Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

You absolutely need to understand that because a woman do something unlawfull, this doesn't negate situation as a victim. Heard is still a victim of abuse EVEN if she lied about some charity donation.

Obviously unlawful fucks can have have other people commit crimes against them. Thanks captain obvious.

If only she had the evidence backing up her extraordinary claims.
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Transwomen are women. If you refuse to accept that, then you are denying there identity.

No im not, and even if i were, cry me a river
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won't have this debate with you again as you absolutely don't care about science and only your transphobic definitions.

*basic definitions vast majority of people use and have used for ages.

Not my fault that the definitions are based around sex and not gender identity. Dont blame me. Hit me up when dictionaries show your fringe version as the default. I think that will need some decades to happen though

 

[Ravagerblade]

Who fucking shits in a bed and isn't considered Psychopathic?

 

[NAMELESS]

Sorry, I think you are misstaken, you are saying to the guys who deradicalized himself from the far right and complotism, who went from being anti SJW to a militant leftist, who went from liberals to anti liberal, who went from not knowing anything about science to sociologist apologist, who went from ignorance to knowledge about multiple subject such as feminism/antiracism/anticolonialism/antifascism.. that he is in a "closed off mindset".



We are indeed. Sadly for you, science is on our side, and you won't suppress science. So you WILL lose mate. The far right you are the representation of will eventually lose again. It might come back again, but will lose again, and again, and again.

Simply because reality is not on your side.

You can either accept it, or take a rock and live under it. But take an umbrella, more rocks are coming your way.

Ever thought about moving away to Cuba or North Korea?
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Who fucking shits in a bed and isn't considered Psychopathic?

Little kids or toddlers.

 

[Zenos7]

Who fucking shits in a bed and isn't considered Psychopathic?

lmfao

 

[Bob74h]

There is no such thing as race, there is only one human specie.

races exist


the whole idea of racial equality arguments only make sense if race is real




leftists/liberals preach black rights so if black people as a category are not real then what's the point of advocating for them


they arent real afterall



besides two breeds of dog can exist both be dogs just as two races and can exist yet still both be homo sapiens

No no. You are mconfusing the creation of life and the creation of a human life. In reality a blob of skin really becomes human (meaning having all the attribute of what makes us different from animals and plants) on the 20th week when we aquire consciousness.

i dont see any difference



between a human life and just life itself



it's just stages of life, im not anymore me then a zygote of myself or a egg of myself


their just different stages in my existence before being born much like frogs starting out as eggs then turning into tadpoles before ultimately becoming a frog

Transwomen are women. If you refuse to accept that, then you are denying there identity. You can, but that would make you a transphobe. So be careful.

it's kinda strictly ideological tho


i see it on a case to case basis if im speaking kinda factually then male = adult man but if on a interpersonal level, who gives a shit if a man calls himself a woman or woman calls them self a man



at the end of the day, I belilive in freedom so they wanna dress and act as whatever then they should be allowed to do that

Of course, that's precisely why I say that Amber Heard actually suffered when Depp did not. Depp lost contracts, he didn't get wordwide shamed on the internet and medias, he was not harrassed, she was.

probably both are true in this case



it's entirely possible amber was stressed over internet mockery and johnny was stressed over losing contracts


it did not have to be mutually




question carrot unrelated but why does nobody talk about russia vs ukraine war anymore all the discourse just shifted to isarel vs palestine

ecause if we consider that we must absolutely preserve life no matter, then we must also preserve all the life on our planete including plants

for 1 why does that equate


and for 2 what would be the issue with preserving plant life if anything protecting nature should be considered a just action



infact im one of those people who would support protecting all animal and plant life, we need to care about conservation of other species

 

[Logiko]

Not in this context really.

In this context we are not debating about the beginning of life, but the frontiere we put on the beginning of humanity. Simply because clinging to life would means that we must have the same respect for plants.

Uhm so that life form eventually becomes human?

Only if its not stopped

No dude, its a member of homo sapiens from the first developmental life stage, so zygote.

Biologicaly yes, it has the POTENTIAL of becoming a FULL human, but until it gets ALL the attribute of an homosapians sapians, its only skin + energy. Consciousness only arise around week 20th, its here that the potential gets real.

