Chapter Discussion Oda does not care about the Strawhat crew
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They are simply not important nowadays , they have a few crumbs here and there, but overall they are moments that barely matter on a large scale.
Franky is the perfect example. A lot of people say that Franky has been great in this arc, but he has like 4 highlight panels in an arc that is already a bigger than thriller bark. If the anime was adapted at a normal pace, his participation would have 3 minutes of screen time. In Wano, he received a fight that Oda barely put effort into, without any special plotline against a character with as much impact and characterization as these random V.As, the fight would be almost like a filler if his new sword didn't appear.
Franky is the perfect example. A lot of people say that Franky has been great in this arc, but he has like 4 highlight panels in an arc that is already a bigger than thriller bark. If the anime was adapted at a normal pace, his participation would have 3 minutes of screen time. In Wano, he received a fight that Oda barely put effort into, without any special plotline against a character with as much impact and characterization as these random V.As, the fight would be almost like a filler if his new sword didn't appear.
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Some of the Strawhats are part of the action (mostly against their will but still) but most of them are focused on escaping
I understand wanting more from the Strawhats action wise but I just don’t think this is the arc for that
If you look at Oda basically did what he’s always done (yes, even pre timeskip)
About half of the Strawhats get some action in and the other half do other things (escaping in this case)
This arc doesn’t really introduce needless characters though. It expanded on 2 characters that people wanted to see more of and are directly tied to Luffy
The only thing that I’d say was almost completely pointless was the little murder mystery thing. It was dragged on for no reason
Other than that I’d say about half of the Strawhats got a decent amount this arc
Luffy was in multiple skirmishes, Zoro got Lucci and Kaku, Sanji got Kizaru and will likely be directly effected by Vegapunk’s death, Franky showed up and showed out against Saturn and Kizaru, and Robin got her closure for the Ohara Incident
I understand wanting more from the Strawhats action wise but I just don’t think this is the arc for that
If you look at Oda basically did what he’s always done (yes, even pre timeskip)
About half of the Strawhats get some action in and the other half do other things (escaping in this case)
This arc doesn’t really introduce needless characters though. It expanded on 2 characters that people wanted to see more of and are directly tied to Luffy
The only thing that I’d say was almost completely pointless was the little murder mystery thing. It was dragged on for no reason
Other than that I’d say about half of the Strawhats got a decent amount this arc
Luffy was in multiple skirmishes, Zoro got Lucci and Kaku, Sanji got Kizaru and will likely be directly effected by Vegapunk’s death, Franky showed up and showed out against Saturn and Kizaru, and Robin got her closure for the Ohara Incident
If we are talking about only post time skip.
Nami has cool moments here and there.
I just hate how long I have to wait for these moments
First half of wano and Dressrosa was bad for her tho
WCI and Zou was saving grace. That's why it is my favorite arc
I hate Egghead.
Bonney got same amount of panel time in 1.5 Years during Egghead that Nami got during wano arc even though it was 4 years long.
Bonney has 4 times of panel time of Nami in egghead
Nami wanted Flower Jewel and its Bonney who got it
What happened to her diamonds
Why did you draw it ?
Nami didn’t even used the bubble Gun. Sanji took it. Why ??
Such is the fate of the main heroine
I don't even care about fights.
I just want her to get involve in main plot.
Nami has cool moments here and there.
I just hate how long I have to wait for these moments
First half of wano and Dressrosa was bad for her tho
WCI and Zou was saving grace. That's why it is my favorite arc
I hate Egghead.
Bonney got same amount of panel time in 1.5 Years during Egghead that Nami got during wano arc even though it was 4 years long.
Bonney has 4 times of panel time of Nami in egghead
Nami wanted Flower Jewel and its Bonney who got it
What happened to her diamonds
Why did you draw it ?
Nami didn’t even used the bubble Gun. Sanji took it. Why ??
Such is the fate of the main heroine
I don't even care about fights.
I just want her to get involve in main plot.
He doesn't care much about series too.. If he did he would be protesting and taking hiatus like Togashi. From what I can see, the way chapters are coming it just feels like mass cinema, Not much concentration and efforts added, just scenes to hype up the masses. It works and generates money regardless of the quality of series now since a mass following has already been established.
