From what we know logia users are normally ONLY able to
a) turn into their logia elments and with that also gain intangibility
and b) create their element from out of their bodies
Those two abilities, are in fact the only two core abilities every logia fruit user has shown and therefore has in common with each other., independent of their presumed level of mastery and experience. Which leads to me to believe, that the only core principle for logia fruits at a non-awakened state seems to be that the user's body is the only source of power for their ability!
Then HOW come that there are a lot of abilities that oppose that very one principle?
Conjuration with implemented tasks
If at base, their body is their only source of power, how come that some logia users can create their element out of thin air without any physical connection to their actual body?
And how come that all of those techs are always accompanied by specific arm- and hand gestures, as if they were conjuring their moves?
For comparison, Kizaru doing his base moves
and Kizaru performing yasakani no magatama
See the difference? His base moves are created from his body, while Yasakani (and the other two sacred jewel attacks) are conjured with particular gestures.
Some moves even resemble each other so much, that they seem like they could be each other's counterparts in a way
In those cases both attacks are even part of what seems to be a unique and overarching ability concept, that entails those attacks, and can be identified as such due to their naming.
Kuzan even uses the "ice block/mass:.." concept again for his signature move, making it an established ability concept of his.
That approach strongly resembles the one, Oda used for the awakenings of Katakuri and Doflamingo. They also control most of their awakening techs with arm- and hand gestures and have a special name for those moves.
Katakuri even creates, very similar to them, mochi portals in the air, from which he then summons or conjures his power mochis
Obvious parallels seem to exist inbetween those fruits and their presumed awakening apporach. Parallels that don't end here.
Covering the ground in one's element
Logia users additionally seem to be able to cover the ground of the battlefield in their respective element. An ability they can activate in order to perform different moves.
If we compare that ability again to the abilities of Doflamingo and Katakuri it gets clear, that the activation and the effect of it are very alike again.
But even though they are very similar, a certain difference seems to exist. Unlike Doflamingo and Katakuri, they do not seem to turn the ground into their element, they instead only seem to cover the ground.
In case of Ace's flame commandments Oda again went for an overarching ability concept, that then entails the actual attacks. It seems like the commandments are used as a resource for creating different attacks
and those attacks happen to be very powerful and one was even Ace's most powerful by far
Titan form: absorbing your element
I think awakened logia users are also going to be able to assume a gigantic titan form .We have seen those multiple times already. The first and most iconic one was Enel's Amaru
But we have also seen it with Caesar and Greenbull
If you look carefully at the following picture, it looks like Enel only assumed that form thanks to a lightning strike coming from the sky.
And when Greenbull is assuming his form, he's seemingly connected to the ground via roots, bascially looking like he's merged with the ground.
That is even further evident, when Shanks' haki makes him quit that form
He's clearly rooted to the ground.
Not even his presumed environmental-manipulation-ability, that I will still talk about, requires him to do that
I think that this makes it very likely, that he actually has to merge with the ground and absorb its energy in order to assume his titan form.
That would concide with the way how Caesar was able to assume his Shinokuni form aswell. He did so by absorbing the shinokuni gas, which also gave this form its name
The only difference is, that Caesar did it by absorbing an artifically created resource, while the others likely assumed that form by absorbing a natural resource. Whether or not it makes a difference in the context of logia awakening is up for debate.
Anyway all of this goes to show that logia users are definitely able to assume a titan form by absorbing their element.
And if I'd have to guess, I'd say that Oda probably got inspired by the titans from Disneys Hercules
Afterall he's a very big Disney fan, if you didn't know.
Environmental (/Atmospheric-) manipulation: the fuel source
I think we can all agree on the fact, that Oda has to explain how certain phenomena came into existence within the OP world.
We also know that Ace was able to do something very similar
He wouldn't have included that bit into the story, if it wouldn't lead to something.
Furthermore we have even seen Greenbull doing exactly that within the present story, only affecting the ground beneath him instead of the atmosphere, cause of the differences in their fruits
Logia fruit users are obviously able to develop an ability that allows them to affect the atmosphere or more generally their surrounding environment. An ability that I'd call environmental manipulation.
I think that this ability is the core ability of awakening and so by default I think that atleast Ace, Akainu, Aokiji and Greenbull were/are awakened for sure. It's basically the figurehead of what logia awakening is all about: affecting your surrounding environment, which leads to the other abilities.
I think that this ability mainly serves the logia users as a fuel source/resource for the other abilities I mentioned, very similar to how Ace's Entei was fueled by his dai enkai's flames.