The question of abortion is dominant in conservative and far right debate because for them it stopped a human life, but in reality abortion only stops a bunch of skin+ energy to develop INTO a human. its not conscious yet. Therefore it can be stopped. If you disagree with that, then you also need to fight against people who walk on grass, recolt plants or cut trees

Thats just the first example i thought of lol.

Then its not enough to prove that she is a psychopath.

Obviously unlawful fucks can have have other people commit crimes against them. Thanks captain obvious.

If only she had the evidence backing up her extraordinary claims.

She had them mate. Not about the rape, but about the agressions. She also had testimonies backing her up, do not forget that.

No im not, and even if i were, cry me a river

You do what you want, just be aware of the consequences.

*basic definitions vast majority of people use and have used for ages.

Definitions are like species, they evolves with time and environment pressure. So your argument holds no power here. Your definition (which are not even definitions in fact, you just refuse to call a trans woman a woman) are bonkers, they are anti scientific.

Who fucking shits in a bed and isn't considered Psychopathic?

This is stupid, not psychopathic. Words have meanings.

Ever thought about moving away to Cuba or North Korea?

To engage in resistance against their government ? No, not really. But that's an idea.

races exist

Nop. Careful, the report button is close.

the whole idea of racial equality arguments only make sense if race is real

No.
What you are confusing is the inexistance of races and the existence of a process called "racialization". Racialization is a social PASSIVE process where people create sociological races because of the color of the skin, the origins or the confessions of a person.

What we must stop is THAT racialization process and for that we must accept that there is systemic racism in place in the world.

leftists/liberals preach black rights so if black people as a category are not real then what's the point of advocating for them

Nop. Usually liberals don't preach "black rights", usually they do not care. But once again you are showing how ignorant you are about the subject, how would you know that when you don't even want to make the distinction between a liberal and a leftist.

Black people are part of a SOCIAL GROUP. Its a population, not a race. This group is characterized by the racialization process they face because of they varying dark skin

besides two breeds of dog can exist both be dogs just as two races and can exist yet still both be homo sapiens

In theory yes, but the human specie didn't divided enough biologically to do that. And even in that condition, this would not be a reason to creaty hierarchy between those races

i dont see any difference



between a human life and just life itself



it's just stages of life, im not anymore me then a zygote of myself or a egg of myself


their just different stages in my existence before being born much like frogs starting out as eggs then turning into tadpoles before ultimately becoming a frog

The question is not about the existence of life itself, its about thelimit we put on the possibility to ends this lifeform before it becomes conscious.

it's kinda strictly ideological tho

No its not. Trans identity is a scientific data.

probably both are true in this case



it's entirely possible amber was stressed over internet mockery and johnny was stressed over losing contracts

You are equating the impact of harrasment with stress. The effect of harrasment is not only stress, its also trauma. Let's not be intellectually dishonest here.

question carrot unrelated but why does nobody talk about russia vs ukraine war anymore all the discourse just shifted to isarel vs palestine

Many possible reasons:

- We are closer in term of culture to Israel than Ukraine
- The conflict against Ukraine do not create spectacle
- Because the death toll is much higher on the palestinian side when you look at the temporality of the conflict

for 1 why does that equate

Because life is life.

There is two reasons why people wants the end of abortion:

- Because it stripped life away
- Because it strip the potential of a human life away

Those two reasons are problematic:

- In the first point, Life is life, so if we must prevent life from being stripped away, we must do it for all living things including plants
- For the second point, this is a bad argument as a potential human when unwanted is just a potential, its not a full human yet and not conscious. Its just a conceptual being, so there is no rationnal reason to want the end of abortion in that case

and for 2 what would be the issue with preserving plant life if anything protecting nature should be considered a just action

THen this would be coherent if you never walk on grass or recolt a flower. I mean, why not, but good luck with that when we know that our carbon footprint already will have indirect negative effects on plants so.. again, good luck with that.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

races exist

Races are largely imaginary classifications of people based off flimsy logic and ignorance.

Hence race is only relevant as it relates to undoing damage caused by racism.

