How long will these 10 minutes take?


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Bro I'm a Zoro and Robin fan with a Pluton fetish (ugh) who still believes in ZKK, if you think I'm an Admiral fan talk to anyone else here.

I like Kizaru, Kuzan, and Fujitora a good deal, but while I respect Akainu and Green Bull, especially as characters, I don't like them as much, and I like Kuzan and Fujitora FOR going against the Marines and WG at times.

My disappointment is I thought we were going to actually get a motivated Admiral 1v1ing Luffy.

It's fine to trash Admirals fans who trashed Luffy fans for suggesting Luffy would succeed in Egghead.

Acting like Admiral fans were wrong to want a legit 1v1 than this drawn out assassination of a old-ass-man is crazy.

There are plenty of One Piece fans that don't like the Admirals that would like to see Luffy fight an Admiral going all out because it would be cool to see, not just because of their personal agendas.
What you say is true,...I like Zoro and Mihawk,...but I would like some secondary characters to do well
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Admiral fans, your heart is in it.

Kizaru's heart isn't in it.

Whatever anyone wants to say about this arc, this is not a guy wanting to fight here.

I openly said I thought Luffy would lose to Kizaru in a 1v1 fight. I was wrong. We never got a 1v1 fight, but a bunch of running around, a brief respite, and then Kizaru getting murdered.

This is not an arc where Kizaru is a menacing or dominating force. You hate it, I get it. Luffy fans were right and you were wrong, and I was wrong about him having a good showing.

There is no point trying to defend this display. I was wrong, you were wrong. Kizaru jobbed. This is not the guy on Sabaody and Marineford who would do anything for the mission.

This is a series about Will, and how it changes the world, and Kizaru clearly is forcing himself to do something his Will hates and he would change if he could.

That's why Luffy's winning, because he's fighting for what he believes justice is, rather than what he has been told justice is by others.

It sucks because I honestly think motivated Kizaru vs Luffy is one of the most hype possible fights in this fucking series, and Oda teased it just to do this, but, fuck.

You have every right to be sad, this is not the guy from Sabaody and Marineford, this is a dude wishing he had retired.

This isn't about Luffy being stronger than Kizaru, this is about Kizaru losing faith in the Marines entirely.

Kizaru needs to change for himself, not get a win here.
Can't say I didn't see this coming. The signs were there. Oda seems to be wanting only Akainu vs Luffy afterall. Could have had Kizaru go up against another top tier or something if he was saving Luffy for Akainu. Shaping up to be a waste of arguably the most powerful logia because Oda doesn't want to draw serious fights against top tiers knowing it would take too long and too much effort to draw, and it would halt the rest of the stuff he actually wants to draw (especially if Luffy is to defeat someone on the same level anyway in actual focused battle).

His answer to this problem was to muddy up egghead with the constant G5 overuse (so Luffy can deal with things quickly), Kizaru's "internal dilemma", and the focus on anything but Luffy for Kizaru (again so Oda can excuse Kizaru being timed out here and there while having an excuse). Oda knows Kizaru is too strong to lose quickly which is why you don't see any signs of physical defeat (he hardly shed a drop of blood the entire arc), and why he refuses to have Kizaru lock in on Luffy, why he has Luffy taking potshots the entire time to down him whenever convenient for the plot. Just another case of Oda trying to have his cake and eat it too.

Good chance Oda has made his choice, Kaidou from the Yonkou and Akainu from the Admirals, the strongest from each group which is as good as Luffy beating the rest so he doesn't have to draw "redundant" long fights. (Teach is exempt from this equation, he's not a part of the OG group, just as he wasn't really a part of the Warlords, he's just using these titles to further his own agenda).

If Kizaru vs Luffy doesn't actually happen this arc, it is all but Oda admitting Luffy is going to be taking Akainu down. Believe it or not Luffy beating Kizaru here would significantly reduce the chances of an Akainu vs Luffy with a conclusion.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Force Choke the Chicken
What you say is true,...I like Zoro and Mihawk,...but I would like some secondary characters to do well
I'm a huge Katakuri fan and no one here knows because I joined posted Whole Cake and he's done nothing since, HAHAHAHAHA.

Kizaru's intro in Sabaody is one of the craziest moments in the series to me, he's not in my top list, but he was a really interesting, versatile, and powerful antagonist at the end of the PTS. It's just sad to see this.

I really hope Oda has an explanation for Kizaru's performance here. This series has too many fights for Oda to nerf top-tier fighters in the end game whenever it's convenient for the plot, and that's why this is worrying me.

Hope we get some Mihawk hype this year, it's possible.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Assuming the Gorosei can only teleport short distances or to another Gorosei wouldn't that leave Marijuana open to attack? BBP and the Revos could do something here. :quest:
BBP left egghead few mins ago as per one piece time line

There is no way they can make it to MJ

RA - Dragon is busy sitting in his office.


Both BBP and RA aren't aware that all Elders are at egghead
 
I'm a huge Katakuri fan and no one here knows because I joined posted Whole Cake and he's done nothing since, HAHAHAHAHA.

Kizaru's intro in Sabaody is one of the craziest moments in the series to me, he's not in my top list, but he was a really interesting, versatile, and powerful antagonist at the end of the PTS. It's just sad to see this.

I really hope Oda has an explanation for Kizaru's performance here. This series has too many fights for Oda to nerf top-tier fighters in the end game whenever it's convenient for the plot, and that's why this is worrying me.

Hope we get some Mihawk hype this year, it's possible.
I would have liked to see Kizaru fight with all his power,..but it seems that Kizaru thinks a lot about whether to fight or not
of other characters that I am waiting for,...Uta,Perona,Moria
 
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