Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zemmi]

Still no factual evidences how...




See.. you jump on the defense of Trump when all fact points toward him inciting this issurection. Him saying once in a tweet (that he didn't wanted to do btw) "stay peacefull" doesn't neglect what he said prior to the insurrection and the fact that it was too late to ask them to calm down.

The facts are clear. It was an insurrection and an incitment and it was treated as one by authorities.



His statement was : "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. "

Which is a statement that can have, if not debunked on regulated on the spot, VERY dangerous effects on uninformed and people with risky behaviors. Again, words have power and consequences. Again, you are choosing a side by jumping on the defense of Trump, hence why I can fairly say that we are not on the same side.



Nobody is missrepresenting anything, but you are sure jumping fast on the bangwagon of the defense of bigoted ideas and people. So I'm sorry but no. You are not a leftist.



If we look at your speech patterns, yes you are.



Yes you are, sorry



When you talk about "woke shit", yes you are.




Case and point.


No you don't. But hey. I won't take the time to explain why defending a transphobic definition is inherently transphobic to you, discussion closed, you took a side.



Nop. 100 % of my arguments are based on our understanding of science mate. And lets not forget that I'm the only one on this thread bringing massive amounts of real researches to the table.

You are again showing that you don't understand what we are talking about. Which is yet another evidence showing why we are not on the same side of the political fence.



Oh and... there is no such thing as "convenient science". Its science or its not. If you are not pleased by the results, you can only blame yourself, not reality.



It IS facts and sciences lmao



Yup, I wanted to keep it a secret myself, but I've been exposed...

Yes, I work for Satan. All hail our lord and savior !

Which is wrong and an exemple of far right propaganda and missinformation:

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-california-newsom-bill-sex-offenders-registration-358804546003



What you don't understand (because you didn't make the researches that I just did on the subject) is that those person who actually changed their gender are not "woke", they are anti-feminist that used the system of positive discrimination (that should help women in the fields) as a way to militate against radical feminism.

In short, those people are people like you.

You are again showing that you don't understand what you are talking about.

Trust me, there is evidence when my child comes home believing he is oppressed because of his skin color. And my daughter comes home telling me she thinks her teacher is racist even though when she taught my son, he was her favorite and called him her grandson. This is all stuff I have to undo in their mindsets, so they aren't held back by what the white saviors have told them.

 

[Uncle Van]

Trust me, there is evidence when my child comes home believing he is oppressed because of his skin color. And my daughter comes home telling me she thinks her teacher is racist even though when she taught my son, he was her favorite and called him her grandson. This is all stuff I have to undo in their mindsets, so they aren't held back by what the white saviors have told them.

Praise be to be Malcolm X. A white conservative tells you to jump into a furnace cause that's where you belong. A white liberal tries to trick you into walking into the furnace yourself.

 

[Logiko]

It does. Before judges had to punish. Now woke judges can let them go.

So your stance are "woke judge will not punish pedophilia" went "woke" people are literally the one denouncing it in multiple domain (such as the church or the hollywood for ex)

You are not really the best at making a point are you ?

It is useless since it can't prevent people who are not suppose to use it from use it. There is no regulation. No metric. Nothing ti determine if one individual is what it claims to be or not.

It will don't worry.

Trust me, there is evidence when my child comes home believing he is oppressed because of his skin color.

He is. You are just not accepting it. Because you don't personnaly feel oppression doesn't mean its a fact. Systemic racism exist wether you like it or not and it must be dealt with systematically as well. You son being oppressed doesn't mean that he is a victim, it just means that he understands the status of society.

And my daughter comes home telling me she thinks her teacher is racist even though when she taught my son, he was her favorite and called him her grandson

So you choosed not to trust your daughter because the teacher was kind to your son ? And thus not understanding that someone can have racist bias against one person and not others.. or... i don't know... maybe change in between ?

Good to know ...

This is all stuff I have to undo in their mindsets

So your daughter explains to you that she thinks her teacher is problematic and your mindset, instead of thinking that maybe the teacher is not acting the same with your son and with other kids.. you are choosing to "change this mindset"?

For real...

so they aren't held back by what the white saviors have told them.

Maybe you should listen to what scientists are saying instead of thinking that anyone that explains to you an oppression that you don't feel is a white savior.