But I’ll give you an example. The nazis viewed Jews as a race, one that was inferior to the Aryan race. However any Jewish person can tell you that this idea of a “Jewish race” is bogus.

Jewishness has nothing to do with your genes, but is rather based off your religion. A person with a Jewish father but a non Jewish mother wouldn’t be Jewish…. by orthodox standards. However they would be Jewish under the reform denomination.

Furthermore one can have absolutely no familial connection to the Jewish people but still be considered Jewish if they undergo conversion.
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It’s the same for black people honestly. What even are “black people”?

Someone like Obama would be considered black in America. However in Africa, such a person would be classified as “colored” on account of Obama having a white mother.

furthermore Africa has numerous different ethnic groups all with distinct physical features. Somalians look different from west Africans, who look different from Nilotics, who look different from bushmen.

calling all of these various groups “black” is a completely arbitrary distinction made by Europeans.

You might as well say that gingers are their own race. Or fat people are their own race. Or men shorter than 6 foot are their own race.

 

[Bob74h]

No.
What you are confusing is the inexistance of races and the existence of a process called "racialization". Racialization is a social PASSIVE process where people create sociological races because of the color of the skin, the origins or the confessions of a person.

so you reject it on a biological level despite the existence of ancestry tests which by your dna can accurately tell you which race you are



kinda a stupid rebuttal anyway cause you admitting to accept race as a existent thing at least on a social lv

THen this would be coherent if you never walk on grass or recolt a flower.

there's a difference to accidentally injuring grass as opposed to killing it purposefully


stop being dishonest and carrot are you against preservation of nature????



cause it sounds like you dislike my stance on this

You are equating the impact of harrasment with stress. The effect of harrasment is not only stress, its also trauma. Let's not be intellectually dishonest here.

trauma and stress are literally go hand and hand


they are not things entirely different to one another




and yea harassment can lead to stress



tbh doubt internet dudes are really gonna inflict any long term trauma like how parental abuse or domestic abuse can


such abuse can lead to how you view all men,women or whatever long term




internet comments arent really that big of a deal man

how would you know that when you don't even want to make the distinction between a liberal and a leftist

they have the same stances on every issue and loads of people use the word interchangeably



so it just seems to be the same shit outside of you who's extremely biased, id love to hear a self professed progressive liberal say me and those leftists are different
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Races are largely imaginary classifications of people based off flimsy logic and ignorance.

there are clear physical and genetic differences such as lower immunity to sickle cell amenia and other diseases


races are based on more based on biology then social pressure

It’s the same for black people honestly. What even are “black people”?

people with ancestry originating in africa as opposed to europe or americas



it's why south americans are not black, they evolved darker skin tone separately to handle similarlly hot climates
https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidenc...sun exposure damages,of ultraviolet (UV) rays.


and since they evolved the pigment differently alot of common black features are not present in the south american people


larger lips, larger jaw muscles and more curly hair as examples

its about thelimit we put on the possibility to ends this lifeform before it becomes conscious.

if it's just solely about the level of consciousnesses then should we kill every dog

every mentally retarded person,every comatose person



level of iq or intelligence should not ever be a factor if we decide if something lives or dies



should we kill your siblings or you if it's deemed that you have lower level of conscious

 

[Logiko]

so you reject it on a biological level despite the existence of ancestry tests which by your dna can accurately tell you which race you are

No, it doesn't say which races you are as race is not a scientific term used for scientifics but by racists and nazis (and you it seems)

What you are talking about is the possibility of knowing the skin color of you ancestor through DNA, which appears to be something possible.

But the a specific skin color is not a race. In fact there is a paper showing that there is the eight genetic variants in four regions of the human genom that influence pigmentation. Those variant are shared by everyone across the planet.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aan8433

This is another evidence that shows that there are no races in the human specie.

kinda a stupid rebuttal anyway cause you admitting to accept race as a existent thing at least on a social lv

No, you don't understand. (and its REALLY IMPORTANT for you to understand)
We are not accepting the notion of race, we are describing a process where people are RACIALIZED by OTHER PEOPLE. In short, a person is "racialized" when another person they "you should have less right because you have a non white skin color)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialization

Please, read and learn.

stop being dishonest and carrot are you against preservation of nature????

