Did the jews get destroyed completely in ww2?No.Still a genocide.A massacre of a specific ethnicity IS a genocide.At this point you are just playing with semantics so Israel doesn't look that bad.Gross.
Did you completely miss the part where it says intent? Hitler was intending on killing all the Jews in the nations he had occupied, he literally diverted military funds and equipment to do so. That’s why it’s a genocide, the intent is clear.
Did the U.S genocide the Japanese when they nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It was the massacre of a specific ethnicity after all
"Hamas uses the Palestinians as meat shields,Israel has no choice"
Pretty sure that if Israeli citizens were used as meat shields,Israel would find a way to release them without killing off everyone.This argument is so fucking dumb and disgusting.
Did you completely miss the part where it says intent? Hitler was intending on killing all the Jews in the nations he had occupied, he literally diverted military funds and equipment to do so. That’s why it’s a genocide, the intent is clear.
Did the U.S genocide the Japanese when they nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It was the massacre of a specific ethnicity after all
Did you completely miss the part where it says intent? Hitler was intending on killing all the Jews in the nations he had occupied, he literally diverted military funds and equipment to do so. That’s why it’s a genocide, the intent is clear.
Did the U.S genocide the Japanese when they nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It was the massacre of a specific ethnicity after all
don’t call me dumb when I am probably the only person here who hasn’t called you a retard at least once
what you’re describing is ethnic cleansing dumbass. And yeah I 100% believe it Israel can it would ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Genocide? There’s no proof of that
... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
And what more intent does one need when Netanyahu has been spilling Old Testament verses about baby killing and wiping out their enemies since October lmao
don’t call me dumb when I am probably the only person here who hasn’t called you a retard at least once
what you’re describing is ethnic cleansing dumbass. And yeah I 100% believe it Israel can it would ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Genocide? There’s no proof of that
It would be ethnic cleasing if they were living in Israel.They are not.They are in Gaza.A piece of land mostly occupied by PALESTINIANS.
to quote international law:
"As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing. A United Nations Commission of Experts mandated to look into violations of international humanitarian law committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia defined ethnic cleansing in its interim report S/25274 as "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area." In its final report S/1994/674, the same Commission described ethnic cleansing as “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.”
The Commission of Experts also stated that the coercive practices used to remove the civilian population can include: murder, torture, arbitrary arrest and detention, extrajudicial executions, rape and sexual assaults, severe physical injury to civilians, confinement of civilian population in ghetto areas, forcible removal, displacement and deportation of civilian population, deliberate military attacks or threats of attacks on civilians and civilian areas, use of civilians as human shields, destruction of property, robbery of personal property, attacks on hospitals, medical personnel, and locations with the Red Cross/Red Crescent emblem, among others.
The Commission of Experts added that these practices can “… constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention.”
don’t call me dumb when I am probably the only person here who hasn’t called you a retard at least once
what you’re describing is ethnic cleansing dumbass. And yeah I 100% believe it Israel can it would ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Genocide? There’s no proof of that
People that call me retards are the ones that think a man wearing a dress is a woman,that the soviet union was not communist and that the EVIL PORTUGUESE raped all of the natives in Brazil.The dumb ones think they know it all.
literally what you quoted is contradicting what you believe. Ethnic cleansing would be the removal of Palestinians from their land, regardless if Israel owns it or not.
The Commission of Experts added that these practices can “… constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention.”
are you even reading what you posted? It says COULD, not that it is.
a punch can kill anyone, doesn’t mean we’ll charge every single assault as an attempted murder. There needs to be more factors involved such as ehem, intent.
It does matter because genocide is the intended destruction of the victim. Palestinian identity and people have only grown through out the years, and even at times there has been attempts for peace on both sides. So no, there hasn’t been a genocide for the past 80 years
literally what you quoted is contradicting what you believe. Ethnic cleansing would be the removal of Palestinians from their land, regardless if Israel owns it or not.
are you even reading what you posted? It says COULD, not that it is.
a punch can kill anyone, doesn’t mean we’ll charge every single assault as an attempted murder. There needs to be more factors involved such as ehem, intent.
