Chapter Discussion Saturn and how Oda showed him. Is he strong or not?

Saturn is weak or not?

  • He is like Orochi

    Votes: 14 28.0%
  • He is immortal god that didn't bother to react for now

    Votes: 36 72.0%

  • Total voters
    50
#26
He has some hax, but we have to wait to see more of his attacks. Physically he is not impressive.
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The blow to the head doesn't seem that impressive either. The most impressive thing is his paralyzing technique and his regeneration abilities.

I don't know if he's really strong or just that kind of character that once you figure out how his tricks work he becomes easy to defeat.
 
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#28
He has the strongest regen we have seen in the manga.
He can stare diff Sanji level fighters at least (which is not a joke)
Can teleport via sone magic summoning thing that is yet to be explained.
Saturn is one of the strongest we have seen.
We still need to see his fighting style/ap but with the information we have right now, he can't be killed.
Oda will probably introduce some kind of weakness at some point.
 
#29
People’s definition of “weak” tends to vary with their agendas. Right now a lot of them are just being reactionary as to be expected.

All that aside, the regeneration ability is actually perfect for the Gorosei. Saturn doesn’t have to fear about being killed…at worst his only concerns would be being immobilized (like being tossed into the sea) or imprisoned. Even that is iffy because the magic circle he used may not be an Ushi-Oni specific ability but tied to Imu instead.

It may be that as long as Imu lives, he cannot be killed and could just teleport himself back to Mariejois.
 
#31
He can stare diff Sanji level fighters at least (which is not a joke)
Are you serious?

The marines said that if they looked at Saturn, they would die. Those who were under VC lvl looked at Saturn and had their heads explode.

Sanji ran headfirst, and only suffered a bit of blood, and falling back. No head explosion, no death. No concussion, no brain damage, no lasting effect.

That's not starediffed, he didn't suffer the consequence given, He was just hindered for plot purposes and then put under the effect of whatever Saturn was doing to keep everyone down (that yes even your goldenboy Zoro would have suffered had he been in the area.)
 
#32
Kuma has so much build up as a character and him as a Buccaneer or someone really strong. For him not to get his moment to shine would be atrocious, since this isnt that kind of pessimistic manga.

I think you gotta look at narrative purposes and the relativity to the caliber of characters we will be dealing with from now until the end of the story.

I think Saturn is like others have said more broken power hacks type of villain rather than Physical prowess. Doesn't mean he's weak at all. More will be shown.
 
#37
Saturn is strong.

The reason fans are dogging on him is because we are pointing out the utter hypocrisy of Admiral haters. If Oda portrayed Kizaru the way he portrayed Saturn in 1104, 95% of this fandom would label Kizaru a Tobi Roppo.

It’s not about Saturn being weak, it’s about calling out liars for their lies.
The same literally DID happen to Kizaru hundreds of chapters before and to a much weaker opponent than Kuma
 
#39
Option 2. He just hasn't bothered yet.
Exactly this
Laturn is not weak.
My man Kuma is too strong!
Based and username checks out
Obviously strong, the chapter’s about giving Kuma his big moment and Saturn’s regen is just a bonus.
Garp the Fist being based as usual
Dude didn't even bother one bit yet and even casually went "I see, so just some lowly human malfunction" when Vegapunk told him what was up with Kuma.

All he did was regenerating into his perfect original state again and getting mildly annoyed.

He probably thinks about taking a nap after ordering the buster call, since nobody on this island poses an actual threat to him anyway.

:myman:
Lol at this, but that's basically it
He is strong. Let's wait for 3-4 chapters. We will get more conclusive answer.
I agree
 
#40
Are you serious?

The marines said that if they looked at Saturn, they would die. Those who were under VC lvl looked at Saturn and had their heads explode.

Sanji ran headfirst, and only suffered a bit of blood, and falling back. No head explosion, no death. No concussion, no brain damage, no lasting effect.

That's not starediffed, he didn't suffer the consequence given, He was just hindered for plot purposes and then put under the effect of whatever Saturn was doing to keep everyone down (that yes even your goldenboy Zoro would have suffered had he been in the area.)
Yes I am serious.
Sanji couldn't move even when Bonney was going to get killed.
I don't understand why you took it personnal lol
It is literally waht happened in the manga.
''My golden boy Zoro'' like you say didn't get that treatment.
Sure I agree that it was to hype Saturn at the expense of Sanji (as usual by Frauda) but it happened didn't it ?
Blame Oda...
 
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