Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

It's always Emotional stances and never a logical reasoning.

Actually its your stance that is completely emotionnal and unreasonnable. It doesn't take into account the very basic information that health care for all is actually something that works making you act from a place of fear of change hence by refusing to jump into the simple act of imagining a world with such a system.

Conservative loves to tell leftist that they are not reasonnable, but their entire vision of the world is based on fear of change...

Not long ago,you were defending violent riots in France,hypocrite.

He changes his stances when they are convenient. This dude is a hypocrite.

I didn't include those type of violence in this statement. I was talking only about unlegitimate violence. In short, violences that are not needed. But yeah, granted, sometimes some form of violences are necessary. This is not the cases of violences through guns.

He probably loves the arrest of Frances Farmers.

Why would I love those arrest ? Your sentence is not logical.

Depends on how we define violence. I'd argue that not defending oneself is a form of violence against oneself.

In absolute, you are right yes.

 

[Bob74h]

you are besically the guy screaming in the theatre and noone but me is trying to prevent you from doing that, you better enjoy this freedom while it last mate.

peacefully voicing my opinon equates trying to disrubte everyone from enjoying a flim at a movie theatre



a better comparison would of been if im to go to femmminst .com and just tell them they all retarded without offering any reasons for why



that's a disturbion of the peace without any postive connotation

 

[NAMELESS]

Actually its your stance that is completely emotionnal and unreasonnable. It doesn't take into account the very basic information that health care for all is actually something that works making you act from a place of fear of change hence by refusing to jump into the simple act of imagining a world with such a system.

Conservative loves to tell leftist that they are not reasonnable, but their entire vision of the world is based on fear of change...





I didn't include those type of violence in this statement. I was talking only about unlegitimate violence. In short, violences that are not needed. But yeah, granted, sometimes some form of violences are necessary. This is not the cases of violences through guns.



Why would I love those arrest ? Your sentence is not logical.


In absolute, you are right yes.

Yeah,and of course you are the one that can judge when violence is needed and when its not. Shooting a criminal because he is trying to assfuck you is a no no,but breaking someone's property because the gov did something is fine. Moron.

 

[Bob74h]

As long as humans exist people will find a reason to hate someone else.

''As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead"
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Is this really how you see leftism ? Do you really think that we are teaching ourselves to be victims and the end ? Do you really think that we define ourself as victims ? Do you really think that people who fought for progress, sometimes with violences and revolutions for centuries will be okay by just considering themselves as victims and stand by ?

dude how can you change from going no it's not about opressor vs opressed people type narratives in the comment to going nope entirely full into it in the same fucking comment



is it the case that it's about progress or just seeing black people,women or whatever as poor opressed losers we should pity

 

[NAMELESS]

''As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead"
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dude how can you change from going no it's not about opressor vs opressed people type narratives in the comment to going nope entirely full into it in the same fucking comment



is it the case that it's about progress or just seeing black people,women or whatever as poor opressed losers we should pity
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dude how can you change from going no it's not about opressor vs opressed people type narratives in the comment to going nope entirely full into it in the same fucking comment



is it the case that it's about progress or just seeing black people,women or whatever as poor opressed losers we should pity

Its called intelectual dishonesty.
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Depends on how we define violence. I'd argue that not defending oneself is a form of violence against oneself.

It's their own damn fault they got ill. They probably comitted grave sins before the Lord and now they reap what they sow.

Spoiler

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yep.being a coward is detrimental to the self.

 

[Bob74h]

Its called intelectual dishonesty.
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yep.being a coward is detrimental to the self.

problem with carrot


is that he looks at every issue and asks not if it's true but does it fit my idealogy



he cares not for truth but victory in the culture war


he's as bad as alex jones merely just trying to win and that's all
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Bernie would be Centrist and yet people call him commie .

bernie is very literally a commie


dude was fucking singing with soviets

 

[Logiko]

peacefully voicing my opinon equates trying to disrubte everyone from enjoying a flim at a movie theatre

Sexism is not just an opinion. Its an act of oppression.

