Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion

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it is no draw , its not a win, its inconclusive .


you can operate by that technicality
the fact that kizaru really isnt responsible for luffy to be in that state rather than luffy himself rubbishes any of that.


luffy was damn near lifeless as well after fighting lucci , imagine folks watching that bout and calling it an extreme diff fight because of the state luffy was left in afterwards. you lot kill me
He wasnt otugh t. Luffy after downing lucci exited himself gear 5 and was a old man for 38 seconds when lucci wa sback luffy was shown with abig smile in full shape.
Luffy clearly won that clash.
But kizaru it was a different story .
Kizaru outlasted luffy gear 4 and 5 againts lucci luffy exited after downing him with an attack, with kizaru luffy was at his limit and threw a last attck to down kizaru but he was out of it himself was forced to exit gear 5 and was out completely until someone gave him food .
The reason why I gave kizaru the win but not the draw to lucci is because kizaru out lasted gear 5 not lucci .
 
It's a win for neither. Plot nerfed both of them so that they can both go down at the same time in order for Saturn to look threatening.

Luffy handicap was that he didn't use ACOC until the end. Kizaru's handicap was that he wasn't trying to fight Luffy and instead, looked for openings to run and get Vegapunk. He ran away twice and with the 3rd encounter, was waiting for Luffy to reach his limit with G5.
1000%
honestly it doesnt really feel like a fight
the lack of motivation from either side to really take the other down
makes this entire fight as useful as some of the clashes we saw in marineford .
 
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