You are the dishonest one here. Discussing about walking on grass..

I don't care about nature (at least not like I care about a relative). I care about the human race and other living and sentient organisms. Nature doesn't need us to survive so there is no need to be afraid for it.

trauma and stress are literally go hand and hand

Yes, but we can't equate trauma and stress like you did.

they are not things entirely different to one another

Yes, one is much stronger and more hurtfull than the other.

tbh doubt internet dudes are really gonna inflict any long term trauma like how parental abuse or domestic abuse can

Well.. maybe you should seek the cases of people who killed themself because of harrassment on the internet..

internet comments arent really that big of a deal man

FOr you maybe, for otherss, not so much, we all react differently in front of harrassment. Your comment is ignorant of the reality of victim of harrasment on the internet.

they have the same stances on every issue and loads of people use the word interchangeably

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Again, you don't understand that liberalism is the entry right and therefore, ,liberal gets ALL the value (meritocracy / individuality / Absolute freedom / ultra liberalism / etc.) of the RIGHT side. Meaning that we are opposed to ALL OF THIS.

I don't think you understand (you seems completely blinded at this post, so much that I think that either you are trolling or you have a comprehension problem) that liberalism contains ALL the rightist value but in lower intensity when leftist contain ALL the leftist value but in lower intensity. In short, liberalism and me are like oil and water.

The reason you fail to understand that liberalism and leftism are opposed to eachother is because you completely failed to understand that society just evolved drastically in the space of a decade toward progressism because of social networks. You are just completely stuck in the vision of the right of 20 years ago when liberals were NOT progressive AT ALL.

The reality is that you are failing to see this because the only political sides that didn't evolve is the far right and this is were you get your informations from.

so it just seems to be the same shit outside of you who's extremely biased

Its seems the same.... only for the far right.

Not for everyone.

(not enough people granted, but not everyone)

there are clear physical and genetic differences such as lower immunity to sickle cell amenia and other diseases

Such a difference is not enough to distinct two races.

Races do not exist in the human specie.

Stop repeating far right and racist propaganda and inform yourself.

if it's just solely about the level of consciousnesses then should we kill every dog

every mentally retarded person,every comatose person



level of iq or intelligence should not ever be a factor if we decide if something lives or dies



should we kill your siblings or you if it's deemed that you have lower level of conscious

Careful, you are making very BAD and horrible comparisons, I'm close to the report button. And in most cases here, there is conscience.

What you don't understand, is that for the case of abortion, the concept also needs to include the notions of consent and womens right to own their body. And all the being you are talking about are not a bunch of non conscient skin+electrical activity living inside a woman's body but living people with rights.

An UNWANTED without conscience ball of skin+electrical activity is a parasite.

WOmen owns the rights to their bodies, so they should do as they please until a certain data which can be assigned differently in function of the countries.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

god.

Lord Satan help all of youse.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

so you reject it on a biological level despite the existence of ancestry tests which by your dna can accurately tell you which race you are



kinda a stupid rebuttal anyway cause you admitting to accept race as a existent thing at least on a social lv







there's a difference to accidentally injuring grass as opposed to killing it purposefully


stop being dishonest and carrot are you against preservation of nature????



cause it sounds like you dislike my stance on this






trauma and stress are literally go hand and hand


they are not things entirely different to one another




and yea harassment can lead to stress



tbh doubt internet dudes are really gonna inflict any long term trauma like how parental abuse or domestic abuse can


such abuse can lead to how you view all men,women or whatever long term




internet comments arent really that big of a deal man




they have the same stances on every issue and loads of people use the word interchangeably



so it just seems to be the same shit outside of you who's extremely biased, id love to hear a self professed progressive liberal say me and those leftists are different
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there are clear physical and genetic differences such as lower immunity to sickle cell amenia and other diseases


races are based on more based on biology then social pressure






people with ancestry originating in africa as opposed to europe or americas



it's why south americans are not black, they evolved darker skin tone separately to handle similarlly hot climates
https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/human-skin-color-variation#:~:text=Since strong sun exposure damages,of ultraviolet (UV) rays.