I think this ability is gonna be the game changing one, not because of its permanent and at times extremely devastating effect, but rather because I assume it's going to improve the power and the size of the conjuration-abilites drastically and it might be needed in order to create the energy resource for the titan form, if one's element is not naturally accessible within their surroundings:
- Ace fighting on a winter island
– Kizaru fighting at night time
– Enel fighting under a clear sky etc.
The drawback: It will actually change the atmosphere/the surrounding environment, which in most cases is not really desired. Greenbull for example cannot just transform Mary Geoise into a forest if he fights and Akainu and Aokiji cannot just fuck up an inhabited island's climate, which is why they chose Punk Hazard in the first place.
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a) turn into their logia elments and with that also gain intangibility
and b) create their element from out of their bodies
Those two abilities, are in fact the only two core abilities every logia fruit user has shown and therefore has in common with each other., independent of their presumed level of mastery and experience. Which leads to me to believe, that the only core principle for logia fruits at a non-awakened state seems to be that the user's body is the only source of power for their ability!
Then HOW come that there are a lot of abilities that oppose that very one principle?
Conjuration with implemented tasks
If at base, their body is their only source of power, how come that some logia users can create their element out of thin air without any physical connection to their actual body?
And how come that all of those techs are always accompanied by specific arm- and hand gestures, as if they were conjuring their moves?
For comparison, Kizaru doing his base moves
and Kizaru performing yasakani no magatama
See the difference? His base moves are created from his body, while Yasakani (and the other two sacred jewel attacks) are conjured with particular gestures.
Some moves even resemble each other so much, that they seem like they could be each other's counterparts in a way
In those cases both attacks are even part of what seems to be a unique and overarching ability concept, that entails those attacks, and can be identified as such due to their naming.
Kuzan even uses the "ice block/mass:.." concept again for his signature move, making it an established ability concept of his.
That approach strongly resembles the one, Oda used for the awakenings of Katakuri and Doflamingo. They also control most of their awakening techs with arm- and hand gestures and have a special name for those moves.
Katakuri even creates, very similar to them, mochi portals in the air, from which he then summons or conjures his power mochis
Obvious parallels seem to exist inbetween those fruits and their presumed awakening apporach. Parallels that don't end here.
Covering the ground in one's element
Logia users additionally seem to be able to cover the ground of the battlefield in their respective element. An ability they can activate in order to perform different moves.
In case of Ace's flame commandments Oda again went for an overarching ability concept, that then entails the actual attacks. It seems like the commandments are used as a resource for creating different attacks
Titan form: absorbing your element
I think awakened logia users are also going to be able to assume a gigantic titan form .We have seen those multiple times already. The first and most iconic one was Enel's Amaru
But we have also seen it with Caesar and Greenbull
That is even further evident, when Shanks' haki makes him quit that form
Not even his presumed environmental-manipulation-ability, that I will still talk about, requires him to do that
That would concide with the way how Caesar was able to assume his Shinokuni form aswell. He did so by absorbing the shinokuni gas, which also gave this form its name
Anyway all of this goes to show that logia users are definitely able to assume a titan form by absorbing their element.
And if I'd have to guess, I'd say that Oda probably got inspired by the titans from Disneys Hercules
Afterall he's a very big Disney fan, if you didn't know.
Environmental (/Atmospheric-) manipulation: the fuel source
I think we can all agree on the fact, that Oda has to explain how certain phenomena came into existence within the OP world.
He wouldn't have included that bit into the story, if it wouldn't lead to something.
Furthermore we have even seen Greenbull doing exactly that within the present story, only affecting the ground beneath him instead of the atmosphere, cause of the differences in their fruits
I think that this ability is the core ability of awakening and so by default I think that atleast Ace, Akainu, Aokiji and Greenbull were/are awakened for sure. It's basically the figurehead of what logia awakening is all about: affecting your surrounding environment, which leads to the other abilities.
I think that this ability mainly serves the logia users as a fuel source/resource for the other abilities I mentioned, very similar to how Ace's Entei was fueled by his dai enkai's flames.
I think this ability is gonna be the game changing one, not because of its permanent and at times extremely devastating effect, but rather because I assume it's going to improve the power and the size of the conjuration-abilites drastically and it might be needed in order to create the energy resource for the titan form, if one's element is not naturally accessible within their surroundings:
- Ace fighting on a winter island
– Kizaru fighting at night time
– Enel fighting under a clear sky etc.
The drawback: It will actually change the atmosphere/the surrounding environment, which in most cases is not really desired. Greenbull for example cannot just transform Mary Geoise into a forest if he fights and Akainu and Aokiji cannot just fuck up an inhabited island's climate, which is why they chose Punk Hazard in the first place.
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Thanks for reading!
Some tags
If you find time I'd appreciate your feedback!
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