That fact is that nothing changed.

Oda only stopped the fights for Kuma's flashback and even though Saturn and Kuma entered Egghead, it still doesn't change anything. Kuma will be stomped by Saturn and Saturn will be Luffy bussiness.

Kizaru role still unknow
 

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Kuma imo will die during this arc, Saturn might also die.

Kizaru dying as well would be surprising but for some reason I can maybe see Oda do it.
It's the final saga, I better hope he starts killing people and leaving them dead. He introduced cloning this arc... please don't bring in young clones of WB or Ace or some shit.
 
Kizaru has been following order for over 30 years, calling himself a corporate slave. But he is conflicted, that is a fact.
As much as I ain't fan of him twerking for nika, this page is a clear foreshadowing of the future.


He needs a trigger to make him switch, though.
I think that Saturn has to be defeated for him to trigger that switch

So maybe before that, he may still obey to Saturn
 
That fact is that nothing changed.

Oda only stopped the fights for Kuma's flashback and even though Saturn and Kuma entered Egghead, it still doesn't change anything. Kuma will be stomped by Saturn and Saturn will be Luffy bussiness.

Kizaru role still unknow
Zoro has been fighting Lucci for 3 months

Kuma is just there to witness Nika with Bonney so Oda can make it hit harder

Now, I hope that Oda properly writes Kizaru and that we get to witness greatness from him, no matter what he does
 
I think that Saturn has to be defeated for him to trigger that switch

So maybe before that, he may still obey to Saturn
Yeah, it could happen at the end of the arc. Til now he has been following orders without feelings.
Personally I think this arc is about Kizaru finding his justice, as he himself doesn't know what his justice is, I saw japanese fans talking about it on twitter.
 
One possibility that I think isn't being mentioned enough is that

Luffy and Kizaru fight BUT they're just pretending the whole time with the collateral of their "fight" freeing people and getting in the way of Saturn
Like when Kizaru gave Luffy food he said something like "here me out bro, I've got a plan" or some shit
I can definitely see that happen.
 
Are there still people that believe Saturn isn't getting defeated in this arc? The flashback made it the only certain thing in the arc IMO
The seraphim are the one thing that throws it off for me.

Since they're the whole reason he's here in the first place and I cant see the government not getting them.

Especially since seraphim literally means "angels closest to god/the gods"
 
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