>Says Ethnic cleansing would be if they were in Israel
>Says ethnic cleansing doesn’t even have a proper definition
What i meant was that Israel doesn't have a big Arab/Palestinian population in their territory to cleanse them and that genocide is a better term for what is going on.I don't have a horse on this race,but Israel is committing genocide.
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>Says Ethnic cleansing would be if they were in Israel
>Says ethnic cleansing doesn’t even have a proper definition

do you even proof read what you type? You’re incoherent af



So Genocide is when leader says something? Cool. Find me the order Hitler gave to exterminate all Jews

I dislike Russia and I have said multiple times the holodomor and Ukraine war were/are probably not genocides

It’s not being biased, it’s actually having a knowledge of shit before spewing anything to make the side I don’t like look evil,
Holodomor not a genocide?wtf are you smoking?
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>Says Ethnic cleansing would be if they were in Israel
>Says ethnic cleansing doesn’t even have a proper definition

do you even proof read what you type? You’re incoherent af



So Genocide is when leader says something? Cool. Find me the order Hitler gave to exterminate all Jews

I dislike Russia and I have said multiple times the holodomor and Ukraine war were/are probably not genocides

It’s not being biased, it’s actually having a knowledge of shit before spewing anything to make the side I don’t like look evil,
You say you are not biased but you used the craziest mental gymnastics to say Israel is not committing genocide.Are you Israeli by chance?
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> Leader shows verbal intent to wipe out the ethnic group

- doesn't count as intent


> Army systematically kills the ethnic group

- where intent?


Like, what counts as intent at this point? Genuinely
He thinks there needs to be a public and formal movement to be considered genocide.
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Displacing them is ethnic cleansing, and the killing part requires the intent provided in the definition. “The destruction of an ethnic group”
The definition says that the destruction can be partial.Again,6 million jews got off screened in ww2 and yet we still have millions of them alive and well.Going by that logic it wasn't a genocide since jews were not utterly destroyed.
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I appreciate the dialogue happening.
But is not denying their existance while bombing civilian houses, in opinion, proof of Genocide?
Civilian cannot escape while being deliberately targeted and associated at the terrorist cause, while politician claim palestine never existed and have claimed it for years.
What more shouls be done in your opinion?
Pretty sure he will claim civilian loses are collateral damage of war.The semantics game is ridiculous.
 
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I appreciate the dialogue happening.
But is not denying their existance while bombing civilian houses, in opinion, proof of Genocide?
Civilian cannot escape while being deliberately targeted and associated at the terrorist cause, while politician claim palestine never existed and have claimed it for years.
What more shouls be done in your opinion?
> Leader shows verbal intent to wipe out the ethnic group

- doesn't count as intent


> Army systematically kills the ethnic group

- where intent?


Like, what counts as intent at this point? Genuinely
1. Kidnapping of Palestinian women and children to indoctrinate them in re education camps
2. Indiscriminately killing of Palestinians. The IDF does evacuation notices, roof knocks etc. In a genocide none of this would be necessary because the goal is to get rid off as much a you can. There’s also millions of Palestinians outside of Gaza going about their day in the West Bank and Israel. Why would a hypothetical Palestinian genocide spare them?
3. Death marches, death camps etc
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You say you are not biased but you used the craziest mental gymnastics to say Israel is not committing genocide.Are you Israeli by chance?

Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war
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No I am Palestinian
 
1. Kidnapping of Palestinian women and children to indoctrinate them in re education camps
2. Indiscriminately killing of Palestinians. The IDF does evacuation notices, roof knocks etc. In a genocide none of this would be necessary because the goal is to get rid off as much a you can. There’s also millions of Palestinians outside of Gaza going about their day in the West Bank and Israel. Why would a hypothetical Palestinian genocide spare them?
3. Death marches, death camps etc
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No I am Palestinian
2 and 3 have happened.
Evacuate.. where?
Palestinians cannot leave the country, and the whole cournry is bombed.
The march toward south was a death march, with civilians marching towarda another death zone now being bombed.
So, 2 and 3 have happened.
1 we could argue the gaza strip is a concentration camp itself.
And there are countless palestinian imprisoned , they cannot be re-educated because you are born jewish.
 
Ain't no white flags this time!


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genocide isn’t “let’s kill a bunch of people” or else every single war is a genocide
Actually it is. Genocid is the methodical destruction of a human group.

In Gaza. We now know that their is a volontary ethnical cleansing that is helped by the dehumanization of the population. Added to that the Israelian assertion that the population of Gaza is not innocent and that every terrorist must be eradicated.. you have the germs of the genocide which is happening under our eyes.

This is a genocide, an ethnical cleansing and a colonization. This must be denounced as such if we want to end this war and juge the culprit.


Left wing leaders are also capable of committing genocide
Authoritarism can indeed be capable of genocide. Weither you can call that leftism is more debatable on a political bases.
 

Actually it is. Genocid is the methodical destruction of a human group.

In Gaza. We now know that their is a volontary ethnical cleansing that is helped by the dehumanization of the population. Added to that the Israelian assertion that the population of Gaza is not innocent and that every terrorist must be eradicated.. you have the germs of the genocide which is happening under our eyes.

This is a genocide, an ethnical cleansing and a colonization. This must be denounced as such if we want to end this war and juge the culprit.



Authoritarism can indeed be capable of genocide. Weither you can call that leftism is more debatable on a political bases.
People that mock France for WW2 don't know shit about history.
 
I feel like if the Palestinian cause got even a modicum of support from the western powers that israel did, they wouldn’t be nearly as radical or bloodthirsty.

Like imagine if the US offered funds and weapons to Hamas under the conditions that they strictly go after military targets, and they significantly moderate some of their more extreme elements.

I think Hamas would take that offer.

Ultimately Hamas rapes and kills civilians because it doesn’t matter. Any resistance on their part is viewed as terrorism by the west. Any crimes israel commits are ignored. If they are going to be obliterated anyways, why not take more Israelis down with them out of spite?
 
I feel like if the Palestinian cause got even a modicum of support from the western powers that israel did, they wouldn’t be nearly as radical or bloodthirsty.

Like imagine if the US offered funds and weapons to Hamas under the conditions that they strictly go after military targets, and they significantly moderate some of their more extreme elements.

I think Hamas would take that offer.

Ultimately Hamas rapes and kills civilians because it doesn’t matter. Any resistance on their part is viewed as terrorism by the west. Any crimes israel commits are ignored. If they are going to be obliterated anyways, why not take more Israelis down with them out of spite?
israel rapes and kills civilians with american money so it really doesnt matter either way yeah.
 
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