Questions & Mysteries Why did Kaido place Shanks alongside the 4 people who’ve defeated him?

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#64
Shanks was bloodlusted and wanted to end it asap. Big Mom was not taking them seriously most of the fight and the fight reflected that.

Top tiers behave differently in fights and have different personalities who wouldve known. Now Im not saying she has similar AP to him thats kind of his department imo being that hes a swordsman that only uses Haki his haki should be superior to that of his peers but she has other things to compensate for.

I do think he likely beats her in a fight but its going to be a tough fight neverthless.

It is quite literally obvious that when Kaido says Primebeard,Roger and Xebec can fight him that he is comparing them to his prime current self and not his apprentice days if we take Xebec for example because Xebec would destroy apprentice Kaido it wouldnt be a fight like Kaido describes it but people cant read the manga unfortunately.
oh yeah I completely agree that Kaido is comparing his present day self to the prime versions of those 3. it wouldn't make sense otherwise.

I just think it's very likely those 3 all handed a younger Kaido impactful defeats
 
#65
What is he yapping on about?
I'm tryna figure out but he ain't cooperating with me bruh
oh yeah I completely agree that Kaido is comparing his present day self to the prime versions of those 3. it wouldn't make sense otherwise.

I just think it's very likely those 3 all handed a younger Kaido impactful defeats
Great tag btw
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#66
oh yeah I completely agree that Kaido is comparing his present day self to the prime versions of those 3. it wouldn't make sense otherwise.

I just think it's very likely those 3 all handed a younger Kaido impactful defeats
thanks.

though.... it kinda changes depending on character theme, which one are you using lol
 
#72
Is this your annual wishes for Shanks being top 1?

WB, Kaido and BM are out of the race and yet nobody has hyped Shanks as top 1 in the story
Not even the narrator when Shanks won against Kid

Even Teach starts claiming the race is open BECAUSE KAIDO AND BM are out
Why would Teach think this if Shanks was always above Kaido or is current top 1?

Kaido never said those 5 are above him nor that they defeated him
Also he fought Roger and Xebec when he wasn't in prime
He never lost ever since he got his fruit!
Oden was close but lost still ...that wasn't even WSC kaido yet

Shanks will never be above any top 5 Rocks pirate (Shiki, BM, Kaido, WB, Xebec)

There's no statement nor stat that places Shanks even equal to Kaido !
Bounty? Kaido
Hype? Kaido
Feats? Kaido
Titles? Kaido

The only thing Shanks has " Oda self insert character"
Kaido managed becoming WSC & 1v1 king even when WB was alive. Became WSP when WB died whe Shanks couldn't even become WSS

Unless Shanks gains King of the seas, WSP or WSM or PK title, he's not above nor equal to WB, Kaido, Xebec, Roger
 
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#75
Kaido's top 5 is about people who COULD defeat him, not that they necessarily defeated him.

Big mom fought on equal foot to him for several days, but she doesn't have enough AP to put him down.

Prime shiki is stronger than BM and was the YC2 of rocks pirates, still he has no way to defeat kaido.

Garp was a disappointment in hachinosu with the portrayal of being a glasscannon which is an unforgivable weakness against the durability and endurance KING.

Sengoku couldn't knock non haki non awakened marineford luffy with an upclose shockwave...

Mihawk spent his time hunting don krieg, hiding FAR AWAY from yonkos so, aside from shanks, they most likely don't even know about that.
 
#76
Because Shanks flexed his coc a bit a kaido was like "Damn that ***** is HIM. I'm going back home" And flew back to wano with his tail between his legs.

Shanks supremacy :endthis:
 
#77
Canon:
"There's only few ppl who can stand up against me"
"I can't remember the last time i fight for serious"
"A being capable to beat me doesn't exist in this world "

Somebody's 2 pieces of story:
"There's only a few ppl who already beat me up"
"I remember it's just 2 years ago that i got beat up by Red haired without no injury"
"A being capable to beat me already exist, a second one is coming( Nika)??"
"Joyboy Shanks wifi diff me, i should have wank the shit out of Shanks and call out his name plenty times during Onigashima fight instead of talking highly about Oden all the time"
 
#78
Xebec didn't defeat him, he wanted him in his crew and Kaido accept it.
Oden also didn't defeat him, he land a clear good cut but Kaido was far away of using his true power(adv CoC+Hybrid form/Drunken form)

Only two of this list probably defeat him, that is Roger and Primebeard.

Shanks was clean in MF, didn't had any injury, means he didn't fought Kaido. Probably just a small clash where Kaido witness the power of Shanks.

Not saying that Shanks wont be stronger then Kaido, given the way how Oda always hype Shanks, I see him at least equal.
 

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#79
This is purely headcanon but instead of power, I always liked to think of it as a clockwise order of significant events in Kaido's history:

1) Xebec - First real encounter around 46 years ago at age 15. Joined the crew and saw his strength.
2) Roger - Between 46 - 38 years ago. Kaido implied in chapter 1096 at God Valley that he had a previous encounter with Roger.
3) Newgate - Either during their time on rocks or the years following their dissolution.
4) Oden - Gave him the scar 20 years ago (and lifetime PTSD).
5) Shanks - Right before Marineford when Shanks intercepted and some clash ensured.

Does this mean it's true? Well, I'm reading twopiece and it's confirmed there. :madmonk:
 
#80
None of them defeated him, you're clearly reading a different manga to the rest of us.
We literally know for a fact that Kaido was defeated 7 times in the past. As I’ve already explained, Oden was literally shown giving Kaido an L, and Roger, WB, and Xebec very clearly did too.

What do you even gain from denying that Roger, WB, and Xebec defeated Kaido? They were the 3 strongest characters back then, so by denying that they gave Kaido his L’s, that means that some weaker characters than them handed Kaido his L’s. Kaido fans are so dumb that they end up inadvertently downplaying Kaido lol.
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Xebec didn't defeat him, he wanted him in his crew and Kaido accept it.
Oden also didn't defeat him, he land a clear good cut but Kaido was far away of using his true power(adv CoC+Hybrid form/Drunken form)

Only two of this list probably defeat him, that is Roger and Primebeard.

Shanks was clean in MF, didn't had any injury, means he didn't fought Kaido. Probably just a small clash where Kaido witness the power of Shanks.

Not saying that Shanks wont be stronger then Kaido, given the way how Oda always hype Shanks, I see him at least equal.
Kaido would never follow Xebec unless it was proven that Xebec is stronger than him
 
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