Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

[zenox]

ye lucci also won against luffy

lucci got back to good health before luffy did

thus lucci won , am i right admiral bros ?

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

People aren't ready for Kizarus awakening the one piece universe will not be the same

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

If you wanna do the boxing match shit then alright.
Let's say they were in the ring. A huge ring. Like the Dark Tournament ring from YYH.
Is there any reason, any reason at all, for Luffy to not use ACoA and ACoC from the jump?
It's not taxing. It massively boosts his power. It's a net positive.
Yet in the real fight, he never used ACoC until the very end, and didn't use ACoA in G5 though he used it in Snakeman.
It is painfully obvious that Oda purposefully stopped him from using those purely to make it easier for Kizaru to survive and to drag out the fight, because nobody wanted to see him just get one shot and beat up, this isn't a Luffy vs Blueno kind of fight.

ACoC was a way to take Luffy around Kaido's level. After that it basically stopped being relevant, even Meme didn't care about using it.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

People like you that pretend to be able to magically mind read Oda are so sad man.

Go easy on him, he’s just today realizing something Rayleigh told us in 2010

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

ye lucci also won against luffy

lucci got back to good health before luffy did

thus lucci won , am i right admiral bros ?

Those panels show Luffy and Lucci perfectly fine while Kizaru is up and at em with Luffy vanishing like a hawk :queenhear:

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

ACoC was a way to take Luffy around Kaido's level. After that it basically stopped being relevant, even Meme didn't care about using it.

The thing is he still didn't use it against Kizaru though.
Like why not have him use it against him until the last minute? Doesn't make sense unless it would put him on a completely higher level... Oh wait, it does

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

lucci got back to good health before luffy dius lucci won , am i right admiral bros ?

Yes bro.

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The thing is he still didn't use it against Kizaru though.
Like why not have him use it against him until the last minute? Doesn't make sense unless it would put him on a completely higher level... Oh wait, it does

Still it doesn't make sense to nerf yourself to oblivion. He was spamming it in Wano.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Yonkou bros went from Luffy "one shotting kizaru" to clutching at straws about Lucci

 

[zenox]

egghead really destroyed all the agendas lol

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

ye lucci also won against luffy

lucci got back to good health before luffy did

thus lucci won , am i right admiral bros ?

No, because Lucci didn’t make Luffy hit Gear 5’s time limit.

If Luffy wanted to hit Lucci with an attack after Dawn Rocket, he easily could have. Against Kizaru, Luffy was at his limit.

I swear, do you guys actually not understand something this fucking basic or are you intentionally acting like morons.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Ok that's cute, but do you have any counterpoints related to the actual thread?

You should know the deal by now Kinyagi. The usual suspects will always be changing goalposts and going off on tangents when they can’t actually address the topic at hand.

It’s not like anything that happens long after this point is going to change what’s already happened (which is terrible btw. Luffy shouldn’t need food at all, but you guys can go off I guess. It’s like Oda is feeding your agenda)

 

[M944]

It is, under both boxing and MMA rules this is a win for Kizaru.

Stamina is a battle trait just like strength, speed, durability, AP/DC, etc

How will Kizaru run away in a MMA or boxing fight ?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

How will Kizaru run away in a MMA or boxing fight ?

By being slick, jabbing, and weaving

 

[BlackLegFring]

Luffy's not a solid top-tier yet. What good is it to knock down your opponents if you pass out afterwards and they stand back up before you do? Unless you kill them like Kaido, of course.

That’s the problem. He should be a top tier. He was splitting the sky with Kaido in base. His gears should be a bit above that, like Big Mom sacrificing a year of her life or Kaido amped with alcohol.
Oda has done him dirty.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I’m convinced a number of WG users don’t actually read the series and just skim through the spoilers.

 

[zenox]

No, because Lucci didn’t make Luffy hit Gear 5’s time limit.

and luffy didnt make lucci go unconscious either

If Luffy wanted to hit Lucci with an attack after Dawn Rocket, he easily could have. Against Kizaru, Luffy was at his limit.

in the EXACCCT scenario , luffy could have hit his heart beat again and go for another round of gear5 against kizaru
We have seen this happen before so its not impossible

i can easily counter these points cause of stupid the entire topic is

I swear, do you guys actually not understand something this fucking basic or are you intentionally acting like morons.

we are acting in a similar way to how the people of this thread are

which is simply going against logic and what oda is trying to write

 

[BlackLegFring]

I’m convinced a number of WG users don’t actually read the series and just skim through the spoilers.

I think that’s a bit ungenerous. I believe that they do read the story and even understand such simple things (they’re likely grown men after all)…but they intentionally pretend otherwise because they hate a fictional character.
It is very bizarre.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

in the EXACCCT scenario , luffy could have hit his heart beat again and go for another round of gear5 against kizaru
We have seen this happen before so its not impossible

Really? Luffy isn’t going to be able to pray to Pedro this time because the minks have nothing against Kizaru.

If Luffy could get up he wouldn’t be needing food and getting carried off he would have, anything else is cope.

and luffy didnt make lucci go unconscious either

Literally irrelevant. Who the fuck cares, that’s not even relevant since the deciding factor is LUFFY’S ability to continue not his opponents.

which is simply going against logic and what oda is trying to write

Shut the fuck up. You don’t know what Oda is thinking. I DONT KNOW WHAT ODA IS THINKING EITHER.

Get your head out of your fucking ass.

If I had to guess it’s pretty clear Oda is going for a draw, but you know what’s funny? IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER LMFAOOO

Because authorial intent doesn’t mean they portrayed what they wanted.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That’s the problem. He should be a top tier. He was splitting the sky with Kaido in base. His gears should be a bit above that, like Big Mom sacrificing a year of her life or Kaido amped with alcohol.
Oda has done him dirty.

Oda's not doing him dirty lmao, if anything this is a honor.
Dude has to be taken down due to his own Devil Fruit.
Oda could have wrote Kizaru and him exchanging hits and that being the reason why they both couldn't get up for a while, but that's not the case, and there's a very clear reason for that.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Oda's not doing him dirty lmao, if anything this is a honor.
Dude has to be taken down due to his own Devil Fruit.
Oda could have wrote Kizaru and him exchanging hits and that being the reason why they both couldn't get up for a while, but that's not the case, and there's a very clear reason for that.

No there’s not a very clear reason for it.

I swear you retards always pretend you can read the authors mind.

it’s so fucking irritating and stupid