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No mate. I would say that there are four stages to free speech:
- Absolutely no free speech : This is when there is only one narrative possible : Mainly in fascist states or states like North Corea
- Restricted freedom of speech : Mainly in semiauthoritarian states such as China or Russia where freedom of speech is possible but controlled
- Normal Freedom of speech : Where you can say anything as long as it isn't harmfull for other in one way or another
- Absolute freedom of speech : Where you can say everything, even thing that can create conflict or hurt others and where your words are deprived from responsibilities.
This is of course not a scientific observation, I'm sure sociologist have a better way to look at that.
What I'm defending is normal freedom of speech when you are defending absolute freedom of speech.
- Absolutely no free speech : This is when there is only one narrative possible : Mainly in fascist states or states like North Corea
- Restricted freedom of speech : Mainly in semiauthoritarian states such as China or Russia where freedom of speech is possible but controlled
- Normal Freedom of speech : Where you can say anything as long as it isn't harmfull for other in one way or another
- Absolute freedom of speech : Where you can say everything, even thing that can create conflict or hurt others and where your words are deprived from responsibilities.
This is of course not a scientific observation, I'm sure sociologist have a better way to look at that.
What I'm defending is normal freedom of speech when you are defending absolute freedom of speech.
How can you ask for a nation to "civilize" itself when said nation is under oppression and colonized ?
Sure mate. Because you, the far right guys, knows better about free speech...
So much that you are in fact trying to prevent me from categorizing the simple principle of free speech because its somehow conflicts with you vision of reality.
Sure mate. Because you, the far right guys, knows better about free speech...
So much that you are in fact trying to prevent me from categorizing the simple principle of free speech because its somehow conflicts with you vision of reality.
I have a really close circle of friends from high school. I don’t get to see them too much but I feel like I understand them better.
A few of them are Jewish and were directly responsible for my eventual interest in the religion. Those people are a lot more nuanced on the conflict and are israel critical.
But the new people I hang out with are kinda sheeple ngl. They’re really nice people, but at least with israel, they seem to just believe everything they’re told and don’t really question mainstream narratives.
A few of them are Jewish and were directly responsible for my eventual interest in the religion. Those people are a lot more nuanced on the conflict and are israel critical.
But the new people I hang out with are kinda sheeple ngl. They’re really nice people, but at least with israel, they seem to just believe everything they’re told and don’t really question mainstream narratives.
Good God Your always crying "Far Right" "Far Right" like it's some boogeyman, Your just fear mongering and you are the boy who cried wolf.
You love lumping anything your against as "Far Right" and other bullshit, Stfu you hypocrite.
I bet you would totally be with the police, knowing how wrong they are here.
You love lumping anything your against as "Far Right" and other bullshit, Stfu you hypocrite.
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I’m reading Theodor Herzl right now. Herzl was basically the founder of modern Zionism.
The guy was a massive racist. In his own words, he wanted to create an outpost of civilized Europe in the barbarian lands of Asia. And he wanted to ally with antisemites to accomplish this goal.
The idea that Palestinians are uncivilized is basically at the core of Zionism. It’s part of how they’re able to justify what they wanted to do. Which is why they targeted third world countries instead of trying to build a Jewish state in parts of Europe that already had a high Ashkenazi population.
The guy was a massive racist. In his own words, he wanted to create an outpost of civilized Europe in the barbarian lands of Asia. And he wanted to ally with antisemites to accomplish this goal.
The idea that Palestinians are uncivilized is basically at the core of Zionism. It’s part of how they’re able to justify what they wanted to do. Which is why they targeted third world countries instead of trying to build a Jewish state in parts of Europe that already had a high Ashkenazi population.
Oh sorry, my bad
I thought this was you talking. I knew it felt weird, it didn't fit with what you are usually saying.
I think I missed the original post lol, I'm sad
No strawmanning here.
You are expressing far right values therefore I call you a far rightist, its as simple as that.
If I can accept being called a woke, why can't you accept being called a far rightist ? Are you not confortable with what you are saying ?
I thought this was you talking. I knew it felt weird, it didn't fit with what you are usually saying.
I think I missed the original post lol, I'm sad
No strawmanning here.
You are expressing far right values therefore I call you a far rightist, its as simple as that.
If I can accept being called a woke, why can't you accept being called a far rightist ? Are you not confortable with what you are saying ?
I've been keeping a close watch on the far right for years now, but I don't know what I'm talking about.. sure 
Well.. if you think the far right is evil.. maybe don't promote far right values
But note that today's conservative are very close to the far right in terms of values in the majority of the countries of the west so.. yeah, even being a conservative wouldn't help you there.
Then you are being censored right now, therefore you don't have freedom of speech if we take your rethoric into account
But no. Freedom of speech is not a switch. its a spectrum. Like I said, in certain country you have 0 freedom of speech while in others, this freedom is only partially censored.
Which is literally called a defense of a genocide.
Well.. if you think the far right is evil.. maybe don't promote far right values
But note that today's conservative are very close to the far right in terms of values in the majority of the countries of the west so.. yeah, even being a conservative wouldn't help you there.
Then you are being censored right now, therefore you don't have freedom of speech if we take your rethoric into account
But no. Freedom of speech is not a switch. its a spectrum. Like I said, in certain country you have 0 freedom of speech while in others, this freedom is only partially censored.
Which is literally called a defense of a genocide.