Not gonna lie to you chief, this is nonsense.
Not taking a side in front of clear oppression only help said oppression. So by not taking responsibility of choosing a side, we ARE taking a side because we refuse to act in front of oppression.

Again, I could take another example. Let's see that you see a child be bullied and beaten up in the street by three goons. If you choose to walk away, you are CHOOSING not to act and help the kid. Therefore you ARE taking a side.
 
Not taking a side in front of clear oppression only help said oppression. So by not taking responsibility of choosing a side, we ARE taking a side because we refuse to act in front of oppression.

Again, I could take another example. Let's see that you see a child be bullied and beaten up in the street by three goons. If you choose to walk away, you are CHOOSING not to act and help the kid. Therefore you ARE taking a side.
Respectfully, I disagree with the whole "silence is violence" notion. In these hypothetical situations, one could be acting in the interest of self preservation as they may not be fully aware of the situation. What if the assailant has a weapon, for example? Would you be willing to give up your own life for someone that you don't know simply because you feel you are choosing a side by not acting at all? If you choose not to act, that does not mean that you support bullying or violence against women. You can twist it to look that way and people will buy it which is how we ended up with this entire idea to begin with but that way of thinking doesn't always correlate to reality.
 
self preservation as they may not be fully aware of the situation.
Self preservation in front of oppression is still a choice.

I'm not saying that siding against oppression is something easy here. I'm saying that this is the responsibility of all humans. You choose to look the other way while someone takes a beating. Ok. But you are choosing the side of the oppressor. The lack of response in front of oppression is the reason why so many people died during WWII in concentration camps.

The lack of support is still a support if it favors the oppressor, even if its a case of selfpreservation. This is a simple sociological data.
 
Let's say that you see a woman being beaten up in front of you by a stranger. Choosing not to help her IS taking a side.

i would not defend her

no need to risk my life for a random

That's exacly what I'm saying to you, this is not black and white, and this is not "both side are murderers", this is, one side is an oppressor, the other the oppressed.
this is literal black and white morality tho

what you talking about
 
You choose to look the other way while someone takes a beating. Ok. But you are choosing the side of the oppressor.
Not necessarily as you can work in different ways to oppose this kind of oppression without physically risking your own life. You can simply call the cops. You can vote on laws to get harsher punishment for these acts which can act as a deterrent from them happening to begin with. You can create a platform that raises funds for mental healthcare. Acting in self preservation in these cases does not equate to supporting these acts of oppression. Even saying it favors them is dishonest because the situation would not change if you weren't present to begin with. In order to say it favors them, your presence would have to provide them with an advantage that they otherwise would not have had.
 
i would not defend her

no need to risk my life for a random
Case and point.


this is literal black and white morality tho

what you talking about
No, this is sociology. The hegemonic thinking about this conflict consist in simplifying the battle between two equal side (like you are doing it now). THe reality is : it's not two equal side. There is a side that has been oppressed for generation and a side, much more powerfull that is oppressing the populations and colonization the lands illegitimately and illegally.


Not necessarily as you can work in different ways to oppose this kind of oppression without physically risking your own life.
Of course. But in this case you are taking the side of the oppressed. Siding with the oppressed doesn't mean that you necessarly has to take all the beating for them, only heroes and Luffy does that. Siding with them means that you make them voices heard.

For example, siding with Palestianian means that you will make the voice of Palestinian heard, either by explaining l(like I'm doing) the conflict to those who don't understand it or by protesting for example.

Siding means taking a side. After that, you can do small things if that's the only thing that you are capable of doing. For example, I can't protest because of my condition, so instead I'm trying to fight bigotery here. I just choose to fight bigotery in my own way with my own capacities.

Looking away means choosing not to act. It means staying silent in front of oppression or injustice.
 
Looking away means choosing not to act. It means staying silent in front of oppression or injustice.
It seems that there was miscommunication from the start then. I never equated self preservation with doing absolutely nothing. In these situations, you do what you can even if that means you don't physically get involved.
 
Im not retarded

if you wanna get in a life and death fight

where you can get stabbed, shot,raped or worse

you can do that but most people are just gonna walk away and call the cops


im just gonna walk away, no cops or anything.


that's just me tho


I dont really want the legal trouble


and carrot, you a skinny white dude with rich white parents


it's not like ever even been in a fight once in your life


im not like that, im just some low class dude nobody gonna care if they kill me


so why risk my life for a random women especially in that situation.


the woman wouldt help you if you got beat up


it's not two equal side. There is a side that has been oppressed for generation and a side, much more powerfull that is oppressing the populations and colonization the lands illegitimately and illegally.