 

[Herrera95]

So your stance are "woke judge will not punish pedophilia" went "woke" people are literally the one denouncing it in multiple domain (such as the church or the hollywood for ex)

You are not really the best at making a point are you ?

Woke people are the one doing it.

"Doritos has fired a transgender activist who appeared in one of its promotional videos after being alerted to her sickening old tweets, including one where she wrote about doing 'depraved things' to a 12-year-old."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ritos-backlash-trans-activist-ambassador.html

It will don't worry.

It won't and I will worry. Nowadays women are losing space on sports because of shit like that. They are sharing bathrooms with sexual predators that claims to be woman while having erection around them. And you pretend to not see that because you are in favor of those things happens. Because wokes are bunch of pedo and rapists.

 

[Zemmi]

So your stance are "woke judge will not punish pedophilia" went "woke" people are literally the one denouncing it in multiple domain (such as the church or the hollywood for ex)

You are not really the best at making a point are you ?



It will don't worry.



He is. You are just not accepting it. Because you don't personnaly feel oppression doesn't mean its a fact. Systemic racism exist wether you like it or not and it must be dealt with systematically as well. You son being oppressed doesn't mean that he is a victim, it just means that he understands the status of society.



So you choosed not to trust your daughter because the teacher was kind to your son ? And thus not understanding that someone can have racist bias against one person and not others.. or... i don't know... maybe change in between ?

Good to know ...



So your daughter explains to you that she thinks her teacher is problematic and your mindset, instead of thinking that maybe the teacher is not acting the same with your son and with other kids.. you are choosing to "change this mindset"?

For real...



Maybe you should listen to what scientists are saying instead of thinking that anyone that explains to you an oppression that you don't feel is a white savior.

Neither of them are oppressed. No, I don't think the teacher is racist because if she was she'd never have accepted my son as her own. My daughter was upset, she told her she couldn't go to the bathroom with her friend. I know people like you would love to believe everything is racist, even when the same rule would be applied to each person regardless of their race.

My son is lazy not oppressed lol. He prefers video games over any type of work. Me asking him to clean his room, fells like cruel and unusual punishment for him.

Though we will fill these young minds with these thoughts, make them believe white people are their enemies, when they like all other races, can be a great asset to their lives. Do racism still exist? Yes, but it's not in our systems, and it's not the majority of people.

White saviors mindset, is everyone walks in the store and every person they pass they are thinking, that persons white, that persons, black, that person Hispanic, that person is, etc. When in fact most people don't even notice because we are involved in our own lives and what matters to it. Not that their doctor is black or their nurse is Hispanic.

It's like the white saviors are the real racist shouting, we are better than black people. That's why I feel, they are the worst thing that has ever happened to the black community. Their egos and self righteousness will never allow them to see this though.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Vtuber company
This shit isn't political so... this is off topic kek

What is a vtube?

 

[Zemmi]

An interesting story from my home state. Stoner rats

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

An interesting story from my home state. Stoner rats

Fox news

 

[Ravagerblade]

What is a vtube?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber

 

[Zemmi]

Fox news

It's not political. It's Stoner rats.

 

[Ravagerblade]

It's not political. It's Stoner rats.

He's one of those types that sees "Fox" and immediately tries to make fun etc... granted it goes both ways I've seen /shrug. But it's telling on how disingenuous they could be without looking further. I suppose.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber

Omg this sounds like the definition of weeb content

Post automatically merged: Mar 16, 2024

It's not political. It's Stoner rats.

"Fox news" is thr 1st thing I saw before the thumnnail was fully loaded.

 

[Zemmi]

He's one of those types that sees "Fox" and immediately tries to make fun etc... granted it goes both ways I've seen /shrug. But it's telling on how disingenuous they could be without looking further. I suppose.

I mean I could turn it into political even though the video doesn't mention it, but how Nola is a cesspool because of its local elected government.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Omg this sounds like the definition of weeb content

Post automatically merged: Mar 16, 2024

"Fox news" is thr 1st thing I saw before the thumnnail was fully loaded.

Good job, insulting tons of people. And yet "Reads One Piece" good job sounding like a hypocrite. Smh

 

[Logiko]

"Apolitics" not understanding politics - episode 2156:

I will assume that you agree 100% with this descision @TheAncientCenturion.

