For Kizaru to transport that much food moving so fast for no one to notice, he would have to move in extremely high speeds for which he would have to consistently shift to his light form.
Then if he was in his light form, he has always caused sudden brightness which would have been noticed by atleast somebody
I was originally thinking the same thing, but he’s already done similar when he disappeared from in front of Franky and appeared in the middle of the control room. Franky didn’t even realize that he was gone, and everyone in the control room didn’t realize he was there until he started talking, even though he was right in front of Vegapunk & surrounded by all of them.
That’s why I now think the possibility is still there
- If Kizaru can move and feed Luffy, he is absolutely faking not getting up because he LITERALLY got up feed Luffy at light speed.
- If Kizaru is hurt and cannot move because he's recovering, then he could not have helped Luffy.
These are very basic, rudimentary things ro get logically. I didnt say anything concrete or specific to meet headcanon. You keep projecting nonsense on me.
Your "Kizaru used the last of his strength to feed Luffy" is the opposite and is, in fact headcanon because you use it to try and argue your point illogically with no foundation of an argument.
So yes, either Kizaru is helping Luffy and faking it, or he's hurt and not helping Luffy. Nothing I said here is agenda. Pull your head out of your ass.
What are you yapyapping about? You are pushing an agenda by making it a "2-choice" situation.
It's funny how you just didn't consider the 3rd option:
- Kizaru got knocked out by White Star Gun, he was paralyzed, and now that he is partly recovered, he is having second thoughts and he decides to feed Luffy with the only will and energy left he has. Kizaru did not receive an order from Saturn since White Star Gun so he doesn't have to go after Luffy.
Luffy did knock Kizaru out but Kizaru still had to obey to Saturn until White Star Gun. Luffy freed Kizaru from his mission and now he can finally just lay there and wait for Nika to save his friends.
What are you yapyapping about? You are pushing an agenda by making it a "2-choice" situation.
It's funny how you just didn't consider the 3rd option:
- Kizaru got knocked out by White Star Gun, he was paralyzed, and now that he is partly recovered, he is having second thoughts and he decides to feed Luffy with the only will and energy left he has. Kizaru did not receive an order from Saturn since White Star Gun so he doesn't have to go after Luffy.
Luffy did knock Kizaru out but Kizaru still had to obey to Saturn until White Star Gun. Luffy freed Kizaru from his mission and now he can finally just lay there and wait for Nika to save his friends.
Because the "3rd" option injects headcanon on Kizaru's state and thought process. The 2 that I mention does none of this, they are just objective facts you can make about the scene:
- If he helped Luffy, he can move (which hes doing behind Saturn's back and not moving)
- If he can't move, then he's not helping Luffy.
For some magical reason, the one time a character shows absolutely no visible damage (Kizaru doesnt even have blood showing lol), he has no more energy. In 1100 chapters of this series, for some reason NOW that point you are trying to make is true.
If you cant get the difference or see how biased and blind you are being because of it, then theres nothing else that can be said about this. Im not even making a biased comment here, since neither option actually benefits Kizaru lol
Because the "3rd" option injects headcanon on Kizaru's state and thought process. The 2 that I mention does none of this, they are just objective facts you can make about the scene:
- If he helped Luffy, he can move (which hes doing behind Saturn's back and not moving)
- If he can't move, then he's not helping Luffy.
For some magical reason, the one time a character shows absolutely no visible damage (Kizaru doesnt even have blood showing lol), he has no more energy. In 1100 chapters of this series, for some reason NOW that point you are trying to make is true.
If you cant get the difference or see how biased and blind you are being because of it, then theres nothing else that can be said about this. Im not even making a biased comment here, since neither option actually benefits Kizaru lol
Pringles, ask yourself a REALLY simple question: What fucking agenda can i be pushing if Kizaru is:
- An ally, thus not a Luffy opponent
- An enemy, who OBJECTIVELY has no visible damage but is recovering.
Those are literally the 2 options Im talking. They say completely opposite things: Kizaru is not a threat and Kizaru is POTENTIALLY still a threat (like I aint even making a hard claim here)
So explain to me what exactly Im doing to back my "agenda". You guys sound stupid as fuck
Pringles, ask yourself a REALLY simple question: What fucking agenda can i be pushing if Kizaru is:
- An ally, thus not a Luffy opponent
- An enemy, who OBJECTIVELY has no visible damage but is recovering.