Equal no


Israel is a bigger country with more connections and power


i dont think anyone disputes that much


You realize this kinda opressed argument can be levied at nazi germany too, after ww1 germany had heavy tariffs and were stigmatized which lead to hitler taking power appealing to the good of the german people



and here's the thing with the opressed angle, it's not one sided


oppression is not two sided


jews got destroyed and nearly genocided, where's the death toll for germans

slaves got well enslaved, the plantation owners didt get any negative punishment
did they??



and as goes for the spindards who conquered north america, killing and destroying the native american culture
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It seems that there was miscommunication from the start then. I never equated self preservation with doing absolutely nothing. In these situations, you do what you can even if that means you don't physically get involved.

dude you really think carrot gonna try having a brawl with a dude?

it's just politics shit


your taking carrot more seriously then he takes himself
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It seems that there was miscommunication from the start then. I never equated self preservation with doing absolutely nothing. In these situations, you do what you can even if that means you don't physically get involved.

dude you really think carrot gonna try having a brawl with a dude?

it's just politics shit


your taking carrot more seriously then he takes himself
 
im just gonna walk away, no cops or anything.


that's just me tho


I dont really want the legal trouble
I don't think you'd really face legal trouble just for reporting an incident. I'm also not going to say that you support violence against women for choosing not to take any action at all but my inner mind would say that you failed your moral obligation, which is something that I believe that a society is built upon.
 
It seems that there was miscommunication from the start then. I never equated self preservation with doing absolutely nothing. In these situations, you do what you can even if that means you don't physically get involved.
Then we agree.

Im not retarded

if you wanna get in a life and death fight

where you can get stabbed, shot,raped or worse

you can do that but most people are just gonna walk away and call the cops


im just gonna walk away, no cops or anything.
You do what you want mate. If you choose to be a coward, that's your choice.

it's not like ever even been in a fight once in your life
Technically not true, but this doesn't concern you.


so why risk my life for a random women especially in that situation.


the woman wouldt help you if you got beat up
Why live if you can't use your life for good ?

You realize this kinda opressed argument can be levied at nazi germany too, after ww1 germany had heavy tariffs and were stigmatized which lead to hitler taking power appealing to the good of the german people
Yeah.. don't even go there.
 
I don't think you'd really face legal trouble just for reporting an incident. I'm also not going to say that you support violence against women for choosing not to take any action at all but my inner mind would say that you failed your moral obligation, which is something that I believe that a society is built upon.

Might have to have testify in court if you were to have called or might get attacked as revenge by the guy who harmed the woman



in such situations, it's kinda up to the woman to protect herself


pepper spray,fire arm or whatever

Some might say, it's not manly or whatever to not protect woman but none of these guys really would have the balls to get in a real fight like that anyway


it's all talk like carrot like you think he gonna get a knife fight with a dude
 
???

Whether it applies to the president or not is that argument presented by the court, which rules against trump.

As far as I’m aware his insurrection case is still going on, and neither case depends on each other to finish its ruling. I am pretty sure that’s not how the law works.
you cant treat people as if theyre convicted of a crime until they have been convicted in a court of law. thats like the entire foundation of the american justice system. you are innocent until proven guilty. considering january 6th objectively wasnt an insurrection and he told people to go home that day, im not sure what they want to do
 
trump supporters raid the capital



antfa and blm riot and burn down cities
400 videos of cops opening doors for people and escorting them around, calmly walking through the halls. one guy steals a podium. police on video that just came out, shooting into crowds with rubber bullets and tear gas and shit before any violence erupts. a girl gets shot and killed for looking through a window that someone else broke (that guy wasnt arrested afaik). the main guy on video yelling at everyone WE GOTTA GO IN TO THE CAPITOL and pushing barricades and guards and whispering in people's ears before they go attack cops, that guy gets articles like this and wasnt actually arrested until late 2023, on a very small charge, while people who were just standing around inside are in jail for years.

definitely doesnt look like an insurrection to me. looks like a protest that got agitated by cops and then after the cops murdered a woman, everyone left.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html
 
Might have to have testify in court if you were to have called or might get attacked as revenge by the guy who harmed the woman



in such situations, it's kinda up to the woman to protect herself


pepper spray,fire arm or whatever

Some might say, it's not manly or whatever to not protect woman but none of these guys really would have the balls to get in a real fight like that anyway


it's all talk like carrot like you think he gonna get a knife fight with a dude
Most domestic violence cases don't make it to court and you can always choose to stay anonymous. Having fear of being attacked in revenge is irrational. I wouldn't risk my life for a random person either but the least I can do is inform the people who can prevent the situation from getting worse.
 
Most domestic violence cases don't make it to court and you can always choose to stay anonymous. Having fear of being attacked in revenge is irrational. I wouldn't risk my life for a random person either but the least I can do is inform the people who can prevent the situation from getting worse.

Depends on severity ig

I just dont want to get involved

that's it


The only case where people would be fine getting involved


Is if it's family,friends or some person you know


but as said, most will just call the cops and walk off


I would protect my younger cousins and that's about it as for randoms, I care about as much as they would care about me
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400 videos of cops opening doors for people and escorting them around, calmly walking through the halls
source??
 
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