Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bob74h]

Leftists/liberals


and conservatives both are dumb with regards


liberals, he aint the second coming of hitler
didt hold of any of the same positions or anything nor did he have control of jack since most of the government is leftist so they hated him


and conservatives, he aint the second coming of jesus

he was kinda just a run of the mill republican just liberal media got pissed they lost the election and threw a 3 yr old baby fit



He kinda failed at most, he set out to do like the wall and so on


Only thing, I personally liked was that he called out the leftist status quo and often talked normal


that kinda annoyed some people that he didt talk professional but kinda liked that he acted real not like a corporate overlord


anyhow, his methods never worked cause he was trying to fight the very system that he needs to even get elected


gotta play low key until you rise to power entirely like what hitler did

 

[NAMELESS]

If they supported democracy they would be against him being erased from ballots.

They did the same with Bolsonaro here.They claimed he didn't use social media properly during elections,wtf is that even a crime?

 

[Logiko]

omg...look he is calling people gullible

The far right and ultra liberal vision are right now hegemonic. Meaning that you guys eating and pooping out those same rethoric without questionning them.. makes you gullible, yes.

 

[NAMELESS]

Leftists/liberals


and conservatives both are dumb with regards


liberals, he aint the second coming of hitler
didt hold of any of the same positions or anything nor did he have control of jack since most of the government is leftist so they hated him


and conservatives, he aint the second coming of jesus

he was kinda just a run of the mill republican just liberal media got pissed they lost the election and threw a 3 yr old baby fit



He kinda failed at most, he set out to do like the wall and so on


Only thing, I personally liked was that he called out the leftist status quo and often talked normal


that kinda annoyed some people that he didt talk professional but kinda liked that he acted real not like a corporate overlord


anyhow, his methods never worked cause he was trying to fight the very system that he needs to even get elected


gotta play low key until you rise to power entirely like what hitler did

Idolaty is a sin.Whoever idolizes politicians is dumb,whoever comparing people like Trump to the likes of left wing criminals is just stupid.

 

[Logiko]

Leftists/liberals


and conservatives both are dumb with regards

Leftism, liberalism and conservatism are three different visions of society mate, not two.

he called out the leftist status quo

THere is no such thing as a leftist status co mate.

 

[NAMELESS]

The far right and ultra liberal vision are right now hegemonic. Meaning that you guys eating and pooping out those same rethoric without questionning them.. makes you gullible, yes.

Africa=communist cesspool
Latin America=communist cesspool
Europe=balls deep in woke/progressive shit
America=50/50
Russia and China=lmfao
How the fuck is the right wing the establishment?Its the other way around.You have a twisted view of reality,my friend. Get out of your room and travel around the world a little and see how things are outside of France.

 

[Bob74h]

Still no. The left disagree with progressive liberal.

on what???


literally


you say your different

but they agree on everything literally

-abortion
-lgbt
-gun rights
-freedom of speech


and so on

im not listing every left wing position, but you get the point

Leftism, liberalism and conservatism are three different visions of society mate, not two.

liberal aint a ideology


progressive liberals are entirely different to libertarians/classisal liberals


progressive liberals are more like leftists in terms of the positions they hold


there is progressive liberal


and classical liberal


Two entirely serperate , liberal on it's own means jack shit


besides the title of liberal, there's nothing classical and progressive liberals have in common

Politically neutral people are rightists. There is no such thing as politicaly neutral.

just cause you are a bible thumbing leftist


loyal to the cause even if you have to lie and defend things that are not true cause beelief


just cause you are more of a zealot then literaal regigioius zealots



does not mean everyone else has placed their bets in one team, ride or die like you have


just cause you worship a idealogy does not mean everything and everyone does


carrot, you are a crazy radical


you represent nobody other then your fellow twitter leftiets, normal people on the street arent as invested in this bs as you are

I will start to call you a farrightist if you like people like Ben Shapiro or Matt walsh so much..

I never stated to like them


I try to look at things point to point


Are they full of shit on everything no


are they full of shit on sometimes ofc like the trans issue


Trans women raping girls in the bathroom is just a dumb fear mongering argument as most are into guys cause the goal of being trans would be to act like a normal woman

 

[Logiko]

Africa=communist cesspool

Wuat ??

Latin America=communist cesspool

Are you looking at argentina right now ?

Europe=balls deep in woke/progressive shit

One government on the left (spain), the rest either on the far right or ultra liberal... You are completely blind mate.

America=50/50

Ultra liberals again...

Russia and China=lmfao

Far right...

How the fuck is the right wing the establishment?Its the other way around.You have a twisted view of reality,my friend. Get out of your room and travel around the world a little and see how things are outside of France.

If you look at the far right gov and say they are leftist woke sh*t, no wonder you think the right is not all over the world. Your political compass is completely broken.
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on what???


literally


you say your different

but they agree on everything literally

-abortion
-lgbt
-gun rights
-freedom of speech


and so on

im not listing every left wing position, but you get the point

We disagree on

On feminism
On colonialism
On economy
On Politic in general
On racism
On freedom of speech
etc... etc..

The fact that we are both labeled as "progressive" don't mean that we agree. Progressism is just the right thing to do mate. If you are not progressive, you are just a douch.

Again, you don't understand the simplest things about politic.

liberal aint a ideology

Liberalism is an ideology mate. Its a vision of politics and economy.

 

[NAMELESS]

Wuat ??



Are you looking at argentina right now ?



One government on the left (spain), the rest either on the far right or ultra liberal... You are completely blind mate.



