Quick reminder in Dragon Ball(not Z but just DB) episode 15 or like that Moten Roshi said that Goku and Kurillin need to break human limits and became superhumans to be a masters.
Goku and Kurilin already became superhumans before episode 20, when he was 12 years old.
Yet they can not survive in the vacuum of space. They can't survive being submerged in lava. They also can't survive cosmic radiation despite having ki in their verse.
Unlimitted potential in growth is always depends. Imagine this from Goku or hmm Lina Inverse perspective who is litteraly avatar of god who created Universe. Like for her Saitama is mere insect. For Goku Saitama is probably fighter with potential to rise.
Goku became that strong not because he was able one shot everything, but because he has crazy strong will and desire became stronger. Saitama didn't have anything like that. Saitama is not even Freeza. He just fight because he needs to fight. Totally different point from Goku,
Lina Inverse is more similar to Saitama, but she also fights not because she has to, but because she is crazy and greedy LOL. But she can use power that created universe and can destroy universe.
Yet they can not survive in the vacuum of space. They can't survive being submerged in lava. They also can't survive cosmic radiation despite having ki in their verse.
That's verse rules, nothing more. Also Goku's father fighted against Freeza in open space, so right now your statement looks weaker then ever. Speaking about Lava it's only 800 temperature, any Freeza beam, or Cell, ok Majin Boo beams was much more hotter and powerful. You making clown from yourself right now. Also Kamehameha is much hotter then some lava.
Goku's Kamehameha is stronger then Dragon Slave. He was able to destroy planed already when he was 13 th.
While destroying universe is thing that goes beyond Goku's abilities. I agree. But you missed the point, unlimited potential in your mind means that Saitama is able to gain power to destroy universe? As I said unlimited potential is thing that is based from perspective. For mere human beign Saitama could be called like that, but for Lina Inverse as Lord Nightmare avatar he is small bug. And right now it doesn't seems that Saitama is even close to Goku from DBZ, not even DBS.
Saitama literally has the speed to counter it. Also Goku was still getting hit by enemies even with that form in manga. The only thing ultra instinct benefits Goku is the amp in power. Ultra instinct is no different from this:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoPJxJXXgAYPZM5.jpg:large
You know nothing about Goku if you dare to said that. Moves predictions, or even future predictions ability Goku acvieved in the end of DB, not even DBZ.
That's verse rules, nothing more. Also Goku's father fighted against Freeza in open space, so right now your statement looks weaker then ever. Speaking about Lava it's only 800 temperature, any Freeza beam, or Cell, ok Majin Boo beams was much more hotter and powerful. You making clown from yourself right now. Also Kamehameha is much hotter then some lava.
You know nothing about Goku if you dare to said that. Moves predictions, or even future predictions ability Goku acvieved in the end of DB, not even DBZ.
Base Goku in Dragon Ball predict how Kurilen and Yamcha come. Thing is that any strong fighter in DBZ have it, so it didn't play big role, untill Ultra Instinkt where Goku Maxed that ability
Base Goku in Dragon Ball predict how Kurilen and Yamcha come. Thing is that any strong fighter in DBZ have it, so it didn't play big role, untill Ultra Instinkt where Goku Maxed that ability
Now I have proves that could show othervise: this is Goku's not even strongest form, and this happened because of clash, nothing more. Planet litteraly turned into dust:
Just small reminder this happened because of punch, not because of attack that contain concentreited power like Kamehameha.
Goku is able to sense threw Ki and this sence helped him predict future at the end of DB and in the begining. But again because every one havethat, it stop play any role.
Even a gag character like Saitama isn't free of feats.
So until Saitama doesn't show any feats which are on par with DBS Goku, he simply gets destroyed. Same rules.
Now I have proves that could show othervise: this is Goku's not even strongest form, and this happened because of clash, nothing more. Planet litteraly turned into dust:
Goku is able to sense threw Ki and this sence helped him predict future at the end of DB and in the begining. But again because every one havethat, it stop play any role.
then there's really no point of ultra instinct since you claim he can predict the future. Also the fact it needs to locked in on someone ki signature means it's useless in this matchup.