Yeah,and of course you are the one that can judge when violence is needed and when its not

As long as violence is not meant to kill without necessity and that its always done in order to bring back justice and the rights of other people, then yes. I can judge that usage pretty easily.

Shooting a criminal because he is trying to assfuck you is a no no

Real selfdefense is an act of necessity, right ? So its legitimate violence.

breaking someone's property because the gov did something is fine

Depending on the context, it can also be a form of legitimate violence.

Basically your comparison is useless here.

dude how can you change from going no it's not about opressor vs opressed people type narratives in the comment to going nope entirely full into it in the same fucking comment



is it the case that it's about progress or just seeing black people,women or whatever as poor opressed losers we should pity

Its always about domination. The entire world revolves around systems of dominations.

problem with carrot


is that he looks at every issue and asks not if it's true but does it fit my idealogy



he cares not for truth but victory in the culture war


he's as bad as alex jones merely just trying to win and that's all

Are you sure you are not speaking about yourself here ? What I'm trying to do is not winning. What I'm trying to do here is making you change your point of view. Protect you from your biases, making you more curious about reality, trying to transform you into someone more positive about the world and the other gender, making you evolve toward progress.

But the rest can only be done by you mate. I can't make you change if you refuse to change or to evolve.

But you know the saying: When we stop learning, we start dying.

 

[Uncle Van]

problem with carrot


is that he looks at every issue and asks not if it's true but does it fit my idealogy



he cares not for truth but victory in the culture war


he's as bad as alex jones merely just trying to win and that's all
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bernie is very literally a commie


dude was fucking singing with soviets

Bernie Sanders isn't a communist by definition. Do you even know what a communist is?

 

[Bob74h]

Are you sure you are not speaking about yourself here ?

how would that even work


i dont have a stated group allligance or a stated idealogy to follow


when did i state to have any idealogy matter of fact???


you both have a stated group allligance and idealogy to follow



so yea the comment fits you




ive disagreed with the right many times even made couple threads doing so but ignore that im just a right wing pundit cause you said so

trying to transform you into someone more positive about the world and the other gender, making you evolve toward progress.

ive said the general same about men as ive said about women


only fundamental difference in behavior occurs as result of differing social standards and norms


if men held more social power, probably would act similiarily to alot of the more bitchy women afterall if men act like that then they get beat up same is not true for women

 

[Herrera95]

He changes his stances when they are convenient. This dude is a hypocrite.

Woke being hypocrite? Who would thought?

 

[Zenos7]

Still no. There is no reason to listen to a flat earther about science.

if the flat earther makes a correct statement about science, that statement is true regardless of him being a flat earther.

 

[Bob74h]

Bernie Sanders isn't a communist by definition. Do you even know what a communist is?

so christans arent christan cause they dont think behemoth and leviathan are real mythlogical beasts?


they have stated belief in god so they are christan, bernie has stated belief in communism and literally endorsed soviet union, a communist country


so he's communist if his beliefs dont line up perfectly then it's just a case of pastors not always agreeing with every line in the bible like genociding the whole world by means of a flood
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Sexism is not just an opinion. Its an act of oppression.

what i said was some of my takes. that's not sexism itself could you argue some of the opinons were sexist sure but that does not mean they are not opinons


besides you can argue for anything so who gives a shit what you can argue for, I can argue flying pigs with bird wings are real does not mean they in reality exist


you dont buy into this bs anyway, is it opression if a femminst says all men should die or all men are trash?

 

[Zemmi]

Trump is an idiot but Biden increased Trump's chances.
Grab them by the p**sy round two is upon us:saden:
How do Americans always manage to destroy everything?

I found that statement horrible but the part where he said they let you I thought people would find liberating since women are free to let people do what they want to them.

 

[NAMELESS]

Bernie Sanders isn't a communist by definition. Do you even know what a communist is?

The problem is that commies change their definitions on the fly every new generation. I don't know who this Bernie dude is btw.

 

[Zemmi]

Rio is in Brazil eitherway not much idea on Brazil politics other than football.

Question is about people in America possessing high grade Military weapons . Everyday I see report some school shooting in the news am I like why people are allowed to have one ?