Ultra liberals again...



Far right...



If you look at the far right gov and say they are leftist woke sh*t, no wonder you think the right is not all over the world. Your political compass is completely broken.
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We disagree on

On feminism
On colonialism
On economy
On Politic in general
On racism
On freedom of speech
etc... etc..

The fact that we are both labeled as "progressive" don't mean that we agree. Progressism is just the right thing to do mate. If you are not progressive, you are just a douch.

Again, you don't understand the simplest things about politic.



Liberalism is an ideology mate. Its a vision of politics and economy.

That Milei dude is a farce.
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Logiko=grindset is basically call any commie that is publicaly an asshole a right winger.
His spectrum:Left wing,Center-left,Center,Extreme Right Wing.

 

[Bob74h]

I actually never got the anti trans argument


I get if you deny them and be like yea im only ok calling biological females


but trying to prevent trans surgery for adults is nuts, If a grown adult wants to do something

the state should not be involved in preventing them from making that choice


You can argue it's a bad choice but it's still ultimately should up to the person



Problem with liberals is they kinda wanna foce acceptance in people, you cant make people like shit



It's the same shit with christans, if a guy dont like the idea of gods then he aint gonna buy into it



at the end of the day, I dont really care for beliefs


you cant prove a giant man exists in the sky just as you cant prove men are running the world on average


those ideals only exist in the mind of the supportsers not in realitty, im not gonna buy into something just cause it's the idealogy


you personally love

 

[NAMELESS]

I actually never got the anti trans argument


I get if you deny them and be like yea im only ok calling biological females


but trying to prevent trans surgery for adults is nuts, If a grown adult wants to do something

the state should not be involved in preventing them from making that choice


You can argue it's a bad choice but it's still ultimately should up to the person



Problem with liberals is they kinda wanna foce acceptance in people, you cant make people like shit



It's the same shit with christans, if a guy dont like the idea of gods then he aint gonna buy into it



at the end of the day, I dont really care for beliefs


you cant prove a giant man exists in the sky just as you cant prove men are running the world on average


those ideals only exist in the mind of the supportsers not in realitty, im not gonna buy into something just cause it's the idealogy


you personally love

why do you



write


like this?

 

[Roo]

this doesnt seem correct. also the legal argument there is pretty strong, not only does it not apply to the president, they would have to convict on insurrection which hasnt been done. you cant just say "anyone accused of this cant run for office", you need the law to function all the way around

???

Whether it applies to the president or not is that argument presented by the court, which rules against trump.

As far as I’m aware his insurrection case is still going on, and neither case depends on each other to finish its ruling. I am pretty sure that’s not how the law works.

 

[Bob74h]

That Milei dude is a farce.
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Logiko=grindset is basically call any commie that is publicaly an asshole a right winger.
His spectrum:Left wing,Center-left,Center,Extreme Right Wing.

he's as bad as those right wing dudes that see sjw/woke shit everywhere even when it's not there


just that he sees fascism and nazi everywhere

he's as ideological and belief based as the people, he denounces

 

[NAMELESS]

he's as bad as those right wing dudes that see sjw/woke shit everywhere even when it's not there


just that he sees fascism and nazi everywhere

he's as ideological and belief based as the people, he denounces

Narrow view of reality.The man is inexperienced despite his age.

 

[Bob74h]

As far as I’m aware his insurrection case is still going on, and neither case depends on each other to finish its ruling. I am pretty sure that’s not how the law works.

trump supporters raid the capital

antfa and blm riot and burn down cities

 

[Logiko]

That Milei dude is a farce.

Such a farce that his gov is thinking about penalizing union protests....

Logiko=grindset is basically call any commie that is publicaly an asshole a right winger.
His spectrum:Left wing,Center-left,Center,Extreme Right Wing.

THere is no communist on earth. THere are some authoritarian but that's all. Authoritarism is not a leftist value.

just that he sees fascism and nazi everywhere

No. I only see potential of fascism everywhere. And you should be concerned too with the rise of the far right everywhere in the world.

The case of the israelian gov should be a wake up call for you.

The man is inexperienced despite his age.

That's cute.

 

[Bob74h]

No. I only see potential of fascism everywhere. And you should be concerned too with the rise of the far right everywhere in the world.

modern day crusader


zealots are everywhere


gotta kill zealots

 

[Logiko]

modern day crusader


zealots are everywhere


gotta kill zealots

No, just warning. If in 15 or 20 year you will need to walk in boots, don't be surprised.

 

[Bob74h]

The case of the israelian gov should be a wake up call for you.

it's war over there

both sides killed innocents


isarel bombed a shelter
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/gaza-airstrikes-warnings-invs/index.html


and Palestine killed and kidnapped babies
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/17/technology/hamas-hostages-social-media.html


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-i...im-that-bibas-children-mother-killed-in-gaza/

 

[Logiko]

both sides killed innocents


isarel bombed a shelter
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/gaza-airstrikes-warnings-invs/index.html


and Palestine killed and kidnapped babies
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/17/technology/hamas-hostages-social-media.html


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-i...im-that-bibas-children-mother-killed-in-gaza/

See, that's the problem.. You are equating two type of violence like those are the result of the same problem. When in reality, one side is the oppressor for 70+ year and the other the oppressed.

Yes, the hamas did an horrible thing, they let their anger talk which blinded them but this is completely different from a country that uses racist and dehumanizing tool to create a genocide.

Let be reminded that there are 1000+ victime on one side and 18000+ on the other. So it would be wise from you not to equate those.