Powers & Abilities Kid would have been too overpowered if Oda gave him acoc in Wano, that's why he's delaying it for Elbaf

#61
During what time?

As far as I remember, we don’t know when he lost his arm. What if it’s a month before the Strawhats come into the new world?

Anyway, they may well have lost, heavily doubt they’d have had limbs lopped off though.
lol, Guess I need to ask this question again. When did Kidd lose his arm?

Kid doesn’t have any feats, the Jiki Jiki fruit does.
Cope. Enma is the only weapon to ever give Kaido a scar lol.

I did, are you blind? Does this explain your love for Kid?

I am very sorry. I did not mean to mock the visually impaired.
Anything I wrote there that is false?

A massive powerup…. After Zoro had proven…. against top tiers….. that he was stronger ….. than Law and Kid
He didn't prove anything. He went all out, scratched Kaido and then to fight someone on his level...King.

Meanwhile Kidd/Law were able to defeat a yonko. A feat zoro fans wish he had.

Strange that all these attacks come after Law hits her first and Law even complains about it lol.
Why didn't she burn life span after law's attacks?

Why did she try to dodge punk corna dio?

And G5 Luffy was fighting Lucci in the same arc lol. I literally don’t care in the slightest about Zoro vs Lucci, it‘s blatantly just giving Zoro something to do in the arc. Nowhere near as embarrassing as Kid’s demolition job.
And who is luffy fighting now? Lmao

He’s done fighting the Yonko, Shanks has finished him in the race for the PK.

There’s no set up for him fighting any Admiral

And Kid might be one of five characters to fight a Gorosei lmao. Might. I‘m not overly convinced. The RA, the Strawhats and the Ds all have more reason to.
Easy bookmark.

Again, Luffy fought Lucci, why would you think this bothers me?

There’s nothing to be impressed about with Kid fighting and losing to top tiers.
Just saying Kidd doesn't fight characters on that level. Its a clear pattern Oda is portraying.

Assign is trash, it was the most hysterically unimpressive Awakening that we have seen. He used it and the reaction was “shouldn’t that be something he can do anyway?”

And there’s no reason it will do any more to Zoro than it will any other top tier. What’s so special about Assign and ACoC? Every top tier has their thing.
Do you understand how the ability works?

It left big mom completely immobilized. And in combination with punk crash forced her to burn lifespan.



Law was unable to move big mom with shambles because of her Haki.

Meanwhile Kidd was directly able to affect big mom with his magnetism and assign.

Zoro has absolutely no counter to it.
 
#62
lol, Guess I need to ask this question again. When did Kidd lose his arm?


Cope. Enma is the only weapon to ever give Kaido a scar lol.



Anything I wrote there that is false?



He didn't prove anything. He went all out, scratched Kaido and then to fight someone on his level...King.

Meanwhile Kidd/Law were able to defeat a yonko. A feat zoro fans wish he had.



Why didn't she burn life span after law's attacks?

Why did she try to dodge punk corna dio?



And who is luffy fighting now? Lmao



Easy bookmark.



Just saying Kidd doesn't fight characters on that level. Its a clear pattern Oda is portraying.



Do you understand how the ability works?

It left big mom completely immobilized. And in combination with punk crash forced her to burn lifespan.



Law was unable to move big mom with shambles because of her Haki.

Meanwhile Kidd was directly able to affect big mom with his magnetism and assign.

Zoro has absolutely no counter to it.
Zoro one shots kidd tbh
No strong haki
0 speed feats
Shit durability and endurance
 
#65
Kid will be needed in endgame as one of the final war fighter.

