Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1102 Spoilers Discussion

What will happen to Kuma?


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vega punk hid kuma memory

also vega punk hinted he knows a way to restore kuma memory, he told bonney if kuma came back

it would hurt bonney(her seeing kuma memory)

vega punk told luffy to bring her up, where kuma memory where..he manipulated her to kuma door lol


so imo there is way vegapunk has put to restore kuma.


also for bomb i see vegapunk tampered with it, because he setting his plan to restore kuma by setting chain of events on bonney--then we get kuma suddenly acting up and coming for bonney.
The way to restore Kuma memory was with the bubble that popped because of Bonney.

Now, Kuma lives in Bonney.
 
I like how this section of the leaks is just being completely ignored by everybody, acting like Oda's isn't trying his hardest to drill in the idea of Luffy clashing with Saturn into the heads of his viewers, multiples times:
"I know "Nika" is just a legend. But I promised Bonney that one day a "warrior of liberation" will come to free her. Luffys actions moved me!! I think he's the man who might end up changing the seas one day!!"
-Kuma seeing Luffy punch a celestial dragon- "this is a rebellious act that no one has been able to do for centuries!!"
Then there's the worlds shocking incident that is guaranteed to happen on Egghead.

What kind of copium does one have to be on to ignore all these cues of Luffy repeating this act. In a grander scale. On Egghead (AKA defeat of a world elder to one up what he did before) and hope for Kuma fighting/killing Saturn and them escaping?

Also what's with the comparison of Big Mom and Saturn? Is Oda now gonna be spending the next 20 years giving each of the Gorosei entire arcs for Luffy to fight? Or is it the more obvious comparison of Saturn being Katakuri and Kizaru Cracker of Egghead, and Imu basically Big Mom, which Luffy defeats a few arcs earlier so eventually Zoro/Sanji can fight one of the Gorosei (like they did with YC1/YC2 King and Queen) and Luffy fighting Imu, AKA him fighting Kaido, whos on the same level of Big Mom?
 
You ignore this? You think Vegapunk can do whatever he wants?

No. I'm saying, Saturn didn't enforce the project directly. It was Kizaru and others that oversaw it. Punk, the supposed smartest man should be able to outsmart them easily.

The very fact that Kuma is acting on his own right now means either Kuma has some faint memory of who he is, or he has some secret objective.

Both scenarios mean that Punk didn't completely comply to Saturn's directions.


And we know already that Punk had freedom to put in objectives. Cause Kuma had the objective of protecting Sunny.


Ain't no way Saturn allows something like that after Ennies lobby and other incidents if he had knowledge of the objective.
 
I like how this section of the leaks is just being completely ignored by everybody, acting like Oda's isn't trying his hardest to drill in the idea of Luffy clashing with Saturn into the heads of his viewers, multiples times:
"I know "Nika" is just a legend. But I promised Bonney that one day a "warrior of liberation" will come to free her. Luffys actions moved me!! I think he's the man who might end up changing the seas one day!!"
-Kuma seeing Luffy punch a celestial dragon- "this is a rebellious act that no one has been able to do for centuries!!"
Then there's the worlds shocking incident that is guaranteed to happen on Egghead.

What kind of copium does one have to be on to ignore all these cues of Luffy repeating this act. In a grander scale. On Egghead (AKA defeat of a world elder to one up what he did before) and hope for Kuma fighting/killing Saturn and them escaping?

Also what's with the comparison of Big Mom and Saturn? Is Oda now gonna be spending the next 20 years giving each of the Gorosei entire arcs for Luffy to fight? Or is it the more obvious comparison of Saturn being Katakuri and Kizaru Cracker of Egghead, and Imu basically Big Mom, which Luffy defeats a few arcs earlier so eventually Zoro/Sanji can fight one of the Gorosei (like they did with YC1/YC2 King and Queen) and Luffy fighting Imu, AKA him fighting Kaido, whos on the same level of Big Mom?
They can't comprehend the sheer narrative because they are blinded by their agendas.

Luffy will defeat Saturn and free Bonney, that's the Egghead incident.
 
The way to restore Kuma memory was with the bubble that popped because of Bonney.

Now, Kuma lives in Bonney.
pudding-memory restore
s bear has kuma df power/copy restore

there lot options


oda showed kuma being hopeless case but also still hope to make it out alive, but he bringing character like pudding with bb who are near egg head...aka pudding having higher chance to restore kuma, then got bonney learning of bomb


and oda showing kuma father words, nika will save kuma/fate
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They can't comprehend the sheer narrative because they are blinded by their agendas.

