Le Fishe Thread Fodder Fist Ace

He won't even beat sanji let alone zoro.
Ace was fighting against WB, admirals, Teach and giving them a good fight.
All of those guys would neg diff Zoro and Sanji combined.
Ace is way too underrated, and his recent lore just tells us how much Oda respects him.
Him defeating 2 warlords just as a rookie tells us he was always Luffy caliber, not fodder like sanji
 
Ace was fighting against WB, admirals, Teach and giving them a good fight.
All of those guys would neg diff Zoro and Sanji combined.
Ace is way too underrated, and his recent lore just tells us how much Oda respects him.
Him defeating 2 warlords just as a rookie tells us he was always Luffy caliber, not fodder like sanji
Got negged by WB ; never fought any admirals and only negated one attack from aokiji -- Sanji blocked laser which shook Kizaru ; pre skip teach with yami DF and he lost the fight.

Nah ace is not beating current zoro at all. And by feats not even sanji.
 
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did you even read the original post?



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You see how retarded your comparison is just based on reaction panel of 2 different situations
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Got negged by WB ; never fought any admirals and only negated one attack from aokiji -- Sanji blocked laser which shook Kizaru ; pre skip teach with yami DF and he lost the fight.

Nah ace is not beating current zoro at all. And by feats not even sanji.
Whitebeard was using Gura against Ace. Check the Ace novel, its mentioned there. If you think he needs gura for fodder like zoro and sanji then you're unironically underestimating WB/Yonko

Ace who was heavily nerfed with injuries and exhausted due to Seastone cuffs completely negated Kuzan's attack. That not just simply clashing. It means that at full potential, Ace can literally overpower Kuzan's ability.

Also pls tell me what happened after sanji kicked that casual beam from Kizaru?
Oh that's right, he got hit again by a base casual kick and is heavily bleeding.

Also Yami Teach is a low top tier, he negs both Zoro and Sanji at the same time. Ace losing to Teach is a testament of BB strength, not the other way around.

Ace violates the SHs(w/o goofy) horribly and its not close
 
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Black Beard has shown low durability, but a great endurance. Everything hurts him, but he later comes out like nothing. And his physical power is also great, there is a couple of feats of this.

Shanks eye is one lol.
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Ace is stronger than Queen.
He had a draw with Alabasta Smoker though?
 
All ace gas, like some certain other character, exist in secondary material novels

Here is ace in the manga

Stalled smoker offscreen
Destroyed multiple ships
Lost against BB In a 1vs1
Got literal sleep diffed by wb
Drew with Jimbe
Drew with Yamato
Stalled aokiji

Crocodile in marineford has literal better portrayal
 
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All ace gas, like some certain other character, exist in secondary material novels

Here is ace in the manga

Stalled smoker offscreen
Destroyed multiple ships
Lost against BB In a 1vs1
Got literal sleep diffed by wb
Drew with Jimbe
Drew with Yamaro
Stalled aokijj

Crocodile in marineford has literal better portrayal
if we're using the logic of Luffy vs kat then ace won that fight outright with enough gas to try and save his crew and fight wb alone after 5 days as a rookie...

again matched Yamato who with chains was already YC3+ level once again as a rookie...

matched aokiji and only lost in a battle of elements...

Croc as much as he is my guy does not have better portrayal than ace what are yous smoking haha
 
a clash is not a draw 😂
They couldn't overpower each other. Can you also imagine any other YC clashing with Alabasta Smoker? 😂
In the manga he didnt if I am not wrong.

Besides, Luffy was having trouble with a Seraphim yet it doesn't mean they are stronger than him.


Literally everyone, Yonko included, is having problems with the fricken Seraphim, that's why they were made in the first place.
 
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it was a literal clash of elements they both said as much even in the anime lol

you even posted a panel where it is literally element talk and nothing more lmfao

are you fkn dense mate
You're dense and don't understand the basic dynamics of the story. They couldn't overpower each other because they are both intangible elements.
 
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