Bougya The Great Debate: ACoC or not?

After reading my explanation what is your opinion?


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Herrera95

Ridiculous, first Zoro never got AdCoC..

Second, this CoA Lightning from the clash between Zoro and Lucci, it's not comming from Zoro..
Holy fuck...

Zoro has ACoC more than confirmed.

He didn't clashed with Lucci here. He just attacked him with haki. What you mean doesn't cones from Zoro.

Next chapter we have the confirmation defeat of Lucci
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ACoC doesn't produce the no touching, that's ACoA. Anyways it's likely conqueror, im unsure due to how inconsistent black lighting is drawn by Oda.
Yet Law only saw the bo touching effect when Luffy used ACoC.
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Yeah the lightning emanates from the point of impact(Lucci's body) in all directions, therefore a classh..

How you know Lucci got 1 shot by Zoro?.. Did Kaido get one shot by Ashura on the roof.. No..
Kaido didn't had blank eyes and was screaming like a bitch. But you right we lack confirmation.
 
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Herrera95

Back then we thought it was because Luffy and Katakuri were both COC users and it was the collision of Supreme Kings Trebol talked about. At least I didn't think it was COA only
And yeah Oda is a bum that never planned his power system properly
What about King Punch from King Elizabello

 
Yeah the lightning emanates from the point of impact(Lucci's body) in all directions, therefore a classh..

How you know Lucci got 1 shot by Zoro?.. Did Kaido get one shot by Ashura on the roof.. No..
a clash is where both parties participate. And only Zoro have blitzed Lucci so its an impact of Zoro's attack not a clash. Which means the lightning is Zoro's.

Well its true we don't know if Lucci got 1 shot but.. his eyes are white so for now its night night for Lucci aka 1 shot.
But if u mean that Zoro could have landed attacks on lucci earlier off screen. I doubt it because we can see bruises but not cuts on Lucci.
 
Holy fuck...

Zoro has ACoC more than confirmed.

He didn't clashed with Lucci here. He just attacked him with haki. What you mean doesn't cones from Zoro.

Next chapter we have the confirmation defeat of Lucci
Far from comfirmed when it's only CoA..

Lucci's body clashed with Zoro's swords, same as the Scabbards replica of Paradise Totsuka against Kaido..

Kaido didn't had blank eyes and was screaming like a bitch. But you right we lack confirmation.
Kaido eyes went blank against the 4 Scabbards last attack..


a clash is where both parties participate. And only Zoro have blitzed Lucci so its an impact of Zoro's attack not a clash. Which means the lightning is Zoro's.

Well its true we don't know if Lucci got 1 shot but.. his eyes are white so for now its night night for Lucci aka 1 shot.
But if u mean that Zoro could have landed attacks on lucci earlier off screen. I doubt it because we can see bruises but not cuts on Lucci.
Lucci is resisting the attack with his body and CoA, we see Lucci saw Zoro coming.. This is what it looks like when a proficient Haki user tanks a cutting haki attack, it creates a Haki clash even if he gets cut.. You think Zoro called Lucci resilient just so he could done by a YC3 attack.. Completely bogus..

Kaido's eyes go white against the Scabbards..
 
Lucci's body clashed with Zoro's swords
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Dayum!!! that made my day LMAO

This is what it looks like when a proficient Haki user tanks a cutting haki attack, it creates a Haki clash even if he gets cut.. You think Zoro called Lucci resilient just so he could done by a YC3 attack.. Completely bogus..

Kaido's eyes go white against the Scabbards..
Clash when both parties are engaging each others. Unless you think Kid and Killer clashed bodies with Shanks Zoro too? and their haki is so proficient they created those lightnings?

Kaido's eyes went white because he was actually "knocked out" even for a bit. Even G4 Kong Gatling knocked out Kaido but he still came right back up.

Now Lucci here has fainted out he could recover back next chapter or he could be taking a nap. He is after all Awakened Zoan. He got up from Funny Luffy attack so whos to say he won't be back up from Zoro's attack.

White eyes = knocked out. Hence why he got 1 shot.
 
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Herrera95

Far from comfirmed when it's only CoA..

Lucci's body clashed with Zoro's swords, same as the Scabbards replica of Paradise Totsuka against Kaido..
Every visual representation of CoC coating was showed for Zoro.

And by your logic everything is a clash. Ridiculous.

Kaido eyes went blank against the 4 Scabbards last attack..
Thats why I said I agree with you that is not confirmed defeat.
 
Imo it doesn't matter what zoro used it's still good for zoro. If it was adcoc then it proves and shows zoro has mastered that ability a mid tier attack with it is enough to overwhelm someone as strong as Lucci. If it isn't it just wanks Zoro's coa to be even more impressive. At the end of the day it's just a great showing for Zoro's haki either coa or coc gets hyped.
 
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Dayum!!! that made my day LMAO


Clash when both parties are engaging each others. Unless you think Kid and Killer clashed bodies with Shanks Zoro too? and their haki is so proficient they created those lightnings?

Kaido's eyes went white because he was actually "knocked out" even for a bit. Even G4 Kong Gatling knocked out Kaido but he still came right back up.

Now Lucci here has fainted out he could recover back next chapter or he could be taking a nap. He is after all Awakened Zoan. He got up from Funny Luffy attack so whos to say he won't be back up from Zoro's attack.

White eyes = knocked out. Hence why he got 1 shot.
Haki clash are different than physical clash, it can happens when a haki user receive damages..
Killer's haki was too weak for it to be a clash, Kaido one shotting Luffy for the first time was a Haki clash as much as Luffy barely dodging the second time on the rooftop and getting hurt..

Someone's eyes going white doesn't mean they get knocked out, what the hell..


Every visual representation of CoC coating was showed for Zoro.

And by your logic everything is a clash. Ridiculous.


Thats why I said I agree with you that is not confirmed defeat.
Wrong, Zoro never no touched and never will.. He doesn't have AdCoC..
 
Haki clash are different than physical clash, it can happens when a haki user receive damages..
Killer's haki was too weak for it to be a clash, Kaido one shotting Luffy for the first time was a Haki clash as much as Luffy barely dodging the second time on the rooftop and getting hurt..

Someone's eyes going white doesn't mean they get knocked out, what the hell..
You didn't read my post well. LOL

Regarding the white eyes = knocked out. Means they fainted. How fast can they recover? it could 1 sec BUT for now we don't know so it counts as knocked out.

Lucci didn't clash with his body against Zoro. Because Lucci was attacking Zoro already so his focus was "attacking" he got cut and there is no clash lol only blitz cut there is no way you can convince me that Lucci struck that pose to "clash" with Zoro

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Regarding the white eyes = knocked out. Means they fainted. How fast can they recover? it could 1 sec BUT for now we don't know so it counts as knocked out.
I don't agree with the premise, so..

Lucci didn't clash with his body against Zoro. Because Lucci was attacking Zoro already so his focus was "attacking" he got cut and there is no clash lol only blitz cut there is no way you can convince me that Lucci struck that pose to "clash" with Zoro
Even if Lucci was outplayed, he saw Zoro coming at him.. So he was able to brace himself for the attack, creating a Haki clash.. I'm not saying Lucci blocked it or anything, it's just explaining the Haki clash..

 
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