Luffy will defeat Saturn and free Bonney, that's the Egghead incident.
luffy will save

bonney and kuma!

bonney not gonna watch her father blow up in front of her..:gonope:
 
The very fact that Kuma is acting on his own right now means either Kuma has some faint memory of who he is, or he has some secret objective.
We got the explanation for this at the start of the arc… Oda introduces the idea that Vegapunk cannot entirely remove base desires and instincts… Vegapunk failed to completely remove his Robot shark’s tendencies to attack shit… and that’s just a shark, a mindless animal

Vegapunk doesn’t have a back up plan or a secret plan or whatever, he simply cannot remove Kuma’s instincts no matter how hard he tries… And Saturn either probably knows that and just accepts it or he doesn’t know that and thinks Vegapunk managed to do it
 
Some people would rather see Kuma explode in front of Bonney rather than Luffy defeat Saturn.
yeah those are haters

oda not gonna traumatized bonney who a child with her one goal of being with her father, and then see him exploding.. she already knows bomb plot

bonney-represents hope for kuma imo, he was there for her/sacrifice for her and luffy.. he never have anyone help/save him.. so now his turn to be saved finally!!

now she gotta work with rest to solve it, remove the bomb from kuma!
 
oda showed kuma stating he wont seek out bonney, but decide to go back on words when sees her out.. because later it is kuma memory/instinct seeking bonney current/present timeline.

the flashback does show kuma observing in background bonney making sure she ok, so this could hint more reason for kuma save luffy/lie to wg since they don't have her hostage. if he seeing his friends take care of bonney-gives him peace of mind... but that still naive because they got wrecked by bb and akainu. so unclear if killed or jailed.

at least present kuma realized/instinct to run back to mg for bonney. after seeing her there before.
He didn't go back on his words. He saw her once from afar when they were both on Sabaody and still remained hidden.

He recognized her, he still didn't greet her, he went along with his full part of the deal letting them remove his memories, he was confident on her being a strong pirate, he wasn't angry at the WG for her not being on Sorbet Kingdom (because the part that worried him was her not being detained in a WG facility, not that she should never ever leave Sorbet or something), he wasn't scared "of a literal child being a pirate".

It's word by word everything I had been telling you.

You may say it's naive that Kuma let her live her life like she chose to, but it's just him honoring his word to the letter. Also, right before Egghead we got a lesson on the morals of the story on such topics. Remember the talk between the SHs regarding Vivi and Sabo: trust, and freedom to each live their own adventures.
 
We got the explanation for this at the start of the arc… Oda introduces the idea that Vegapunk cannot entirely remove base desires and instincts… Vegapunk failed to completely remove his Robot shark’s tendencies to attack shit… and that’s just a shark, a mindless animal

Vegapunk doesn’t have a back up plan or a secret plan or whatever, he simply cannot remove Kuma’s instincts no matter how hard he tries… And Saturn either probably knows that and just accepts it or he doesn’t know that and thinks Vegapunk managed to do it
Yep it seem like VP not 100% sure how this work even more so with people that got strong will .
Like when S-Snake help luffy he was like oh so that possible let be write this down cause it not suppose to happen .
 
We got the explanation for this at the start of the arc… Oda introduces the idea that Vegapunk cannot entirely remove base desires and instincts… Vegapunk failed to completely remove his Robot shark’s tendencies to attack shit… and that’s just a shark, a mindless animal

Vegapunk doesn’t have a back up plan or a secret plan or whatever, he simply cannot remove Kuma’s instincts no matter how hard he tries… And Saturn either probably knows that and just accepts it or he doesn’t know that and thinks Vegapunk managed to do it
Maybe. But that doesn't change anything at all. He will still be coming to egghead and probably fighting Saturn in both scenarios. Which is the whole point of contention.

Whether kuma is doing this consciously or simply out of a pure animalistic base drive, he will confront Saturn regardless.
 
Oda is showing Kuma’s pov and thoughts regarding Luffy throughout this chapter and yet he conspicuously SKIPS giving us what Kuma’s thought were during this nothing happened thriller bark situation

Like technically Luffy was not in any danger really. Kuma was fucking with Zoro the entire time and almost killed him just for the sake of it
 
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