Starting at 5:40 "when they don't surrender they are not civilians"
"it's not our responsibility to identify who is a civilian and who is not" "human shields are no civilians"
"what are you eliminating here, people who shoot at you? No, you're eliminating people who might shoot at you"
"somebody has to identify the babies as non militant"

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Peak mental gymnastics
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12:55 ''peace means your enemy is so intimidated they will not try again for 40 years ''
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15:19''You have to defeat the people who create the army,not just the army''
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''Proportionality means if you can achieve peace by killing one person,don't kill two. If you achieve peace by killing a thousand, don't kill a thousand and one. But if you will not achieve peace unless you kill 50.000 and you stop at 40 that is so immoral because the 40 died for nothing":joker:
16:52 ''you make peace with an enemy after you defeat them''
I think your religious beliefs say more about who you are as a person than the religion itself.

like if your take away from the Torah is that war crimes are good, as opposed to racism is bad(something said multiple times), then you’re just a bad person looking for a way to justify if your shitty beliefs
 

Starting at 5:40 "when they don't surrender they are not civilians"
"it's not our responsibility to identify who is a civilian and who is not" "human shields are no civilians"
"what are you eliminating here, people who shoot at you? No, you're eliminating people who might shoot at you"
"somebody has to identify the babies as non militant"

:eeke::lawsigh:
Peak mental gymnastics
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12:55 ''peace means your enemy is so intimidated they will not try again for 40 years ''
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15:19''You have to defeat the people who create the army,not just the army''
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''Proportionality means if you can achieve peace by killing one person,don't kill two. If you achieve peace by killing a thousand, don't kill a thousand and one. But if you will not achieve peace unless you kill 50.000 and you stop at 40 that is so immoral because the 40 died for nothing":joker:
16:52 ''you make peace with an enemy after you defeat them''
These are some incredible takes
 
Some of you live in your comfy homes enjoying freedom given to you by USA being world police only to shit on it

You wouldn't have nearly as much with Russia or China or Iran being world police
My country is forced to expand its relationships with Russia and China,because we fear the USA and NATO.
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I just call Israel’s actions ethnic cleansing or war crimes just because I don’t feel like arguing about semantics.

Like say israel Isn’t committing genocide. Gaza is still a children’s graveyard.
Did Israel really flood those tunnels?
 
I think ethnic cleansing is a more descriptive term than genocide for both

Russia isn’t trying to kill all Ukrainians, they are trying turn them into Russians.

I don’t think israel is trying to kill all Palestinians either, although many people in Israel do want that. Rather their goal seems to be to expel Gazans into Egypt.
Genocide is the systematic destruction of an ethnic group. It isn’t all killing either. For example in the Armenian genocide a lot of women were forcibly converted to Islam with their children.

But yeah i don’t think there’s much proof that either are a genocide
 
hum?genocide is mass killing,dude.
No it isn’t. Genocide is the systematic destruction of an ethnic group. Mass killing has its own name, it’s called massacre
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Your genocide denial is really weird at this point. After tena of thousands of civilians were killed in two months you still ascrive those numbers to chance?

Or do you use the argument that at least a million Plaestinians need to be offed for it to be a genocide?

It's not a quota they need to meet to satisfy your desires.
I’m correcting you. Killing a bunch of civilians is not genocide. It never has been and it never will. Those are war crimes

Instead of calling it genocide denial actually read on what genocide is and try to see if it fits the criteria
 
I think your religious beliefs say more about who you are as a person than the religion itself.

like if your take away from the Torah is that war crimes are good, as opposed to racism is bad(something said multiple times), then you’re just a bad person looking for a way to justify if your shitty beliefs
maybe if he grows his beard a bit more it's big enough to hide his psychopath smirk
 
occupying Palestine and oppressing them with harsh living conditions

If they’re trying to genocide the Palestinians they’ve done a terrible job at it
Killing and displacing them is genocide.They will obviously not eradicate them all,but it seems to me they want to cause as much destruction as possible to displace Palestinians and force them to move away.Anyway,semantics doesn't matter.Israel policy of bombing the shit out of Gaza is evil.
 
Killing and displacing them is genocide.They will obviously not eradicate them all,but it seems to me they want to cause as much destruction as possible to displace Palestinians and force them to move away.Anyway,semantics doesn't matter.Israel policy of bombing the shit out of Gaza is evil.
Displacing them is ethnic cleansing, and the killing part requires the intent provided in the definition. “The destruction of an ethnic group”
 
No it isn’t. Genocide is the systematic destruction of an ethnic group. Mass killing has its own name, it’s called massacre
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I’m correcting you. Killing a bunch of civilians is not genocide. It never has been and it never will. Those are war crimes

Instead of calling it genocide denial actually read on what genocide is and try to see if it fits the criteria
Look up the Bosnian genocide (unless you also deny that was a genocide).
Systemically bombing an area filled with civillians of an ethnic group with complete disregard for their lives and amassing 10s of thousands of casualties that way is in fact a genocide whether you are ready to admit it to yourself or not
 
Displacing them is ethnic cleansing, and the killing part requires the intent provided in the definition. “The destruction of an ethnic group”
Did the jews get destroyed completely in ww2?No.Still a genocide.A massacre of a specific ethnicity IS a genocide.At this point you are just playing with semantics so Israel doesn't look that bad.Gross.
 
Look up the Bosnian genocide (unless you also deny that was a genocide).
Systemically bombing an area filled with civillians of an ethnic group with complete disregard for their lives and amassing 10s of thousands of casualties that way is in fact a genocide whether you are ready to admit it to yourself or not
Again you keep ignoring this

The acts have been found to have satisfied the requirements for "guilty acts" of genocide and that "some physical perpetrators held the intent to physically destroy the protected groups of Bosnian Muslims and Croats
it’s not the murder of mass civilians, it’s the intent to destroy an entire ethnic group
 
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
The word “genocide” was first coined by Polish lawyer Raphäel Lemkin in 1944 in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. It consists of the Greek prefix genos, meaning race or tribe, and the Latin suffix cide, meaning killing. Lemkin developed the term partly in response to the Nazi policies of systematic murder of Jewish people during the Holocaust, but also in response to previous instances in history of targeted actions aimed at the destruction of particular groups of people. Later on, Raphäel Lemkin led the campaign to have genocide recognised and codified as an international crime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
Definition of genocide[edit]
Article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as

... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[7]
Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention:

(a) Genocide;(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;(d) Attempt to commit genocide;(e) Complicity in genocide.
— Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 3[7]
The convention was passed to outlaw actions similar to the Armenian genocide and the Holocaust.[8]
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So they're killing them en mass without the intent to destroy the ethnic group? What?
the mental gymnastics are so gross
 
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