It is pretty obvious that the final fights will include admirals, the Gorosei and Imu. The Gorosei are to much for strawhats beside Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Which means, luffy will be busy with Imu, Zoro and Sanji with 2 of the Gorosei, which makes 3 remaining fights against the Gorosei. One of them belongs to Kid.
Luffy vs Imu
Zoro, Sanji, Kid, Law, and Sabo vs Gorosei
 
#67
The track records speaks for itself
Yeah because getting 0.33 shotted by a Yonko using ACoC = blocking the strongest attack in the series and then resisting an attack from another Yonko who is also using ACoC.
And let's not forget when 30 broken bones Zoro challenged Kaido head on resulting on Kaido getting a scar = Shanks challenging Kidd head on and he got the cockroach treatment.
It's everything sooo similar

A set of memes to make you laugh (cry tho)
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/wv2r3czzoz761.png
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/vus0fzsopepa1.jpg
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#70
Nah it's less than an one shot.
Remember Shanks' slice had to go through the railgun and Killer before finally hitting Kidd.
That's like a 0.33 shot or somn
Imagine what Zoro would do to him if he hit him with a straight ACoA or ACoA+ACoC hit without anyone helping... He'd die instantly.
The copium is hella funny. Zoro literally took a ACoC TB to the body without anyone shielding and he was still conscious (remember that he took Hakai and several other hits prior to that) and a fresh Kidd was almost killed by a single attack despite having both killer and rail gun to protect him. How can you be so trash lmao. Lost against the vice-captain and lost against the Captain.. if he comes back the Janitor might be the one to one shot him next
 
#72
The copium is hella funny. Zoro literally took a ACoC TB to the body without anyone shielding and he was still conscious (remember that he took Hakai and several other hits prior to that) and a fresh Kidd was almost killed by a single attack despite having both killer and rail gun to protect him. How can you be so trash lmao. Lost against the vice-captain and lost against the Captain.. if he comes back the Janitor might be the one to one shot him next
I don't know how they can literally see Law mention that Zoro's whole skeleton should be broken up and see Shanks literally confirming that Midd was fresh before he laid wood on him and think "Yeah Midd has better endurance and stamina than him"
Lmfao, clowns
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Unfortunately Zoro isn’t as strong as Shanks
You think he doesn't have at least one move that can simulate 0.33 of Divine Departure? Seriously?
 
#73
Yeah because getting 0.33 shotted by a Yonko using ACoC = blocking the strongest attack in the series and then resisting an attack from another Yonko who is also using ACoC.
And let's not forget when 30 broken bones Zoro challenged Kaido head on resulting on Kaido getting a scar = Shanks challenging Kidd head on and he got the cockroach treatment.
It's everything sooo similar

A set of memes to make you laugh (cry tho)
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/wv2r3czzoz761.png
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/vus0fzsopepa1.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/kid-after-his-fight-with-shanks-v0-4zdp2ebm6oka1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=50110d7cfe3096cc3e38fcdbc35c5d7ff74ce28e
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:


 
#75
no, luffy was yonko one shot material before learning ryou and acoc, so those powerups werent going to make him too strong because he was so weak before. Same with zoro who was only yc3 level. Kid is far above yc1 without those powerups, if he had got them in wano it would have logically made him too strong
 
#76
Alright, I'm not going to comment on any power levels or haki debates presented here or any of the "Oda did this or that" type shenanigans, but I think it's important to pause for a moment.

First, I do feel bad for how Oda has treated Kidd; imo, it's a huge missed opportunity on his part. I really wanted to see the guy become a huge foil to Luffy, besides just Blackbeard. He has a cool design, a powerful fruit, and an attitude. I do understand that just because he has Conquerors Haki, it doesn't mean it's an automatic ticket to success. Part of me is rooting for the idea that he swallows some humble pie and actually works on himself instead of picking every fight out there. A better, healthier mindset and some wisdom would do much good for him.