Saitama has no limits from what perspective? From human perspective? From author perspective?
It's again depends on side that called this thing about him.
It has been stated that he removed his limiter here
The limiter is the limit of strength that everyone has once you break it your potential has no limits or cap. We later see saitama grow at a high rate later in the manga to the point he is multiple times stronger then garou. A human is not gonna be moving from Jupiter to Mars in a couple seconds even in opm
Quick reminder in Dragon Ball(not Z but just DB) episode 15 or like that Moten Roshi said that Goku and Kurillin need to break human limits and became superhumans to be a masters.
Goku and Kurilin already became superhumans before episode 20, when he was 12 years old.
Ok, let me explane.
Unlimitted potential in growth is always depends. Imagine this from Goku or hmm Lina Inverse perspective who is litteraly avatar of god who created Universe. Like for her Saitama is mere insect. For Goku Saitama is probably fighter with potential to rise.
Right now I can say that Freeza is stronger then Saitama, that Magin Boo is stronger then Saitama.
Goku became that strong not because he was able one shot everything, but because he has crazy strong will and desire became stronger. Saitama didn't have anything like that. Saitama is not even Freeza. He just fight because he needs to fight. Totally different point from Goku, from Lina and even from Freeza.
Lina Inverse is more similar to Saitama, but she also fights not because she has to, but because she is crazy and greedy LOL. But she can use power that created universe and can destroy universe.
Lina in base with her dragon slave spell was stronger then base Saitama. And I don't need to explane why. She is just psycho in many ways, killing people for loot.
you do know your not debunking anything when it states what the limiter was in the manga and we see how much he grows during the heat of battle at a really high rate.
hen there's really no point of ultra instinct since you claim he can predict the future. Also the fact it needs to locked in on someone ki signature means it's useless in this matchup.
you do know your not debunking anything when it states what the limiter was in the manga and we see how much he grows during the heat of battle at a really high rate.
Saitama has no limits from what perspective? From human perspective? From author perspective?
It's again depends on side that called this thing about him
Well, Kurilin break human limits at the begining of DB. SO now Kurilin is strongest creature in the world? While he actually not even close to be called like that.
My point was clear, your right Goku already has nom limits from the very begining. So from his point unlimited potential of Saitama is actually limited.
When you want real example of unlimited potential you should look on Simon from Guren Lagan, by just own will and desire he turned his mech into thing that can break universe. And Simon's power lvl actually limited only by what he wants.
Well, Kurilin break human limits at the begining of DB. SO now Kurilin is strongest creature in the world? While he actually not even close to be called like that.
My point was clear, your right Goku already has nom limits from the very begining. So from his point unlimited potential of Saitama is actually limited.
When you want real example of unlimited potential you should look on Simon from Guren Lagan, by just own will and desire he turned his mech into thing that can break universe. And Simon's power lvl actually limited only by what he wants.
It legit showns a graph which had no actual limits going straight up at a kind of constant rate. meaning every time X increase Y increas at a infinite rate.
I could care less about an anime that I don't care about*
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all your doing is using headcanon to try to debunk the limitless claim and still ain't working. Read chapter 88 if you actually want to know what breaking your limit means and it is a 4d being who put this limiter on these humans in opm
It legit showns a graph which had no actual limits going straight up at a kind of constant rate. meaning every time X increase Y increas at a infinite rate.
read above
I could care less about an anime that I don't care about*
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all your doing is using headcanon to try to debunk the limitless claim and still ain't working. Read chapter 88 if you actually want to know what breaking your limit means and it is a 4d being who put this limiter on these humans in opm
Again stop this nonsence, and stop pretending that you don't know what I said. Show me how Saitama use power that is equel to Goku DBZ( not even DBS) and we will talk, if not, than all this shit is your headcanon.
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