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Meaning that freedom of speech will also be on a spectrum because of that. One is linked with the other mate :)
Nope. Being alive is a spectrum. Being dead isn't. Maybe it is easier this way.

I'm sure south africa will be glad to be called a woke country
I'm sure the UN are glad to be called a woke organisation

In reality, everything that challenges your point of view is "woke", right ?
Maybe but who cares about South Africa and UN?

And nope. Conservatives also "challenges" my point of view and I don't call them woke about it.
 
Hmmm, a sociologist might answer you more precisly to the question but basically no one and everyone. What is acceptable to say in a society with freedom of speech is basicaly what people in a society deem acceptable to say or not.

In a society with a mainly "normal" freedom of speech, there is not someone who will say what is right or what is wrong to say. It will be a mix of what the people think, their influences (media/power in place) etc. It will be like a needle evolving on a spectrum for different subject.

If IDF says that criticizing the action of Israel is not acceptable then ok, but we need to add that vision to the vision of the entierity of the world on the subject.

When we do that we notice that only some states, some medias/personnalities and Israel is saying that, the rest of the world disagree that it is not acceptable to criticize Israel. Therefore criticizing Israel is perfectly acceptable in our society.

(I'm not making a judment of value here, I'm just stating hat is acceptable for the society in time T and what is not)

Now...

We, the left, knowing that this process can lead toward problematic and hurtfull ideologies becoming acceptable in society, we are trying to add one more parameter to the balance and give it more weight than the rest : Science

We believe that by giving more weight to the conclusions of science (social or hard sciences), we will be able to better prevent problematic and hurtfull ideologies to reign over the field of free speech. Because when we look at scientific researches, we understand that language can become one of tools of oppression when uncontrolled.

This is why in definitive, we believe in free speech, but not absolute free speech.

For example, we known that giving a tribune for far right ideas (and therefore missinformations) in the medias will straighten said ideas. This will displace the overton windows radically to the right and make those ideas more acceptable in the mind of the public. Those ideas will be then more debated and in consequences even more normalized. This is one of the reason why the left explains that we must avoid debatting with the far right in huge public spaces and why we must absolutely avoid inviting far right personnalities in the medias.
Word salad eh.
The fact that you have to hide behind so long winded posts really betrays the fact that you are so stupid and a fascist.

National Socialism aka the Nazi party came from left winged ideas.
The chinese government is a left wing dictatorship with communist flags that also blocks any free speech attempts.
In Italy, Mussolini was born a socialist, again, left wing.

Who is this left wing you talk about?
Who is we.
Your grandeour ideas are just narrcissism, you depict yourself as paragon of virtue when you are a pathetic furry loser that believe to be worth something. My problem was that I spoke with you thinking that you are worth listening to, but like people around you in your real life don't care about your words, I'll put you back in ignore.
 
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なぜそんなに真剣なんだ?あなたが悪い冗談を言ったからといって他人を侮辱する必要があると感じてあなたを傷つけたのは誰ですか。それは悲しいことだ。あなたが、あなたが恋しかった充実感をもたらす人生の意味を見つけられることを願っています。心配しないでください。あなたは必ず本物の仕事を見つけ、本当の友達ができると信じています。そしてウサギフェチを克服できることを祈っています!
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Nope. Being alive is a spectrum. Being dead isn't. Maybe it is easier this way.
Actually, even that is a spectrum. Life is only but a limit that we humans are creating. Life doesn't really exist.

Maybe but who cares about South Africa and UN?

And nope. Conservatives also "challenges" my point of view and I don't call them woke about it.
Yes.. that would be kind of irrelevant.

:kayneshrug: See, even when I give detailed replies you guys don't care.


National Socialism aka the Nazi party came from left winged ideas
Nop. Never did. You are rewriting history and lying here mate.
National socialism comes from far right nationalistic and white supremascist ideologies. This is typically the type of sentence that the far right is using to confuse the debate about what they are.

Either you are using their rethoric willingly or you are falling into their trap. In both case, you are on the losing team.


The chinese government is a left wing dictatorship
Authoritarian and identitarist communism. Which is closer to the far right than the actual left right now

Mussolini was born a socialist, again, left wing
Yes and he betrayed the left by becoming authoritarian, then far right, then fascist.

The left side of the political spectrum. From anarchism to communism to socialism. In short, materialist.

you depict yourself as paragon of virtue
I'm not. Its far from being the case. This is only your point of view mate.

Explaining that some bahaviors are problematic don't make me a saint. I'm not one. I'm just trying to do better and I point out behaviors that could be improved.

My problem was that I spoke with you thinking that you are worth listening to, but like people around you in your real life don't care about your words, I'll put you back in ignore.
No, the problem is that you ask clear questions and you ignore the answers because they don't fit with you anti-woke agenda.


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Actually, even that is a spectrum. Life is only but a limit that we humans are creating. Life doesn't really exist.


Yes.. that would be kind of irrelevant.


:kayneshrug: See, even when I give detailed replies you guys don't care.



Nop. Never did. You are rewriting history and lying here mate.
National socialism comes from far right nationalistic and white supremascist ideologies. This is typically the type of sentence that the far right is using to confuse the debate about what they are.

Either you are using their rethoric willingly or you are falling into their trap. In both case, you are on the losing team.



Authotarian and identitaristcommunism. Which is closer to the far right than the actual left.


Yes and he betrayed the left by becoming authoritarian, then far right, then fascist.


The left side of the political spectrum. From anarchism to communism to socialism. In short, materialist.


I'm not. Its far from being the case. This is only your point of view mate.

Explaining that some bahaviors are problematic don't make me a saint. I'm not one. I'm just trying to do better and I point out behaviors that could be improved.


No, the problem is that you ask clear questions and you ignore the answers because they don't fit with you anti-woke agenda.





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