At this point, two things are clear:

1) Either Kidd is going to make one of the biggest comebacks in the series, and those who invested in his stocks are going to be FEASTING.
2) Or Kidd will be a cautionary tale, an example of a hotheaded rookie who bit off more than he could chew and paid the price for it.
Oda gave horns with tits acoc. Kidd deserves it too.
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"KIDD would be too powerful if Oda gave AdCoC"

Any character would be too powerful if given adcoc lmao 🤡🤡
Except horns with tits.
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Yeah because getting 0.33 shotted by a Yonko using ACoC = blocking the strongest attack in the series and then resisting an attack from another Yonko who is also using ACoC.
And let's not forget when 30 broken bones Zoro challenged Kaido head on resulting on Kaido getting a scar = Shanks challenging Kidd head on and he got the cockroach treatment.
It's everything sooo similar

A set of memes to make you laugh (cry tho)
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/wv2r3czzoz761.png
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://i.redd.it/vus0fzsopepa1.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/kid-after-his-fight-with-shanks-v0-4zdp2ebm6oka1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=50110d7cfe3096cc3e38fcdbc35c5d7ff74ce28e
Stop it:peperain:
 
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#79
lol, Guess I need to ask this question again. When did Kidd lose his arm?
Guess you need to answer the question.

When did Kid lose his arm.


Cope. Enma is the only weapon to ever give Kaido a scar lol.
Reality, Enma is one of four weapons to give Kaido a scar, and it’s the person who uses the swords that matter, not the swords themselves


Anything I wrote there that is false?
Just about all of it, you seem to have seen Kaido giggling and laughing somehow.


He didn't prove anything. He went all out, scratched Kaido and then to fight someone on his level...King.
Lmao, he proved that without KoH he was stronger than Kid and Law

Kid and Law then showed Awakening

Zoro got KoH

Zoro is still stronger than Kid and Law

Meanwhile Kidd/Law were able to defeat a yonko. A feat zoro fans wish he had.
It was a ring out in a 2 vs 1 featuring bombs. They didn’t knock her out, they tossed her off the island.

Zoro, Law, Kid and Killer nearly accomplished the exact same feat on the rooftop when Zoro‘s skeleton was made of jelly.

I wish Zoro had the feats Luffy got against Kaido, I don’t care about Kid and Law’s technical knockout against an outnumbered weaker foe lmao.

Kid and Law would be hopeless against King fyi, as far stronger characters like Luffy and Blackbeard’s struggles with a Lunarian have shown.


Why didn't she burn life span after law's attacks?
Kid’s attacks come literally seconds after Law’s, she didn’t have time.


Why did she try to dodge punk corna dio?
Cause it would hurt her?

Everyone on the rooftop can hurt Big Mom and that includes Killer, it’s nothing special.


And who is luffy fighting now? Lmao
Who cares?

Luffy and Zoro are main characters, they get far more fights than Kid.

Fact is, Dressrosa Zoro did better against an Admiral than Kid did against Shanks lol. I don’t really care about Zoro vs Fujitora but hey, it’s a fight against a top tier and that’s apparently all that matter to you.

A brief unimportant fight with Lucci and the Seraphim is nowhere near as embarrassing as Kid being absolutely demolished by Shanks.


Sure, sure

What Yonko is going to fight and beat, Buggy? Shanks has annihilated him, Blackbeard has nothing to do with him, he’s Luffy‘s tsundere cheerleader.

What Admiral is he set up to beat? I don’t think we’ve ever even seen him and a Marine interact.

And if it’s a Gorosei, why is that a huge deal when it’s only one of five? If he beats one, Zoro certainly will.

Just saying Kidd doesn't fight characters on that level. Its a clear pattern Oda is portraying
Apart from the fight with a Sweet Commander (likely Snack) and Beckman, you mean? Or the brief bout with Apoo?

There’s no pattern.


Do you understand how the ability works?
Yes.

What I want to know is why you somehow think that it’s some huge gamechanger. Every character has strong attacks. Kid’s dead if he gets hit by Dragon Damnation or Ashura.

There’s nothing special about Assigning and Punk Crash. It didn’t come close to beating Big Mom. It wouldn’t beat any top tier.
 
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