Bananji are both the real deal, there’s no room to doubt either of them as warriors. Ranbihaku is the real deal too, I don’t think you can doubt him.
I mean can one objectively even make a case for Akou looking better ?
Sento'Un fought a weaker duo but was pressed only so hard that he found it tough enough to enjoy while Akou was quite literally fighting for his life and only managed to hold out for what? A minute or two?
Even as the self proclaimed No.1 Gigakou hater I cannot let this slide. MAYBE?
@SakazOuki
Can we agree that Akou brutalises fake Shin and Futei 1v1 ? I think he might beat them 2v1.
Gakushou carries but I still believe he loses to Akou 1v1.
No way the No.1 of the Ousen army would rank No.4 in the Seika army.
To be fair, Kyou got killed by someone with exactly zero Weight. Fighters with no Weight are capable of matching and killing fighters with Weight if there is a large enough power gap between them.
With Ranbihaku, I doubt he has Weight since the dude seems to be a mindless, permanently bloodlusted brute that gets referred to as a berserker. I cannot see the bloke being capable of forming the emotional attachments necessary for Weight. He doesn't seem to be some inspirational leader for his men. He seems barely capable of processing a thought, let alone holding any ideals.
For now, I don't see how a character like this could hold Weight. Lol.
Yeah Moubu’s generals are so good he just threw Aisen away lol. Aisen was probably Moubu’s Akakin, decent but nothing compared to Moubu’s big boys like Raiki. I always said Moubu’s vassals were going to be strong.
mean can one objectively even make a case for Akou looking better ?
Sento'Un fought a weaker duo but was pressed only so hard that he found it tough enough to enjoy while Akou was quite literally fighting for his life and only managed to hold out for what? A minute or two?
To be fair, Sento’Un let himself get triple pincered with a smile on his face lol. I doubt even a check-mate scenario would’ve made Sento’Un concerned for his own safety, the dude is fucking nuts lol.
People always pointed out that Sento’Un smiled against Ranbihaku and Rokuomi. But like, yeah. Sento’Un has a damn death wish, of course he would be excited to be in such a circumstance lol.
To be fair, Kyou got killed by someone with exactly zero Weight. Fighters with no Weight are capable of matching and killing fighters with Weight if there is a large enough power gap between them.
With Ranbihaku, I doubt he has Weight since the dude seems to be a mindless, permanently bloodlusted brute that gets referred to as a berserker. I cannot see the bloke being capable of forming the emotional attachments necessary for Weight. He doesn't seem to be some inspirational leader for his men. He seems barely capable of processing a thought, let alone holding any ideals.
For now, I don't see how a character like this could hold Weight. Lol.
I doubt Ranbihaku even knows the world "significance".
Ranbihaku is pretty much just an attack dog for Reiou/GHM to point at their enemies, Gaimou is an experienced veteran who has his own views on warfare, a pretty developed view that he clearly has spent time thinking about.
I doubt Ranbihaku even knows the world "significance".
Ranbihaku is pretty much just an attack dog for Reiou/GHM to point at their enemies, Gaimou is an experienced veteran who has his own views on warfare, a pretty developed view that he clearly has spent time thinking about.
But isn't that reason enough to say he is around Gaimou level ?
RBH's only purpose is to fill the martial might part in Reiou's army since he himself was weak and if RBH couldn't hold his own against the likes of Earl Shi and Gaimou they couldn't have been equals. Remember the other fire dragons were killed so I bet Reiou was among the stronger ones.
To be fair, what Gaimou is saying here is a belief in of itself. Ask RBH a question on this topic and his response will either be a death stare, intense breathing or an animalistic roar of rage.
Anyway, unlike RBH, Gaimou is clearly capable of emotional attachment. I had this conversation sometime recently on why Gaimou isn't like Weightless characters such as Houken and Gekishin.
Nah, Gaimou and Houken aren't that similar. Gaimou may possess an absolutely cynical view of warfare but he still has emotional attachments as shown by his concern for his strategist (and his harem of beautiful babes ).
Houken by comparison actively rejects emotional attachments altogether (the Bushin 100% died a kissless virgin 😭).
In hindsight, I did read that post wrong but I got a joke out of it so it all works out.
Anyway, Gaimou and Gekishin aren't that similar for much the same reason, that reason being emotional attachment. Gaimou cares for his subordinates, Gekishin happily cuts down his own subordinates if they disappoint him. Gaimou is still loyal to his nation despite losing a decade of his life in imprisonment there, Gekishin fights for whatever kingdom pays him the most money.
To be fair, what Gaimou is saying here is a belief in of itself. Ask RBH a question on this topic and his response will either be a death stare, intense breathing or an animalistic roar of rage.
Anyway, unlike RBH, Gaimou is clearly capable of emotional attachment. I had this conversation sometime recently on why Gaimou isn't like Weightless characters such as Houken and Gekishin.
Lol, Gaimou’s weight stems from his attachment to his harem. If we ever got Houken vs Gaimou, instead of Gaimou being propelled forward by dead comrades like Shin, we get a giant double spread of Gaimou standing to face Houken with all of his prostitutes behind him pushing him forward.
Y’all thought Weighted Gaimou was the strongest Gaimou… Just wait until Hara draws horny Gaimou in a fight.
Lol, Gaimou’s weight stems from his attachment to his harem. If we ever got Houken vs Gaimou, instead of Gaimou being propelled forward by dead comrades like Shin, we get a giant double spread of Gaimou standing to face Houken with all of his prostitutes behind him pushing him forward.
Y’all thought Weighted Gaimou was the strongest Gaimou… Just wait until Hara draws horny Gaimou in a fight.
Gaimou just got out of prison and was up all night banging chicks left and right
He was chilling with Shin is all. When the time comes he’ll deliver.
Renpa smacks him tho (ext diff)
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