Those are literally the 2 options Im talking. They say completely opposite things: Kizaru is not a threat and Kizaru is POTENTIALLY still a threat (like I aint even making a hard claim here)
So explain to me what exactly Im doing to back my "agenda". You guys sound stupid as fuck
The agenda that you are pushing is that Kizaru recovered but he decided to pretend he didn't.
This is pure nonsense and clear "agenda pushing" from your side.
You think that Kizaru either recovered and is pretending or he didn't recover.
When there is a grey zone.
Kizaru could have recovered partly enough to feed Luffy but not to fight him. Also, Kizaru is a "conflicted admiral" whose motto is "unclear justice" and only a "cog in the machine". He didn't receive an order from Saturn yet since White Star Gun.
If i provide 2 very basic options on what is happening with Kizaru, one of which is the exact opposite of the shit you are saying about me, then how the fuck do I have an agenda?
Yes, IF he fed food to Luffy, then he absolutely is hiding his status because he can clearly move to help Luffy. To act like this isnt the default situation and instead assume he's playing 4D chess with his injury is laughably hypocritical.
You have an agenda bruh, no need to project this nonsense. You clearly hate Admirals, and thats a YOU problem
If i provide 2 very basic options on what is happening with Kizaru, one of which is the exact opposite of the shit you are saying about me, then how the fuck do I have an agenda?
Yes, IF he fed food to Luffy, then he absolutely is hiding his status because he can clearly move to help Luffy. To act like this isnt the default situation and instead assume he's playing 3D chess with his injury is laughably hypocritical.
You have an agenda bruh, no need to project this nonsense. You clearly hate Admirals, and thats a YOU problem
If i provide 2 very basic options on what is happening with Kizaru, one of which is the exact opposite of the shit you are saying about me, then how the fuck do I have an agenda?
Yes, IF he fed food to Luffy, then he absolutely is hiding his status because he can clearly move to help Luffy. To act like this isnt the default situation and instead assume he's playing 3D chess with his injury is laughably hypocritical.
You have an agenda bruh, no need to project this nonsense. You clearly hate Admirals, and thats a YOU problem
If i provide 2 very basic options on what is happening with Kizaru, one of which is the exact opposite of the shit you are saying about me, then how the fuck do I have an agenda?
Yes, IF he fed food to Luffy, then he absolutely is hiding his status because he can clearly move to help Luffy. To act like this isnt the default situation and instead assume he's playing 3D chess with his injury is laughably hypocritical.
You have an agenda bruh, no need to project this nonsense. You clearly hate Admirals, and thats a YOU problem
I think it was Kizaru. It remains to be seen if he'll be able to disobey an order from Saturn and escape from being a cog in the machine or if his duties as a Marine will make him remain an enemy of the strawhats.
If i provide 2 very basic options on what is happening with Kizaru, one of which is the exact opposite of the shit you are saying about me, then how the fuck do I have an agenda?
Yes, IF he fed food to Luffy, then he absolutely is hiding his status because he can clearly move to help Luffy. To act like this isnt the default situation and instead assume he's playing 3D chess with his injury is laughably hypocritical.
You have an agenda bruh, no need to project this nonsense. You clearly hate Admirals, and thats a YOU problem
Pringles has embraced full trolling mode btw, so don’t take it too seriously. I believe seeing Kerkovian, Durableguy and co. not having to make any sense or ever admit to being wrong enticed him to fully embrace it. It’s odd but understandable considering the history.
Trying to apply logic with someone purposefully trying to ignore it just to get a rise out of you is a fruitless endeavour
Pringles has embraced full trolling mode btw, so don’t take it too seriously. I believe seeing Kerkovian, Durableguy and co. not having to make any sense or ever admit to being wrong enticed him to fully embrace it. It’s odd but understandable considering the history.
Trying to apply logic with someone purposefully trying to ignore it just to get a rise out of you is a fruitless endeavour
Shut the fuck up you disrespectful shit, you owe an apology in the first place with the other suspects (@Sir Yasheen@Extravlad).
