Character Discussion Kizaru turned out to be trash character.

#1
Kizaru is such a letdown mainly as person but in power too.

This guy dont have problems trying to kill 12 years old girl . He doesnt have problem killing his friends ( Vegapunk , Kuma ,Sentomaru too ). All those times he spent with them laughing , dancing , eating means nothing to him.

I know some members troll admirals when saying they are Celestial dragons dogs but in Kizaru case its actually true.

People argue how ruthless Akainu is yet even AKainu could not kill Aokiji after defeating him in their duel , yet Kizaru is worse than Akainu its clear now.

Also about his power .

- no future sight ( kinda expected this from person who is all about speed )
- no awakening ( huge letdown )
- no acoc ( didnt expect this but still )
- piss poor attack power on top all those powers he is lacking

The hype is over , Kizaru is garbage he deserves defeat based on everything shown so far.
 
#3
--Kizaru has been pretty mid for most part

--And Kizaru's character is very bad. It is negative I will say.

--His character is basically that he is corporate slave and will do anything for them. He will kill his own wife and son/daughter if WG orders him to do so because he is a corporate slave. And its not like there is a reason for it like itachi had in naruto.
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As for power level I will wait till egghead end. Then I will judge him as it too pre-mature for now imo.
 
#6
Reading comprehension is at an all time low. He's stated and shown that he doesn't want to do any of this multiple times.

No proof he doesn't have futuresight and he casually kept up with and perception blitzed snakeman who Kaido needed futuresight just to dodge so he already has the best speed feats without futuresight.

The arc isn't over so claiming he doesn't have an awakening when he hasn't even been pushed to full strength in base is dumb.

This was a dumb prediction.

Mere replicas of Kizarus DF had Luffy admitting he could be killed by them and concentrated lasers in general are beyond flames on Lunarian durability as stated by Lilith and Edison which no characters acoc has hurt them yet so claiming he has "low attack power" is nonsensical.

Kizarus already displayed some of the greatest feats in the verse without even remotely trying. Luffy himself stated Kizaru was very powerful in a worried context and couldnt even make him bleed until growing stronger with laugh amps.

You're beyond foolish if you think Kizaru has been disappointing or that he's finished
 

ZenZu

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#10
Ignoring the power level stuff, couldn't disagree more. Kizaru stood on business.

Glad Oda didn't go the pity party route, people were actually hoping he joins Luffy's side, as if there isn't enough shameless Nika wank going on. Thank God Kizaru remained the menace that he always was, I was very close to dropping him as one of my favourite characters if he were to be all buddy buddy with his friends.

Him stabbing Vegapunk with his hand in his pocket took me back to pre timeskip Kizaru. I'm glad Oda stuck true to both Lucci and Kizaru this arc, this manga is way too skewed for the good guys as it already stands. Lucci being tsundere when he was stuck with Luffy was the worst part of this arc.
 
#12
Reading comprehension is at an all time low. He's stated and shown that he doesn't want to do any of this multiple times.

No proof he doesn't have futuresight and he casually kept up with and perception blitzed snakeman who Kaido needed futuresight just to dodge so he already has the best speed feats without futuresight.

The arc isn't over so claiming he doesn't have an awakening when he hasn't even been pushed to full strength in base is dumb.

This was a dumb prediction.

Mere replicas of Kizarus DF had Luffy admitting he could be killed by them and concentrated lasers in general are beyond flames on Lunarian durability as stated by Lilith and Edison which no characters acoc has hurt them yet so claiming he has "low attack power" is nonsensical.

Kizarus already displayed some of the greatest feats in the verse without even remotely trying. Luffy himself stated Kizaru was very powerful in a worried context and couldnt even make him bleed until growing stronger with laugh amps.

You're beyond foolish if you think Kizaru has been disappointing or that he's finished
Actions >>>> words.

I guess he values more his high admiral salary than lives of his friends.
 
#13
We already have enough good guy Marines to help the Strawhats. I don’t understand why people want even more. That would make 2/3 of the current Admirals.

Anyway, Kizaru has been great, and accomplishing his mission despite not even wanting to just makes him a better antagonist.
Then again, we just came off an arc with some of the most disappointing antagonists in the series, so maybe they just make him look better by comparison.

As for the power side, he had Yonko Luffy on the floor begging for someone to feed him just to get back into the fight.
All you’d be saying is that all the prior antagonists including the Rocks duo are just worse in comparison.
:goyea:
 
#18
True. Usually they drop the blasé attitude when faced with an actual challenge, but he's still unfazed. I don't think he cares about the WG at all, just a way to keep himself out of trouble (compared to being against the WG). Sadly, I dont think a powerup/ultimate form is coming, way too much effort.

I really think he just wants to pull a Thanos; wreck some shit then grow some vegetables

I liked him in Film Z tho:sanmoji:
 
#19
I don't really care about the psycho troll version of Kizaru, I think that It's a pretty good character.
The only thing I don't like about him is how Oda makes him very emotional at times and then he's emotionless out of nowhere.
In a lot of panels he's just an empty shell, there's no substance and it's pretty pathetic.
 
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