and since they evolved the pigment differently alot of common black features are not present in the south american people


larger lips, larger jaw muscles and more curly hair as examples







if it's just solely about the level of consciousnesses then should we kill every dog

every mentally retarded person,every comatose person



level of iq or intelligence should not ever be a factor if we decide if something lives or dies



should we kill your siblings or you if it's deemed that you have lower level of conscious

race is a human invention. It is a category humans invented to try to organize people with different physical characteristics into boxes.

it is imaginary

 

[Toby D. Dog]

race is a human invention. It is a category humans invented to try to organize people with different physical characteristics into boxes.

it is imaginary

He doesn't understand the difference between genetic groups and race.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

New topic: what types of dating preferences are valid?

I hear a fat activists say that it’s fatphobic to not want to date fat people. I don’t want to date a fat woman, not because I necessarily find them unattractive, but because I kinda need to lose weight and I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who has the same problems as myself.

I feel like it would create a scenario where both people enable each other’s bad behaviors.

 

[Bob74h]

No, it doesn't say which races you are as race is not a scientific term used for scientifics but by racists and nazis (and you it seems)

i think it says like east african or something like that depending ofc on your ancestry



race is barely explored in biology beyond a couple cases already mentioned which indicates genetic differences

What you are talking about is the possibility of knowing the skin color of you ancestor through DNA, which appears to be something possible.

no take a dna test, it literally tells you your exact percentage of dna that includes whatever races you are


they tested a white supremacist once and he had 14 percent Sub-Saharan african dna
https://www.cnn.com/videos/internat...l-white-supremacist-learns-he-is-biracial.cnn



it's the same sorta shit that goes behind dna tests for if the man is a father of a child or not

But the a specific skin color is not a race.

i literally disapproved of that idea in the post you responded too



like you even read what im posting???




i literally said south americans are not african heritage despite both having similar pigment colors

Those variant are shared by everyone across the planet.

bs


the only case an offspring of mine would be darker skin would be if my selected mate was darker skin otherwise the kids would just be light skinned afterall if both parents have the genes for lighter pigmention then they could only ever inherit the lighter skin genes



unless your uncle ruckus and you think re vitiligo is a thing


here's a note for you, it's not real

We are not accepting the notion of race, we are describing a process where people are RACIALIZED by OTHER PEOPLE. In short, a person is "racialized" when another person they "you should have less right because you have a non white skin color)

so when you liberals try to support black community



your pretty much just denying their existence as a separate faction with their own culture,beliefs or whatever



the woke man became so woke that he went around to becoming racist denying the existence of black people itself



the democrats would be proud
https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrj...uth_about_the_democratic_party-transcript.pdf

I care about the human race and other living and sentient organisms. Nature doesn't need us to survive so there is no need to be afraid for it.

i value nature more then humans


the life of a lion matters far more to me then one human


and yes nature does need human help to protect it from other humans who destroy it

Well.. maybe you should seek the cases of people who killed themself because of harrassment on the internet..

the people often had other irl issues going on at the time carrot


family,relationship drama and so on



the internet was just the straw that broke the camel's back.


nobody kills themselves just over the internet, there are almost always other factors at play such as mental illness


amber heard is not really a person who suffers in life, she's a rich bitch like clinton

and a manipulative person such as her would not exactly be mentally unstable



like man, id kill to have amber's position in life and your acting like she has it so rough


ohh im to have it so fucking rough let me dry my tears with these million dollar bills


i dont care about some self entitled rich twat who got supported by thousands of randoms like yourself not to mention the status quo, to compare that to suicide vitchims who had nobody to help them is digusting and yet you invoke their deaths as a means to prove some point like you leftists wouldt enjoy all the white men dying


to you guys that suffering and misery is like a popcorn show just male tears right

