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Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1104 Spoilers Discussion
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The one that started tagging others is you, don't project now. Let's get back to the topic.
But he has and he always will receive equal portrayal and feats. Have you missed the last arc were Sanji took down Kings nigh equal?
Sanji will clash with Kizaru. He already clashed with Saturn. Zoro clashed with neither but he got the pet cat in an extreme diff.
Trying to change the topic again. Like I said you started tagging others and run away.
Sanji clashing with both main antagonists of this arc directly proves his superiority over Zoro. The Admirals already have the feats with guys above Sanji, they cannot get anything out of the clash but Sanji can prove that he is > Zoro.
When was the last time Midhawk or Zoro was relevant in the story?
Every single Admiral is receiving major focus, hell even fucking Koby is more important than that ex warlord.
You're done.
But he has and he always will receive equal portrayal and feats. Have you missed the last arc were Sanji took down Kings nigh equal?
Sanji will clash with Kizaru. He already clashed with Saturn. Zoro clashed with neither but he got the pet cat in an extreme diff.
Trying to change the topic again. Like I said you started tagging others and run away.
Sanji clashing with both main antagonists of this arc directly proves his superiority over Zoro. The Admirals already have the feats with guys above Sanji, they cannot get anything out of the clash but Sanji can prove that he is > Zoro.
When was the last time Midhawk or Zoro was relevant in the story?
Every single Admiral is receiving major focus, hell even fucking Koby is more important than that ex warlord.
You're done.
I'm not gonna bother with your bullshit cope
The latrines have no feats except vs each other which isn't scalable
Kuzan was exposed vs old garp and akainu vs a near dead no haki wb
And kizaru was one shot by luffy
What ever sanji does doesn't change that he can't even do what roof zoro did vs kaido who at this point solos the admirals
The latrines have no feats except vs each other which isn't scalable
Kuzan was exposed vs old garp and akainu vs a near dead no haki wb
And kizaru was one shot by luffy
What ever sanji does doesn't change that he can't even do what roof zoro did vs kaido who at this point solos the admirals
Good post. Imo a lot of this chapter exemplified the point Ive been trying to make about Saturn and Kizaru.
Saturn, to this very chapter, just seems like an unstoppable tank. At this point, he doesnt even seem to complement Luffy's fighting style at all, and if Kizaru at his speed got hit by Luffy, I cant see Saturn doing much different UNLESS he shows something very different about his powers (hybrid and an actual fighting style).
This chapter hasnt changed my perception that Saturn still feels like a wider enemy that genuinely isnt meant to fall here. I get how the narrative works, he SHOULD fall here based on Bonney and Kuma's plight with him, but he currently has a very "raid bossy" type approach that I personally see only 1 of 2 things happening to him:
- The Robot comes in and stalls him, at the same time Luffy jumps in and stops Kizaru again from killing VP.
- He is held back, otherwise, by plot. He sends the buster call in and just goes back to Human form and lets them do his dirty work.
When you look at this chapter objectively, Saturn is right near Kuma and Kizaru near Vegapunk. Sanji can still protect Kuma, while Vegapunk has zero protection now that Franky was kicked out of the way (unless he gets back up).
Sure any scenario can lead someone else to intervening, but I personally think that
- the Vice Admirals we havent seen will start attacking due to the Buster Call, thereby distracting Sanji, Franky and whomever else.
- Saturn will attempt to kill Kuma before Atlas saves him (unless this chapter shows Atlas moving Kuma idk)
- Kizaru attempting to kill VP
- Luffy jumping back in with the Robot and stopping both sides, somehow
Imo, Shaka (alive) is the one helping Luffy, and was the only other person who discussed the Robot. Thus its possible that within these next few chapters, we'll get an explanation on that and what Luffy can do with it.
Lots of what ifs for now, but its how I feel about the situation. Zoro isnt around and unless he offscreened Lucci, he's not stopping Kizaru. Sanji is dealing with Saturn until he's not, so not Kizaru. Meaning the only person left available is Luffy and this Robot that seemingly will get activated.
Tldr: Luffy cant "just" fight Saturn if theres no one to deal with Kizaru. Explaining this away with Sanji or Zoro isnt good enough because neither person is fighting Kizaru at this time, nor has been hinted to be.
Saturn, to this very chapter, just seems like an unstoppable tank. At this point, he doesnt even seem to complement Luffy's fighting style at all, and if Kizaru at his speed got hit by Luffy, I cant see Saturn doing much different UNLESS he shows something very different about his powers (hybrid and an actual fighting style).
This chapter hasnt changed my perception that Saturn still feels like a wider enemy that genuinely isnt meant to fall here. I get how the narrative works, he SHOULD fall here based on Bonney and Kuma's plight with him, but he currently has a very "raid bossy" type approach that I personally see only 1 of 2 things happening to him:
- The Robot comes in and stalls him, at the same time Luffy jumps in and stops Kizaru again from killing VP.
- He is held back, otherwise, by plot. He sends the buster call in and just goes back to Human form and lets them do his dirty work.
When you look at this chapter objectively, Saturn is right near Kuma and Kizaru near Vegapunk. Sanji can still protect Kuma, while Vegapunk has zero protection now that Franky was kicked out of the way (unless he gets back up).
Sure any scenario can lead someone else to intervening, but I personally think that
- the Vice Admirals we havent seen will start attacking due to the Buster Call, thereby distracting Sanji, Franky and whomever else.
- Saturn will attempt to kill Kuma before Atlas saves him (unless this chapter shows Atlas moving Kuma idk)
- Kizaru attempting to kill VP
- Luffy jumping back in with the Robot and stopping both sides, somehow
Imo, Shaka (alive) is the one helping Luffy, and was the only other person who discussed the Robot. Thus its possible that within these next few chapters, we'll get an explanation on that and what Luffy can do with it.
Lots of what ifs for now, but its how I feel about the situation. Zoro isnt around and unless he offscreened Lucci, he's not stopping Kizaru. Sanji is dealing with Saturn until he's not, so not Kizaru. Meaning the only person left available is Luffy and this Robot that seemingly will get activated.
Tldr: Luffy cant "just" fight Saturn if theres no one to deal with Kizaru. Explaining this away with Sanji or Zoro isnt good enough because neither person is fighting Kizaru at this time, nor has been hinted to be.
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