It does matter because genocide is the intended destruction of the victim. Palestinian identity and people have only grown through out the years, and even at times there has been attempts for peace on both sides. So no, there hasn’t been a genocide for the past 80 years
The term you are bringing up doesn't even have proper definition:
"As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing."
But genocide does:
The Commission of Experts added that these practices can “… constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention"
Actually read what people post and don't cherry pick your quotes.
And what more intent does one need when Netanyahu has been spilling Old Testament verses about baby killing and wiping out their enemies since October lmao
The term you are bringing up doesn't even have proper definition:
"As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing."
But genocide does:
The Commission of Experts added that these practices can “… constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention"
Actually read what people post and don't cherry pick your quotes.
don’t call me dumb when I am probably the only person here who hasn’t called you a retard at least once
what you’re describing is ethnic cleansing dumbass. And yeah I 100% believe it Israel can it would ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Genocide? There’s no proof of that
I appreciate the dialogue happening.
But is not denying their existance while bombing civilian houses, in opinion, proof of Genocide?
Civilian cannot escape while being deliberately targeted and associated at the terrorist cause, while politician claim palestine never existed and have claimed it for years.
What more shouls be done in your opinion?
What i meant was that Israel doesn't have a big Arab/Palestinian population in their territory to cleanse them and that genocide is a better term for what is going on.I don't have a horse on this race,but Israel is committing genocide.
The definition says that the destruction can be partial.Again,6 million jews got off screened in ww2 and yet we still have millions of them alive and well.Going by that logic it wasn't a genocide since jews were not utterly destroyed.
I appreciate the dialogue happening.
But is not denying their existance while bombing civilian houses, in opinion, proof of Genocide?
Civilian cannot escape while being deliberately targeted and associated at the terrorist cause, while politician claim palestine never existed and have claimed it for years.
What more shouls be done in your opinion?
I appreciate the dialogue happening.
But is not denying their existance while bombing civilian houses, in opinion, proof of Genocide?
Civilian cannot escape while being deliberately targeted and associated at the terrorist cause, while politician claim palestine never existed and have claimed it for years.
What more shouls be done in your opinion?
1. Kidnapping of Palestinian women and children to indoctrinate them in re education camps
2. Indiscriminately killing of Palestinians. The IDF does evacuation notices, roof knocks etc. In a genocide none of this would be necessary because the goal is to get rid off as much a you can. There’s also millions of Palestinians outside of Gaza going about their day in the West Bank and Israel. Why would a hypothetical Palestinian genocide spare them?
3. Death marches, death camps etc
1. Kidnapping of Palestinian women and children to indoctrinate them in re education camps
2. Indiscriminately killing of Palestinians. The IDF does evacuation notices, roof knocks etc. In a genocide none of this would be necessary because the goal is to get rid off as much a you can. There’s also millions of Palestinians outside of Gaza going about their day in the West Bank and Israel. Why would a hypothetical Palestinian genocide spare them?
3. Death marches, death camps etc
2 and 3 have happened.
Evacuate.. where?
Palestinians cannot leave the country, and the whole cournry is bombed.
The march toward south was a death march, with civilians marching towarda another death zone now being bombed.
So, 2 and 3 have happened.
1 we could argue the gaza strip is a concentration camp itself.
And there are countless palestinian imprisoned , they cannot be re-educated because you are born jewish.
Actually it is. Genocid is the methodical destruction of a human group.
In Gaza. We now know that their is a volontary ethnical cleansing that is helped by the dehumanization of the population. Added to that the Israelian assertion that the population of Gaza is not innocent and that every terrorist must be eradicated.. you have the germs of the genocide which is happening under our eyes.
This is a genocide, an ethnical cleansing and a colonization. This must be denounced as such if we want to end this war and juge the culprit.
Actually it is. Genocid is the methodical destruction of a human group.
In Gaza. We now know that their is a volontary ethnical cleansing that is helped by the dehumanization of the population. Added to that the Israelian assertion that the population of Gaza is not innocent and that every terrorist must be eradicated.. you have the germs of the genocide which is happening under our eyes.
This is a genocide, an ethnical cleansing and a colonization. This must be denounced as such if we want to end this war and juge the culprit.
Authoritarism can indeed be capable of genocide. Weither you can call that leftism is more debatable on a political bases.
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