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you just say that to keep the appeal of the rebel


it's not the era of ragan anymore


tv sitcoms dont depict the conservative family structure anymore, wake up to reality carrot


times have changed, it's not the era of the right anymore



these guys who disagree on nearly everything is a made up fiction you say to make yourself feel better ig


cause nobody buys your bs here so dont see what other purpose this serves


it's not cause they racist or sexist or far right



it's just cause your full of shit and just plain wrong


biden agrees with you on every fucking issue man, I even listed them off to you before but here we go again


carrot and biden agree on femmism



carrot and biden agree on blm


carrot and biden agree on transgenderism



so on and so fucking forth every social issue that is debated currently you agree



and so since you care about facts right and logic, we should have term to call this human who thinks this way


what if we use the term liberal like yknow how everyone but you do



you can say it's ad poplum but whatever, if everyone who is x way calls themselves y thing


do we stop calling that x thing, y cause it offends one single person on a random forum


ig we should stop calling kids, kids or dogs dogs cause there was probably some fucking retard somewhere who got offended at the idea of using terms to describe things



we dont determine language based on the hurt feelings of 1 person much less one like you who is a clearly biased and b nobody respects or takes seriously

I don't think you understand (you seems completely blinded at this post, so much that I think that either you are trolling or you have a comprehension problem) that liberalism contains ALL the rightist value but in lower intensity when leftist contain ALL the leftist value but in lower intensity. In short, liberalism and me are like oil and water.

it's not blinded


you just using definitions nobody uses and then pretends like you add shit to a conversation



like you take liberal and just give it a static meaning even tho that's not how common people speak nor even the reality



when people own libs as conservatives say nobody thinks ohh he means tucker carlson


and yea you can speak using terminology nobody else has but it's just not communicating with me



and maybe liberal = nazi hitler dude in your home land of france but that's just not how English people use the term


you are on a english forum carrot with basic assumptions in that speaking the same basic language which includes same meanings and yknow figures of speech if you dislike go a french forum that speaks using french meanings



im not french,i dont speak it or give a shit what the terms mean.


use english terminology or leave


you post french videos like anybody here understands one lick of what they say or post french words with only french meanings like confusionism


and ofc you can do that but it would be the same as me posting random german shit expecting you care or understand, it's baffling stupid


long winded rant aside carrot, if everybody calls themselves liberal and they do progressive shit the the term just becomes a leftist one


words evolve you said so yourself carrot but if you wanna deny that ig gay only means happy and has zero association with homosexual men

not saying that literally just using that as a example to show words above

Its seems the same.... only for the far right.

dude anybody you call far right is just considered milquetoast conservatives by every other human who's not a fellow far left liberal like yourself



using this shit as a shaming tactic just dont work cause it's literally applied to everyone not on the leftist dogma in some way


biden despite being right wing to you does not go far right why


almost like he agrees on your politics so you cant disapprove him of entirely afterall when elections come up we know what side you be voting for


the blue one funny that despite you saying he's right wing, you guys still will show up en mass to vote for these evil liberals



like come on, this is all optics


there's no way you buy into this bs especially with you not being completely retarded like you can explain your positions well enough ig and you can debate well enough



ig it's basic internet shit but idk for a guy who debates as much as you, id imagine in your hearts of hearts you gotta know at least some of this shit you push is dumb like even hardcore christans sometimes do this

Stop repeating far right and racist propaganda and inform yourself.

my sources were literal mainstream shit

is the smithsonian


a fucking nazi organization??


also brought up cnn but knowing you im guessing you would actually say that


cause nazi no matter means anything cause leftist kinda took away the meaning of the term so that it no longer has to refer to aryan/german supremacy with nationalism at it's base


instead disagreeing with far left politics now just entails how twitter lefties like yourself use the word kinda eliminates the meaning when you change it to be so broad as to include everybody you hate



it's like those racist black people who redefine racism so they can hate on white people without being considered not woke by their friends


it's not racist, if im to kill white women in the street
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...phia-why-havent-hate-crime-charges-been-filed

privilege plus power man



it's redefining shit solely for the benefit of your group and it's fucking dishonest

And in most cases here, there is conscience.

not in the case of comatose people


it's not the point of contesting abortion, it was just to show how flawed your reason always would be



and listen it's just killing of a unborn child, that's it


you can rephrase it and rationalize it all you want but that's what the act boils down too


and im fine with it


that's gonna offend people but who gives a shit


the kid would ether be put in a orphanage or raised by a mother who has little money who didt want him to begin with, in ether case that's not a good life for the kid


so if right wing dudes really care about kids then they would be fine with abortions or fine expanding the welfare system to help mothers with low income or give orphanages


but they dont wanna fund the mother to have the kid, they just wanna force her to have it and just hopes everything works cause they pro life till it's born then after that then ig fuck it who cares about it

 

[Zenos7]

In this context we are not debating about the beginning of life, but the frontiere we put on the beginning of humanity. Simply because clinging to life would means that we must have the same respect for plants.

