Character Discussion Which character is more tragic?

[SakazOuki]

That alone is much worse than Obito growing up safely in a village, joining a good team and watching your crush die on a war

You’re oversimplifying things by stating the tragedy and ignoring what sort of implications it had on each character at a specific stage of their life. Maybe there are two answers to this question, it is subjective when it comes to what people find more tragic or unbearable.

I do believe the loneliness and betrayal Obito suffered is far worse than what Kuma went through seeing how he was surrounded by loved ones during all stages of his life, and had something to live and fight for.

 

[soheilhazrat]

"Kuma was born slave" my brother in Christ obito is literal child soldier in world where 5 adult uchihas killed itama senju who was same age as obito iirc https://flic.kr/p/2pwMTHY

 

[Peroroncino]

Bro he was looking after the hag not other way around
Meanwhile kuma had loving parents, never found out his mom "died" since his dad lied, his dad's death was bad but he still found ginny and ivankov right after
Imagine kuma if he never found ginny and kuma. He lives as absolute nobody until he dies. Thats obito

obito had the whole uchiha clan

 

[Peroroncino]

The manga shows that even at a young age, Obito was on his own with the picture freyed

With the anime showing that Obito’s parents died early on and he was mostly raised by a singular grandparent

yeah look how sad he is, at that age kuma was getting beaten and tortured on a daily basis

 

[soheilhazrat]

obito had the whole uchiha clan

No? He was mocked for not being talented enough as uchiha ninja lol
He wasnt supported by the uchiha clan by no means

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

obito had the whole uchiha clan

He’s been consistently portrayed as an outcast with no one, similar to Naruto.

 

[Peroroncino]

He’s been consistently portrayed as an outcast with no one, similar to Naruto.

massive reach all we see is him in his house messing around being happy af

 

[SakazOuki]

With all that said, the Uchiha do tend to be overdramatic

 

[soheilhazrat]

massive reach all we see is him in his house messing around being happy af

Naruto also did these things..... its called begging for attention

 

[Peroroncino]

No? He was mocked for not being talented enough as uchiha ninja lol
He wasnt supported by the uchiha clan by no means

did the uchiha even made fun of him for that? I don't remember that still better than being tortured like kuma though

 

[Peroroncino]

Naruto also did these things..... its called begging for attention

whose attention is he begging while alone in his room?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

massive reach all we see is him in his house messing around being happy af

False. Obito has zero memory or flashback with any Uchiha character. Even when Kaguya tried to possess Obito and Narutoforced that esoteric dreamscape on him, Obito never featured any Uchiha.

It’s a very loud statement that he has zero canon ties to his own clan.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

yeah look how sad he is, at that age kuma was getting beaten and tortured on a daily basis

If we stopped at Obito age 9 to 12, agreed. Kuma edges out. But we need to keep everything else as well.

 

[Water1415]

Obito and I say this as a massive Kuma hater

 

[suzaku]

kuma's backstory is overrated

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Obito is what the fine people of TV Tropes call a "Psycopathic Manchild". In some ways, he was still 12 years old mentally when he died decades later.

Kuma, at least, moved in a more positive mental direction.

 

[Peroroncino]

False. Obito has zero memory or flashback with any Uchiha character. Even when Kaguya tried to possess Obito and Narutoforced that esoteric dreamscape on him, Obito never featured any Uchiha.

It’s a very loud statement that he has zero canon ties to his own clan.

that's because he has no sad flashback worth going on because he had a happy childhood same as sakura

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Kuma, obviously.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

that's because he has no sad flashback worth going on because he had a happy childhood same as sakura

If he had a happy childhood, we would have seen those figures in his later flashbacks of a “good Obito” after Naruto and Obito were in the dreamscape.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Geeeez yall really dont pay attention only people important and who were good to obito are team 7
Thats why he always remembers them in his good memories. Just portrayed like naruto
Everytime he sees people that were good with him at the beginning its always team 7 + iruka