Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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too many people have turned the luffy kizaru bout as a contest of who got up first nd choosing to forget kizaru is down because he got his noggin crammed in while luffy is down because he cant deal with his powerup efficiently.


calling this a win for kizaru or admirals is embarrassing.
Luffy is down because his fight with Kizaru pushed him to the limit of Gear 5.

Acting like this is just luffy timing out after we’ve seen that luffy timing out of gear 5 doesn’t knock him to the ground like it did against Kizaru.
 
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We have the Kizaru and Kiado fights to show that luffy can do more thanks to ACoC or even G5 moves .
Nomral haki don't mean shit now thanks ACoC power up .
Next time luffy fight some fodder you going to say he going all out thanks to that line when we know he not power wise ?
Why didn't luffy simply used G2 which has no drawbacks right now?
Even with g4 luffy would have struggled with Lucci.
 
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its the opposite
they are reserved because they have potential . according to vegapunk they should grow and gain the experience of the original.
They are purposefully kept out of major picture till they can play a key role .
But given they are in the island and sitting in a bubble is wasted potential in this arc.
 
Luffy is down because his fight with Kizaru pushed him to the limit of Gear 5.

Acting like this is just luffy timing out after we’ve seen that luffy timing out of gear 5 doesn’t knock him to the ground like it did against Kizaru.
Yes, taking zero damage from Kizaru pushed him to his limits, sure sure.

Luffy passed out at the end of his fight with Kaido since he used G5 twice, just like he's used G5 twice in Egghead.
 
Luffy is down because his fight with Kizaru pushed him to the limit of Gear 5.

Acting like this is just luffy timing out after we’ve seen that luffy timing out of gear 5 doesn’t knock him to the ground like it did against Kizaru.
exactly in power scaling wwe need to be fair and examine everything . Luffy is out of gear 5 because kizaru lasted the whole form . And its a kizaru feat .
 

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too many people have turned the luffy kizaru bout as a contest of who got up first nd choosing to forget kizaru is down because he got his noggin crammed in while luffy is down because he cant deal with his powerup efficiently.


calling this a win for kizaru or admirals is embarrassing.
It's a win for neither. Plot nerfed both of them so that they can both go down at the same time in order for Saturn to look threatening.

Luffy handicap was that he didn't use ACOC until the end. Kizaru's handicap was that he wasn't trying to fight Luffy and instead, looked for openings to run and get Vegapunk. He ran away twice and with the 3rd encounter, was waiting for Luffy to reach his limit with G5.
 
thats just how it work at the end of the day its always who is standing in the end that win . Because he can simply kill the one on the ground . Thats how a real fight work . Luffy was never able to finish kizaru since he was forced out of gear 5 after his big attack but without food he was dead so luffy needed outside help and kizaru got up by himself call it a draw if you want but in reality Kizaru won this one .
it is no draw , its not a win, its inconclusive .


you can operate by that technicality
the fact that kizaru really isnt responsible for luffy to be in that state rather than luffy himself rubbishes any of that.


luffy was damn near lifeless as well after fighting lucci , imagine folks watching that bout and calling it an extreme diff fight because of the state luffy was left in afterwards. you lot kill me
 
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