Well, this just shows that this part of the community is bound to not evolve in term of progressism and stay completely ignorant about progressive subject sand thus will have to fight one day very serious accusations of bigotry.. but hey.. at least this staff took a stand about the subject. Not just the one that could make things better, but that's already a political choice, there is an evolution...



For those not understanding why I said that: I was banned most likely definitely from the Nakama thread for saying this:

"
All stories are political.

Meaning that a discussion about a stories has a LOT of chances to be political as well. And since we are discussing, debating and sometimes arguing about the next Nakama in the crew. We are putting in conflict different characters and therefore different values. And this is what politics are: A conflict of values.

And since some defensors of some character have used or are using some of the values of one character against the values of others.. the result is therefore even more politics than any other debate. Which makes this thread perfectly legitimate to have a political discussion in.

- When we explain that you don't need to be strong to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that you need to be an ally and not a murderer to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that a character's story had ended because the author choosed to show how important it is to find our own way to express freedom, we make politics
- When we explain that we should have more women in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that somefandom are toxic and why because of structural reasons, we make politics
- When we explain that a character should not be denied just because of their appearance, we make politics
Etc.

Political discussions are all over this thread without you even noticing it.
I'm only putting a spotlight on some of them.
"

It is a sequel to that post on the political thread:

"
What I didn't realized at the time is the political compass of the staff.

- Why are some mods considering that a forum for Mangas shouldn't get a political thread ?
- Why are some mods considering that saying that Minks are just dumb animals is completely normal ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing Carrot a feminine girl and praising another girl Yamato because of her having masculine attribute (while trashing her actual personnality) is not revealing of any sexist behavior ?
- Why are some mods considering that some form of transphobia are not acceptable but others are ?
- Why are some mods tickled by the action of someone politically labelling others ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing repetitively on a poster can't be considered toxic and in some cases harrassment ?
- Why are some mods considering normal that posters insults each others here ?
- Why are some mods considering we shouldn't act on the spread of negativity on a forum ?
- Why are some mods considering that calling out the toxicity of other is synonymous of being ourselve toxic ?


Added to that : the structures of power will always used their power/lies/gaslight/ to undermine the questionning of their structure. All the more in moments where the opposition has absolutely no way to contradict its words:

Remember what I said a few month ago: This forum is not just the place where a bunch of nerds reunites:

- The Staff/power is showing a face of apolitism but is really depicting liberals, anti leftist and centrist ideas (you can see that on this thread in majority)
- Toxicity is enabled in a number of discussion and the power only acts in the most radical cases (for example when there is clear case of harrasment and dogpilling, there is no reaction from the staff, and I'm not talking only about my case here)
- The majority of posters, just like in society are rejecting the politization of the story they are praising and are mostly leaning toward apolitism and liberalism. (a bit of progressism.. but not too much... Once someone question racist bias in a discussion, this is too much)
- There is a overwhelming presence of bigoted and conservative ideas and people in the places where politics are discussed and they bare an overwhelming stricking power.
- The radical, simple leftist ideas are invisibilized and laughed at. They are an extreme minority.
- The oppressions are only fought in surface and there is no systemic resolutions taken to stop any kind of bigotry

The point is simple : This forum is just a mini-representation of our society.

So.. what do we do when we want to better society ?

And the problem is not really van or Al, they are just the product of our politically confused society where nerd should not get to talk to much about politics in place were its not obvious.. They are the product of the win of "liberal centrism" the rise of conservatism and the depolitization of the masses..

But hey, this shouldn't stop us from questionning our environments.

Anyway.. note here the absence of warning shots. This time the staff/power knew that no matter how they acted, the debate would continue. So, the tool of the threadban was used. And it will continue as I will bring on and on politization of the subject and others.

So there are basically three way this could end:

- Either I stop talking about the political subjects because I'm tired of talking about it (lol, good luck with that)
- Either I'm banned definitely for keeping bringing up political subjects because those confused folks are tired of continuously banning me (and I will be ban again and again until they are tired of it)
- Either the staff understands that the rules about politics of the forum helps the invisibilization of strong important subjects and enable the development of toxic behaviors and they understands that politics have a place in EVERY debate as long as it is linked to the subject (like it was the case here) as politics are just the reflection on the conflict of values.