How bold of you to attack me when you kept pushing nonsense. You even dared to mock me for correctly assuming that Saturn was stronger than Kizaru and that Saturn was the main villain of Egghead that Luffy was going to defeat. You kept pushing that Kizaru was stronger than Saturn and that Luffy would fight Kizaru in round 2 when I told you back in CHAPTER 1095 that Saturn was clearly the main villain of Egghead and that he was superior to your idol Kizaru in an agendaless point of view. Yet, your sassy ass thought this was an agenda speaking because I waste my time arguing with agenda bums like you.
You and the typical suspects (@Sir Yasheen@Extravlad and co) still think that the main villain of Egghead is Kizaru and that Luffy will fight him in round 2. Clearly an "agendaless" point of view like you pretend it is.
Stop projecting your lack of understanding of the situation on me, you are not ever getting back from this, all the nonsense you sprouted is going to bite you in the ass.
Don't quote me ever again until you apologize for what you said, I'll just add you back to my ignore list like you were since chapter 1095.
Shut the fuck up you disrespectful shit, you owe an apology in the first place you bum with the other suspects (@Sir Yasheen@Extravlad).
How bold of you to attack me when you kept pushing nonsense and mocked me for saying that Saturn was stronger than Kizaru and that Saturn was the main villain of Egghead. You kept pushing that Kizaru was stronger than Saturn and that Luffy would fight Kizaru in round 2.
You and the typical suspects (@Sir Yasheen@Extravlad and co) still think that the main villain of Egghead is Kizaru and that Luffy will fight him in round 2.
Stop projecting your lack of understanding of the situation on me, you are not ever getting back from this, all the nonsense you sprouted is going to bite you in the ass.
Don't quote me ever again until you apologize for what you said.
^See what I mean? He’ll just start spouting some nonsense, putting words in my mouth or projecting some nonsense on me in the hopes that it will upset me. He even dragged me into some obscure thread (I think it was the “Waiting Room) despite still being unable to answer 1 simple question I’d asked him days ago (which he still hasn’t answered). Truly bizarre.
For example, I never said that Kizaru is the main villain of Egghead and have explicitly pointed out that it’s Saturn multiple times.
I even had to point that out to someone else on some thread.
I’ve given up on ever trying to understand such neurotic behaviour from what I assume are grown ass men acting like toddlers.
I just can’t see any benefit in such unreasonable behaviour to begin with…which is probably why I don’t understand the glee they seem to get out of it. Just plain bizarre…
That’s what I was originally thinking too….but to be fair he does something similar when he disappears right in front of Franky & Lilith and shows up right in the middle of the control room. None of those there even realize it until he speaks…even though he’s right in front of Vegapunk and surrounded by them.
I still don’t think it’s him, but he’s shown it’s possible.
Sure, but this situation is a bit different, especially because the way to transport that amount of food would require a good amount of "light", if you look closely at the amount of food there + what Liffy has already eaten, it's a crazy amount of food.
I'm still with the Kizaru's theory because of the symbolism of him thinking about Sento and Bonney and his suspect reaction after the food appears.
But idk, ig we'll have the answer in the next chapter.
At least, it turns out my prediction in the chapter thread was spot on.
The thought of Kizaru feeding Luffy to get him back in fighting shape has exactly those you would expect mortified.
I won’t rule out Kizaru as an option, but it makes more sense to be someone else.
Every new arc there’d be one character that some fans beg to become Strawhats. It always makes me think that they must not love the Strawhats that much if they want just any bum off the streets to join them.
Caesar is still the worst option I’ve ever seen anyone suggest to become a Strawhat.
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@Sir Yasheen That’s what I was originally thinking too….but to be fair he does something similar when he disappears right in front of Franky & Lilith and shows up right in the middle of the control room. None of those there even realize it until he speaks…even though he’s right in front of Vegapunk and surrounded by them.
I still don’t think it’s him, but he’s shown it’s possible.
That’s fair I forgot about the control panel scene. I still don’t think it’s him personally as disappearing and hauling back all that food without anyone noticing him disappearing in front of a large group of people is pretty nuts but who knows
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