I partially agree
How are they useless now? You can’t expect them to have full fights when they’re running away
The same thing has happened in pretty much every escape arc, that isn’t even a Strawhat thing it’s just common sense
When the Whitebeard Pirates ran from the Marines they avoided as many confrontations as possible. Ace turning around to face Akainu went directly against their wishes and is the only reason he’s dead
True, but that’s because their main focus wasn’t running away in Skypiea
ZKK baiting? I’d say that’s more the readers fault than Oda’s
The rest (regarding Zoro) I agree with but he still got a pretty hefty amount. The SBS Family tree part was brutal though, he completely dropped the ball on that
Franky’s fight wasn’t the one that was rushed, Jinbei’s was. I still remember people claiming Who’s Who would get back up, most people were alright with Franky’s iirc
Brook played support while Robin took on Maria, I don’t see any problem with that
Chopper, someone that’s been a part of the weakling trio since the pre timeskip, took on an ancient zoan YC2 and made him bleed multiple times and you think he got bitched?
Chopper was praised to help and back when those chapters came out. He did way better than most readers thought he would
Chopper’s slap making Queen bleed was used to clown Sanji for ages lol
If anything you should’ve used Usopp and Nami for this cause even I’ll admit they got the much shorter end of the stick
How are they useless now? You can’t expect them to have full fights when they’re running away
The same thing has happened in pretty much every escape arc, that isn’t even a Strawhat thing it’s just common sense
When the Whitebeard Pirates ran from the Marines they avoided as many confrontations as possible. Ace turning around to face Akainu went directly against their wishes and is the only reason he’s dead
True, but that’s because their main focus wasn’t running away in Skypiea
ZKK baiting? I’d say that’s more the readers fault than Oda’s
The rest (regarding Zoro) I agree with but he still got a pretty hefty amount. The SBS Family tree part was brutal though, he completely dropped the ball on that
Franky’s fight wasn’t the one that was rushed, Jinbei’s was. I still remember people claiming Who’s Who would get back up, most people were alright with Franky’s iirc
Brook played support while Robin took on Maria, I don’t see any problem with that
Chopper, someone that’s been a part of the weakling trio since the pre timeskip, took on an ancient zoan YC2 and made him bleed multiple times and you think he got bitched?
Chopper was praised to help and back when those chapters came out. He did way better than most readers thought he would
Chopper’s slap making Queen bleed was used to clown Sanji for ages lol
If anything you should’ve used Usopp and Nami for this cause even I’ll admit they got the much shorter end of the stick
Sanji as a character has lots of panels and he has involvement in the narrative as well.
The only problem is he didn't live upto what we expect from him.
Zoro has been doing fine as far as fights are concerned..but he lacks involvement in the main plot narrative.
But these things aren't new.. going during Pre TS as well.
I think these two will be fine.
Other SHs - they suffer the most as they aren't getting much fights to grow and shine nor they are playing any role useful because other side characters have chipped in to take their panels + Over the moon Nika wank
The only problem is he didn't live upto what we expect from him.
Zoro has been doing fine as far as fights are concerned..but he lacks involvement in the main plot narrative.
But these things aren't new.. going during Pre TS as well.
I think these two will be fine.
Other SHs - they suffer the most as they aren't getting much fights to grow and shine nor they are playing any role useful because other side characters have chipped in to take their panels + Over the moon Nika wank
Luffy being compared to Ryuma in Wano instead of Zoro was next level, and ZERO panels of Ryuma's grave.
the no show grave is currently a miss unless Oda gives us a flashback during a future Zoro fight/story moment. But as it stands I agree a miss
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It’s no longer worth a weekly read, better read in bulks
Final saga just started so there are more interesting general plotlines, but the chapters are no longer engaging on a weekly basis and a big part of that is neglecting the main cast, along with the endless repetitive cringe gags and a whole lot of nothing going on
Final saga just started so there are more interesting general plotlines, but the chapters are no longer engaging on a weekly basis and a big part of that is neglecting the main cast, along with the endless repetitive cringe gags and a whole lot of nothing going on