So.. @TheAncientCenturion , what is your prefered choice ?

Are you ready to endorse the definitive ban (or continuous ban) of someone on the principles that they are questionning the structure and political compass of your forum ?

Make a stance or ignore me. What do you believe in ?
"

In short. What I'm saying is that mods took the stand to never let shine any political light on already preexisting political discussions and behaviors in those kind of threads and are thus choosing to keep people in ignorance about the importance of questionning those position and behaviors there thus preventing anyone from ever questionning toxic behaviors that are enabled by a part of the staff that believe that some actually very problematic behaviors are allowed. (racism / sexism / harrassment etc.)

Anyway. This was predictable and I won the bet. I was indeed banned in less that 5 hours.


Anyway, this will give me more time to focus on the bigotry here, I will not give up just yet. There are still some worthy people here.

 

[Herrera95]

An interesting story from my home state. Stoner rats

More like disturbing story

Post automatically merged: Mar 16, 2024

"Apolotics" not understanding politics - episode 2156:

I will assume that you agree 100% with this descision @TheAncientCenturion.

Well, this just shows that this part of the community is bound to not evolve in term of progressism and stay completely ignorant about progressive subject sand thus will have to fight one day very serious accusations of bigotry.. but hey.. at least this staff took a stand about the subject. Not just the one that could make things better, but that's already a political choice, there is an evolution...



For those not understanding why I said that: I was banned most likely definitely from the Nakama thread for saying this:

"
All stories are political.

Meaning that a discussion about a stories has a LOT of chances to be political as well. And since we are discussing, debating and sometimes arguing about the next Nakama in the crew. We are putting in conflict different characters and therefore different values. And this is what politics are: A conflict of values.

And since some defensors of some character have used or are using some of the values of one character against the values of others.. the result is therefore even more politics than any other debate. Which makes this thread perfectly legitimate to have a political discussion in.

- When we explain that you don't need to be strong to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that you need to be an ally and not a murderer to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that a character's story had ended because the author choosed to show how important it is to find our own way to express freedom, we make politics
- When we explain that we should have more women in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that somefandom are toxic and why because of structural reasons, we make politics
- When we explain that a character should not be denied just because of their appearance, we make politics
Etc.

Political discussions are all over this thread without you even noticing it.
I'm only putting a spotlight on some of them.
"

It is a sequel to that post on the political thread:

"
What I didn't realized at the time is the political compass of the staff.

- Why are some mods considering that a forum for Mangas shouldn't get a political thread ?
- Why are some mods considering that saying that Minks are just dumb animals is completely normal ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing Carrot a feminine girl and praising another girl Yamato because of her having masculine attribute (while trashing her actual personnality) is not revealing of any sexist behavior ?
- Why are some mods considering that some form of transphobia are not acceptable but others are ?
- Why are some mods tickled by the action of someone politically labelling others ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing repetitively on a poster can't be considered toxic and in some cases harrassment ?
- Why are some mods considering normal that posters insults each others here ?
- Why are some mods considering we shouldn't act on the spread of negativity on a forum ?
- Why are some mods considering that calling out the toxicity of other is synonymous of being ourselve toxic ?


Added to that : the structures of power will always used their power/lies/gaslight/ to undermine the questionning of their structure. All the more in moments where the opposition has absolutely no way to contradict its words:

Remember what I said a few month ago: This forum is not just the place where a bunch of nerds reunites:

- The Staff/power is showing a face of apolitism but is really depicting liberals, anti leftist and centrist ideas (you can see that on this thread in majority)
- Toxicity is enabled in a number of discussion and the power only acts in the most radical cases (for example when there is clear case of harrasment and dogpilling, there is no reaction from the staff, and I'm not talking only about my case here)
- The majority of posters, just like in society are rejecting the politization of the story they are praising and are mostly leaning toward apolitism and liberalism. (a bit of progressism.. but not too much... Once someone question racist bias in a discussion, this is too much)
- There is a overwhelming presence of bigoted and conservative ideas and people in the places where politics are discussed and they bare an overwhelming stricking power.
- The radical, simple leftist ideas are invisibilized and laughed at. They are an extreme minority.
- The oppressions are only fought in surface and there is no systemic resolutions taken to stop any kind of bigotry

The point is simple : This forum is just a mini-representation of our society.

