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From 24 February 2022, which marked the start of the large-scale armed attack by the Russian Federation, to 24 September 2023, OHCHR recorded 27,449 civilian casualties in the country: 9,701 killed and 17,748 injured.
basically russian ukraine war totaled in 10k civilian death but Russia is evil and israel is good , why media doesnt report it like they do with russia
basically russian ukraine war totaled in 10k civilian death but Russia is evil and israel is good , why media doesnt report it like they do with russia
No no, its very simple in that case.
Israel being a colonizing and oppressing states far right (and somewhat cryptofascist) state, defending the politics of that governement makes thee Right wing if not worst.
1. Media don't report the genocide is Gaza properly
2. This must be reported as a crime against humanity because Israel caused twice more death in 5 times less time with a dezhumanization process added to that and a clear ethnical cleansing process. Which makes these attack completely different in nature.
Israel being a colonizing and oppressing states far right (and somewhat cryptofascist) state, defending the politics of that governement makes thee Right wing if not worst.
1. Media don't report the genocide is Gaza properly
2. This must be reported as a crime against humanity because Israel caused twice more death in 5 times less time with a dezhumanization process added to that and a clear ethnical cleansing process. Which makes these attack completely different in nature.
Doesnt mean other politicians cant also be corrupt though
Sure, but i have fairly diverse opinions on diverse issues. With topic A i might lean left while on topic B i might lean right. Discussing with you means im gonna get called right wing, discussing with right wingers results in me being left wing or libtard or whatever. And I dont care about the labels because i dont care about ideology. I just judge shit on a case by case basis
There is. I dont know of a country that has absolute freedom of speech. Even in the USA there are limits to speech
So it applies to corrupt leftwing politicians as well?
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Sure, but i have fairly diverse opinions on diverse issues. With topic A i might lean left while on topic B i might lean right. Discussing with you means im gonna get called right wing, discussing with right wingers results in me being left wing or libtard or whatever. And I dont care about the labels because i dont care about ideology. I just judge shit on a case by case basis
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There is. I dont know of a country that has absolute freedom of speech. Even in the USA there are limits to speech
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No where there I said "only far right" 
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If there is one thing you need to understand about politic, is that political visions that constituates the majorities of the conflicts in politic are usually regrouped in two main groups.. the reason is not because someone said one day that their should be a right and a left wing, its because under that layer of conflict there are sets of values that are foundamentaly opposed.
There is two big sets :
1 - People who think humans can be or are in control of the world
2 - People who think humans are the result of the world
In category 1, you will find :
- Individualistic values
- Values that consider ultimate freedom as a goal
- All the values that consider that we can rise to greatness by the simple acts of action and will
- All the values that are conservative and that tries to take control over the evolutions of society
- All the liberal values about equality and justice
- You will often find here those in power
Etc
In category 2, you will find:
- All very progressive value
- Values that consider that we are the result of our experience, our environment and our genes
- Values that oncisder that we need to have a materialist approach to fight oppressions
- Social values in general
- You will often find here those who fight the power
Etc
The reality is that there is not 10 groups, there is only two because those values have things in common.
Not caring about those value means not caring about life itself. That's why there is no such thing as apolitical people and why most apolitical are usually rightist that ignore themself
There is two big sets :
1 - People who think humans can be or are in control of the world
2 - People who think humans are the result of the world
In category 1, you will find :
- Individualistic values
- Values that consider ultimate freedom as a goal
- All the values that consider that we can rise to greatness by the simple acts of action and will
- All the values that are conservative and that tries to take control over the evolutions of society
- All the liberal values about equality and justice
- You will often find here those in power
Etc
In category 2, you will find:
- All very progressive value
- Values that consider that we are the result of our experience, our environment and our genes
- Values that oncisder that we need to have a materialist approach to fight oppressions
- Social values in general
- You will often find here those who fight the power
Etc
The reality is that there is not 10 groups, there is only two because those values have things in common.
Not caring about those value means not caring about life itself. That's why there is no such thing as apolitical people and why most apolitical are usually rightist that ignore themself
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Nothing against your opinion. I don't share it.
Usually the ones in power are the ones capable of doing corruption but yeah you are right. Here in Brazil something similar happened. The party in power that was left wing was arrested for corruption but when the investigations got into the party of center (middle between left and right don't know if you guys call it like this) them investigations were favoring them to not get arrested.
Not so sure about it. For what I say the constitution itself allows freedom of speech in US but you have crimes like falsely accussing someone of a crime. You still have the freedom to do so.
All Hamas responsability for using human shield.
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Usually the ones in power are the ones capable of doing corruption but yeah you are right. Here in Brazil something similar happened. The party in power that was left wing was arrested for corruption but when the investigations got into the party of center (middle between left and right don't know if you guys call it like this) them investigations were favoring them to not get arrested.
Not so sure about it. For what I say the constitution itself allows freedom of speech in US but you have crimes like falsely accussing someone of a crime. You still have the freedom to do so.
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All Hamas responsability for using human shield.
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First, this is most likely wrong. The defense of Hamas is simply how anyone would create a resistance in such a small space. So this argument is completely fallacious.
Second, its doubly fallacious because your argumentation is similar to someone saying that because a man holds a woman in hostage, therefore its legitimate to kill both of them as an act of defense. Its simply illogical and completely sociopathic.
There is absolutely no logic to your argumentation beside the repetition of the propaganda of a cryptofascist and far right state.
Your defense of a literal genocide will be remembered.
Not by me.... But by you. Trust me on that. Its not too late to admit that you are wrong.
Second, its doubly fallacious because your argumentation is similar to someone saying that because a man holds a woman in hostage, therefore its legitimate to kill both of them as an act of defense. Its simply illogical and completely sociopathic.
There is absolutely no logic to your argumentation beside the repetition of the propaganda of a cryptofascist and far right state.
Your defense of a literal genocide will be remembered.
Not by me.... But by you. Trust me on that. Its not too late to admit that you are wrong.
Can I get empty insults for 50.
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I’ve never defended Hamas retard. I’ve taken the side of the civilian population. If you think Hamas is a terrorist group then by that logic the IDF is too. But you wouldn’t know anything about that since you’ve proven to be completely and utterly ignorant about the facts on the ground.