This is a false statement that the media has you believe. We aren't allowed to have automatic weapons. This doesn't surprise me that people think we have the rifles the military has since most people can't differentiate between gun types.

 

[NAMELESS]

I found that statement horrible but the part where he said they let you I thought people would find liberating since women are free to let people do what they want to them.

Well,he isn't wrong,lots of women just let rich dudes do whatever with them. I saw some comedians dressing up a beggar and hiring a ferrari for him here in brazil.Guess what happened next? The man (homeless man) got pussy.
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This is a false statement that the media has you believe. We aren't allowed to have automatic weapons. This doesn't surprise me that people think we have the rifles the military has since most people can't differentiate between gun types.

Toby said federal law allows for fullauto rifles without license.

 

[Zenos7]

I say white saviors because I find them the most distasteful. Where do they get the right to tell my child they are less than them and can't get ahead without their help.

yeah thats a disturbing level of arrogance
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Also, I don't think anyone who voted for Biden has any right to complain about racism considering he is the most racist president in recent times.

he is?

 

[Zemmi]

Well,so does Panama,Paraguai,Israel,Switzerland and so on.These places don't suffer from constant mass shootings and yet have such weaponry available to the average joe. Guns don't go floating around shooting people. America has a mental illness/malice problem. They have psychosocial problem,not a gun problem. Look up the statistics and you will see there are hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in America every year. Without guns,murder rates would skyrocket in America.

America has a mental illness. Amen.

A couple month ago a woman stripped down and swung around a business pole and rolled around the ground no one attempted to help her but just recorded her. Then I'm sure the cops came but due to our government not taking mental healthcare seriously she likely was just thrown in a jail cell to serve a sentence instead of being sent to get help for her issues whether they be mental or substance abuse.

 

[NAMELESS]

America has a mental illness. Amen.

A couple month ago a woman stripped down and swung around a business pole and rolled around the ground no one attempted to help her but just recorded her. Then I'm sure the cops came but due to our government not taking mental healthcare seriously she likely was just thrown in a jail cell to serve a sentence instead of being sent to get help for her issues whether they be mental or substance abuse.

Well,its pretty evident that a 15 year old that just shot all of his schoolmates with a rifle is NOT doing well mentally. But you know...its the guns fault.

 

[Zemmi]

To reply to all of you about the healthcare crisis. Universal healthcare should have never been a thing, but I even tend to agree there needs to be some now to an extent. The only part that makes me sad about it is the negative effect it has on growth in medical breakthroughs.

This will never happen because there is no money in it. Healthcare used to be affordable without anyone having insurance because they didn't charge you a billion dollars for a band-aid. (Being dramatic here). Then insurance and middle man, and more middle man came in and the prices kept rising and rising to fill these people's pockets to where the normal person can't afford it now.

If we want the best healthcare this world could provide we would go after these insurance companies and their minions, but like I said there is no money in that so government bodies will ignore it.

Also sue culture plays a part too, but that is a subject I'm not well informed on.
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Not under federal law. Some states have banned the distribution of assault weapons but they're legal in most states without the need for a license.

Full Auto are fully banned for new purchases. However, those on the market before 1985 or 1986 I believe they can be sold among people who already own them but they do require special permits to be allowed to be purchased.
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yeah thats a disturbing level of arrogance
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he is?

Yes he is.

He helped author a bill that unfairly incarcerated young black men. The one I mentioned Trump undid.

When they wanted to allow integrated schools he was against it and said he didn't want his kids to go to a racial jungle. For this one I will give him some grace because I truly believe people can learn and grow.

Who can forget? "If you don't vote for me you aren't black" Like skin color dictates how you think.

Poor kids should have all the opportunities that white kids have. (This one is horribly paraphrased) Like there aren't wealthy black families and poor white families.

Then when he uses of low-paying jobs he uses examples of black and Hispanic people.

These are just ones off the top of my head I'm sure if I went and dug into it again I would find some that I have forgotten.

Then if you look at the problem at the border, it's hard he believe he cares about any of America's residents or the people who are crossing. So maybe he is just a horrible person.