So.. what do we do when we want to better society ?

And the problem is not really van or Al, they are just the product of our politically confused society where nerd should not get to talk to much about politics in place were its not obvious.. They are the product of the win of "liberal centrism" the rise of conservatism and the depolitization of the masses..

But hey, this shouldn't stop us from questionning our environments.

Anyway.. note here the absence of warning shots. This time the staff/power knew that no matter how they acted, the debate would continue. So, the tool of the threadban was used. And it will continue as I will bring on and on politization of the subject and others.

So there are basically three way this could end:

- Either I stop talking about the political subjects because I'm tired of talking about it (lol, good luck with that)
- Either I'm banned definitely for keeping bringing up political subjects because those confused folks are tired of continuously banning me (and I will be ban again and again until they are tired of it)
- Either the staff understands that the rules about politics of the forum helps the invisibilization of strong important subjects and enable the development of toxic behaviors and they understands that politics have a place in EVERY debate as long as it is linked to the subject (like it was the case here) as politics are just the reflection on the conflict of values.

So.. @TheAncientCenturion , what is your prefered choice ?

Are you ready to endorse the definitive ban (or continuous ban) of someone on the principles that they are questionning the structure and political compass of your forum ?

Make a stance or ignore me mate. What do you believe in ?

In short. What I'm saying is that mods took the stand to never let shine any political light on already preexisting political discussions and behaviors in those kind of threads and are thus choosing to keep people in ignorance about the importance of questionning those position and behaviors there thus preventing anyone from ever questionning toxic behaviors that are enabled by a part of the staff that believe that some actually very problematic behaviors are allowed. (racism / sexism / harrassment etc.)

Anyway. This was predictable and I won the bet. I was indeed banned in less that 5 hours.

Apolitics, confusionnist and liberals.. you guys are really predictible.

Anyway, this will give me more time to focus on the bigotry here, I will not give up just yet. There are still some worthy people here.[/QUOTE]
Crying out because got caught breaking the rules episode 2178

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

"Apolotics" not understanding politics - episode 2156:

I will assume that you agree 100% with this descision @TheAncientCenturion.

Well, this just shows that this part of the community is bound to not evolve in term of progressism and stay completely ignorant about progressive subject sand thus will have to fight one day very serious accusations of bigotry.. but hey.. at least this staff took a stand about the subject. Not just the one that could make things better, but that's already a political choice, there is an evolution...



For those not understanding why I said that: I was banned most likely definitely from the Nakama thread for saying this:

"
All stories are political.

Meaning that a discussion about a stories has a LOT of chances to be political as well. And since we are discussing, debating and sometimes arguing about the next Nakama in the crew. We are putting in conflict different characters and therefore different values. And this is what politics are: A conflict of values.

And since some defensors of some character have used or are using some of the values of one character against the values of others.. the result is therefore even more politics than any other debate. Which makes this thread perfectly legitimate to have a political discussion in.

- When we explain that you don't need to be strong to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that you need to be an ally and not a murderer to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that a character's story had ended because the author choosed to show how important it is to find our own way to express freedom, we make politics
- When we explain that we should have more women in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that somefandom are toxic and why because of structural reasons, we make politics
- When we explain that a character should not be denied just because of their appearance, we make politics
Etc.

Political discussions are all over this thread without you even noticing it.
I'm only putting a spotlight on some of them.
"

It is a sequel to that post on the political thread:

"
What I didn't realized at the time is the political compass of the staff.

- Why are some mods considering that a forum for Mangas shouldn't get a political thread ?
- Why are some mods considering that saying that Minks are just dumb animals is completely normal ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing Carrot a feminine girl and praising another girl Yamato because of her having masculine attribute (while trashing her actual personnality) is not revealing of any sexist behavior ?
- Why are some mods considering that some form of transphobia are not acceptable but others are ?
- Why are some mods tickled by the action of someone politically labelling others ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing repetitively on a poster can't be considered toxic and in some cases harrassment ?
- Why are some mods considering normal that posters insults each others here ?
- Why are some mods considering we shouldn't act on the spread of negativity on a forum ?
- Why are some mods considering that calling out the toxicity of other is synonymous of being ourselve toxic ?