I was solely talking about life from biological perspective. And i emphasized that. And i emphasized that because of that what im saying might not be relevant for the abortion debate.

A zygote is just as human biologically. Its a new living human being in the first developmental stage. Now how that impacts your opinion on abortion is a different matter.

Biologicaly yes, it has the POTENTIAL of becoming a FULL human, but until it gets ALL the attribute of an homosapians sapians, its only skin + energy. Consciousness only arise around week 20th, its here that the potential gets real.

The question of abortion is dominant in conservative and far right debate because for them it stopped a human life, but in reality abortion only stops a bunch of skin+ energy to develop INTO a human. its not conscious yet. Therefore it can be stopped. If you disagree with that, then you also need to fight against people who walk on grass, recolt plants or cut trees

Doesnt matter, its human and its living. You can talk about philosophical personhood or whatever, but biologically its fucking human and alive, get over it.

Btw im not anti-abortion. the biologists who say life begins at fertilization are also not necessarily against abortion.

Then its not enough to prove that she is a psychopath.

Bruh i just gave an example. Want me to drop a list?

She had them mate. Not about the rape, but about the agressions. She also had testimonies backing her up, do not forget that

Testimony of her obviously biased sister? While she is on record admittint violence against johnny telling him to not be a baby about it?
Lmao

You do what you want, just be aware of the consequences

What consequences?

Definitions are like species, they evolves with time and environment pressure. So your argument holds no power here. Your definition (which are not even definitions in fact, you just refuse to call a trans woman a woman) are bonkers, they are anti scientific.

Yes, which is why i added something after that, which you conveniently left out.

Hit me up when definitions change so that your fringe version is the default.

Until then, transwomen are men who are transgender with a gender identity that differs from their biological sex. Get over it
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In the first point, Life is life, so if we must prevent life from being stripped away, we must do it for all living things including plants

No, because pro life people value human life above all other life forms, often this is religiously motivated
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What you are talking about is the possibility of knowing the skin color of you ancestor through DNA, which appears to be something possible.

Nah the ancestry dna stuff isnt about skin color. Its about haplogroups. Races dont exist, but human populations can still be isolated enough for us to mske genetic distinctions. Even in medicine there can be differences between "races", like iirc asian people being lactose intolerant more often
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Nature doesn't need us to survive so there is no need to be afraid for it.

Kinda does though, at least because we are fucking up nature. Whole animal species go extinct
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New topic: what types of dating preferences are valid?

I hear a fat activists say that it’s fatphobic to not want to date fat people. I don’t want to date a fat woman, not because I necessarily find them unattractive, but because I kinda need to lose weight and I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who has the same problems as myself.

I feel like it would create a scenario where both people enable each other’s bad behaviors.

Activists like that are retarded and you shouldnt mind what they are saying.

Its fine to have your preferences as long as its about consenting adults

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Activists like that are retarded and you shouldnt mind what they are saying.

Its fine to have your preferences as long as its about consenting adults

you can have your preferences. Just don't be a dick about them.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

https://www.freethink.com/health/cancer-vaccine

It's finally happening?

 

[Bob74h]

god.

Lord Satan help all of youse.

satan is not real



he's a fictional character

New topic: what types of dating preferences are valid?

ideally ones that are inclusive and are heathy


like not preferring abusive people or being so picky that it alienates most people


so really just women dating preferences are not valid

 

[Toby D. Dog]

satan is not real



he's a fictional character

He’s as real as your ability to go through with your death threats.

 

[Bob74h]

He’s as real as your ability to go through with your death threats.

so not at all


nobody going to travel thousands of milies just to kill a random on the internet