Added to that : the structures of power will always used their power/lies/gaslight/ to undermine the questionning of their structure. All the more in moments where the opposition has absolutely no way to contradict its words:

Remember what I said a few month ago: This forum is not just the place where a bunch of nerds reunites:

- The Staff/power is showing a face of apolitism but is really depicting liberals, anti leftist and centrist ideas (you can see that on this thread in majority)
- Toxicity is enabled in a number of discussion and the power only acts in the most radical cases (for example when there is clear case of harrasment and dogpilling, there is no reaction from the staff, and I'm not talking only about my case here)
- The majority of posters, just like in society are rejecting the politization of the story they are praising and are mostly leaning toward apolitism and liberalism. (a bit of progressism.. but not too much... Once someone question racist bias in a discussion, this is too much)
- There is a overwhelming presence of bigoted and conservative ideas and people in the places where politics are discussed and they bare an overwhelming stricking power.
- The radical, simple leftist ideas are invisibilized and laughed at. They are an extreme minority.
- The oppressions are only fought in surface and there is no systemic resolutions taken to stop any kind of bigotry

The point is simple : This forum is just a mini-representation of our society.

So.. what do we do when we want to better society ?

And the problem is not really van or Al, they are just the product of our politically confused society where nerd should not get to talk to much about politics in place were its not obvious.. They are the product of the win of "liberal centrism" the rise of conservatism and the depolitization of the masses..

But hey, this shouldn't stop us from questionning our environments.

Anyway.. note here the absence of warning shots. This time the staff/power knew that no matter how they acted, the debate would continue. So, the tool of the threadban was used. And it will continue as I will bring on and on politization of the subject and others.

So there are basically three way this could end:

- Either I stop talking about the political subjects because I'm tired of talking about it (lol, good luck with that)
- Either I'm banned definitely for keeping bringing up political subjects because those confused folks are tired of continuously banning me (and I will be ban again and again until they are tired of it)
- Either the staff understands that the rules about politics of the forum helps the invisibilization of strong important subjects and enable the development of toxic behaviors and they understands that politics have a place in EVERY debate as long as it is linked to the subject (like it was the case here) as politics are just the reflection on the conflict of values.

So.. @TheAncientCenturion , what is your prefered choice ?

Are you ready to endorse the definitive ban (or continuous ban) of someone on the principles that they are questionning the structure and political compass of your forum ?

Make a stance or ignore me mate. What do you believe in ?

In short. What I'm saying is that mods took the stand to never let shine any political light on already preexisting political discussions and behaviors in those kind of threads and are thus choosing to keep people in ignorance about the importance of questionning those position and behaviors there thus preventing anyone from ever questionning toxic behaviors that are enabled by a part of the staff that believe that some actually very problematic behaviors are allowed. (racism / sexism / harrassment etc.)

Anyway. This was predictable and I won the bet. I was indeed banned in less that 5 hours.


Apolitics, confusionnist and liberals.. you guys are really predictible. I'm actually glad that this was my last post there, it was really the best way to go lmao



Anyway, this will give me more time to focus on the bigotry here, I will not give up just yet. There are still some worthy people here.[/QUOTE]
Users complained about politics before which is why we have a specific section for them. Respect the wishes of other users.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

He's one of those types that sees "Fox" and immediately tries to make fun etc... granted it goes both ways I've seen /shrug. But it's telling on how disingenuous they could be without looking further. I suppose.

You can't when read my posts 🤣

 

[Ravagerblade]

Notice how it's basically only one individual whose parading around places trying to cause an issue? Seems very indicative of the individual and their constant pushing for a certain ideology. If you're not one of us you're against us mentality. Truly a Twisted worldview.

Post automatically merged: Mar 16, 2024

You can't when read my posts 🤣

When you think you've said something.

 

[Roo]

"Apolotics" not understanding politics - episode 2156:

I will assume that you agree 100% with this descision @TheAncientCenturion.

Well, this just shows that this part of the community is bound to not evolve in term of progressism and stay completely ignorant about progressive subject sand thus will have to fight one day very serious accusations of bigotry.. but hey.. at least this staff took a stand about the subject. Not just the one that could make things better, but that's already a political choice, there is an evolution...



For those not understanding why I said that: I was banned most likely definitely from the Nakama thread for saying this:

"
All stories are political.

Meaning that a discussion about a stories has a LOT of chances to be political as well. And since we are discussing, debating and sometimes arguing about the next Nakama in the crew. We are putting in conflict different characters and therefore different values. And this is what politics are: A conflict of values.

And since some defensors of some character have used or are using some of the values of one character against the values of others.. the result is therefore even more politics than any other debate. Which makes this thread perfectly legitimate to have a political discussion in.

- When we explain that you don't need to be strong to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that you need to be an ally and not a murderer to be accepted in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that a character's story had ended because the author choosed to show how important it is to find our own way to express freedom, we make politics
- When we explain that we should have more women in the group, we make politics
- When we explain that somefandom are toxic and why because of structural reasons, we make politics
- When we explain that a character should not be denied just because of their appearance, we make politics
Etc.

Political discussions are all over this thread without you even noticing it.
I'm only putting a spotlight on some of them.
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It is a sequel to that post on the political thread:

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What I didn't realized at the time is the political compass of the staff.

- Why are some mods considering that a forum for Mangas shouldn't get a political thread ?
- Why are some mods considering that saying that Minks are just dumb animals is completely normal ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing Carrot a feminine girl and praising another girl Yamato because of her having masculine attribute (while trashing her actual personnality) is not revealing of any sexist behavior ?
- Why are some mods considering that some form of transphobia are not acceptable but others are ?
- Why are some mods tickled by the action of someone politically labelling others ?
- Why are some mods considering that trashing repetitively on a poster can't be considered toxic and in some cases harrassment ?
- Why are some mods considering normal that posters insults each others here ?
- Why are some mods considering we shouldn't act on the spread of negativity on a forum ?
- Why are some mods considering that calling out the toxicity of other is synonymous of being ourselve toxic ?


Added to that : the structures of power will always used their power/lies/gaslight/ to undermine the questionning of their structure. All the more in moments where the opposition has absolutely no way to contradict its words:

Remember what I said a few month ago: This forum is not just the place where a bunch of nerds reunites:

- The Staff/power is showing a face of apolitism but is really depicting liberals, anti leftist and centrist ideas (you can see that on this thread in majority)
- Toxicity is enabled in a number of discussion and the power only acts in the most radical cases (for example when there is clear case of harrasment and dogpilling, there is no reaction from the staff, and I'm not talking only about my case here)
- The majority of posters, just like in society are rejecting the politization of the story they are praising and are mostly leaning toward apolitism and liberalism. (a bit of progressism.. but not too much... Once someone question racist bias in a discussion, this is too much)
- There is a overwhelming presence of bigoted and conservative ideas and people in the places where politics are discussed and they bare an overwhelming stricking power.
- The radical, simple leftist ideas are invisibilized and laughed at. They are an extreme minority.
- The oppressions are only fought in surface and there is no systemic resolutions taken to stop any kind of bigotry

The point is simple : This forum is just a mini-representation of our society.

So.. what do we do when we want to better society ?

And the problem is not really van or Al, they are just the product of our politically confused society where nerd should not get to talk to much about politics in place were its not obvious.. They are the product of the win of "liberal centrism" the rise of conservatism and the depolitization of the masses..

But hey, this shouldn't stop us from questionning our environments.

Anyway.. note here the absence of warning shots. This time the staff/power knew that no matter how they acted, the debate would continue. So, the tool of the threadban was used. And it will continue as I will bring on and on politization of the subject and others.

So there are basically three way this could end:

- Either I stop talking about the political subjects because I'm tired of talking about it (lol, good luck with that)
- Either I'm banned definitely for keeping bringing up political subjects because those confused folks are tired of continuously banning me (and I will be ban again and again until they are tired of it)
- Either the staff understands that the rules about politics of the forum helps the invisibilization of strong important subjects and enable the development of toxic behaviors and they understands that politics have a place in EVERY debate as long as it is linked to the subject (like it was the case here) as politics are just the reflection on the conflict of values.

So.. @TheAncientCenturion , what is your prefered choice ?

Are you ready to endorse the definitive ban (or continuous ban) of someone on the principles that they are questionning the structure and political compass of your forum ?

Make a stance or ignore me mate. What do you believe in ?

I am of the idea that every piece of art is political since art is a form of expression.

I also do not like politics being inserted in every conversation we have, even when discussing art. Those two things can coexist.