Rate Sanji new Elbaf outfit ?


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Doggo

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The only reason why most Sanji fans wanted Sanji vs King is because they wanted an aerial fight, it's the same reason why they want Sanji vs Laffitte.
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Face the facts, Sanji won't fight Laffitte.

If Oda decides to give Sanji an aerial fight then maybe it will be against Mars.
Aerial fight aside, I want Sanji vs Lafitte because they are my favorite characters from both groups.
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That's pizzaro with df like pica

And, the one who destroyed his arm by using Honesty impact is Coby
It's the "evolved" version of Pica's fruit. Island fruit.
Just researched it and it looks mid. How is he taking damage from people hitting the environment. Pica never took damage from the environment. Seems like he'll be defeated in a dumb way.
 
Pizarro tanked a ACOC island lenght black lightning named attack from Garp to the head with minimal damage, I understand why one would not be excited for island guy vs Sanji and would prefer a more nimble fighter but the downplay is weird as fuck to me.
He’s definitely strong; but at the same time he’s just big. It’s an uninteresting power that just doesn’t fit the dynamic Oda goes with for Sanjis opponents.

Coby vs Pizarro makes sense though
 
He’s definitely strong; but at the same time he’s just big. It’s an uninteresting power that just doesn’t fit the dynamic Oda goes with for Sanjis opponents.

Coby vs Pizarro makes sense though
My reasoning is basic
As I see it except if Franky upgrade his radical beam to island wide DC post-Egghead no mid trio straw hat has any hope of taking him down. Their AP is like that of an ant to a human when facing an island guy.
So this leaves either Sanji or Jinbe, and I'm not confident in Jinbe ever having AP comparable to Garp. Man peaked already.
If Pizarro gets taken down by someone exterior to the crew it solves the "problem" though.
 
He’s definitely strong; but at the same time he’s just big. It’s an uninteresting power that just doesn’t fit the dynamic Oda goes with for Sanjis opponents.

Coby vs Pizarro makes sense though
If Oda was following this kind of 'logic' that you think he is then Sanji would have fought King and not Queen(I hope he doesn't fight Pizzaro too, but still).
 
If Oda was following this kind of 'logic' that you think he is then Sanji would have fought King and not Queen(I hope he doesn't fight Pizzaro too, but still).
Why? Queen was a tricky fighter. He’s strong and big yes; but his main powers were the versatility and trickiness of his technology. That’s the big difference is Sanjis opponents almost all have that trickiness. Whether it’s Bon who used his friends faces, Jabra who kept using dirty schemes and lies to try and catch people off guard, or Absalom the invisible man pre timeskip and now Queen.

The one who fits this pattern is the hypnotist and the fact that people try and say Burgess or Pizarro fit just make no sense cause both are 2D fights with just “big punch” or “strong punch.”

My reasoning is basic
As I see it except if Franky upgrade his radical beam to island wide DC post-Egghead no mid trio straw hat has any hope of taking him down. Their AP is like that of an ant to a human when facing an island guy.
So this leaves either Sanji or Jinbe, and I'm not confident in Jinbe ever having AP comparable to Garp. Man peaked already.
If Pizarro gets taken down by someone exterior to the crew it solves the "problem" though.
That’s why I say it’ll be Coby. Pizarro working as a training tool for him like how Garp literally used mountain sandbags is very fitting to show how Coby can get stronger. Coby clashed with Pizarro here and was only able to hurt Pizarros forearm; and I’m sure Coby himself realizes that Pizarro was the reason Garp stayed back while everyone ran away.

The fight works narratively and power wise as Coby will become strong so fighting one of Blackbeards main 5 works. But he’ll never be as strong as the monster trio; so Pizarro who just doesnt have as good of portrayal as Shiryu and Lafitte works
 
Pizarro tanked a ACOC island lenght black lightning named attack from Garp to the head with minimal damage, I understand why one would not be excited for island guy vs Sanji and would prefer a more nimble fighter but the downplay is weird as fuck to me. He was a bigger threat than Shiryu on Hachinosu
I'm not downplaying Pizarro, it's just that I would love Sanji to tackle an opponent who can counter his kind of invisibility (which is actually speed).
I overall think that BBP are very formidable and can't wait for the eventual SHP vs BBC clash. And I'd prefer no outsiders, I want all SH to shine.
 
He’s definitely strong; but at the same time he’s just big. It’s an uninteresting power that just doesn’t fit the dynamic Oda goes with for Sanjis opponents.

Coby vs Pizarro makes sense though
I just hope LOda doesn't pit Sanji against Sanjuan Wolf. It will just be just as lame as Sanji+Jinbei vs Wadatsumi, whose only gimmick was making himself bigger.

LOda can never make giant fights satisfying except maybe SH vs Oars and Zoro vs Pica. Other than that, they only ever exist to serve as hypetools even though Oda doesn't seem to realize that gimmick has run dry since no fan seems to take giants seriously now because of how often Oda does it and how a giant's body mass becomes as light as a feather for the sake of said hypetools. Frankly, Wolf deserved better than getting oneshotted so easily.

A Wolf fight will probably be lame no matter what since no one else on the crew can grow as big as Robin except Luffy, and Luffy's opponent is already set in stone as Blackbeard himself. So whoever gets stuck with Wolf will be in for a short and lame fight.

As for Pizarro, imo the only way a Pizarro vs Straw Hat fight could be cool is if its Pizarro vs Robin, since they can both turn giant and grow dozens of limbs. Either that or Pizarro vs Franky, since the Battle Franky's got size and firepower.
 
I just hope LOda doesn't pit Sanji against Sanjuan Wolf. It will just be just as lame as Sanji+Jinbei vs Wadatsumi, whose only gimmick was making himself bigger.

LOda can never make giant fights satisfying except maybe SH vs Oars and Zoro vs Pica. Other than that, they only ever exist to serve as hypetools even though Oda doesn't seem to realize that gimmick has run dry since no fan seems to take giants seriously now because of how often Oda does it and how a giant's body mass becomes as light as a feather for the sake of said hypetools. Frankly, Wolf deserved better than getting oneshotted so easily.

A Wolf fight will probably be lame no matter what since no one else on the crew can grow as big as Robin except Luffy, and Luffy's opponent is already set in stone as Blackbeard himself. So whoever gets stuck with Wolf will be in for a short and lame fight.

As for Pizarro, imo the only way a Pizarro vs Straw Hat fight could be cool is if its Pizarro vs Robin, since they can both turn giant and grow dozens of limbs. Either that or Pizarro vs Franky, since the Battle Franky's got size and firepower.
Nah wolf is for Franky. He wants to make a giant robot of his dream like Vegapunk so he’ll probably turn the sunny into a super docking robot.

And yeah Pizarros not fighting a straw hat. The straw hats will have allies in this war; namely SWORD
 
Why? Queen was a tricky fighter. He’s strong and big yes; but his main powers were the versatility and trickiness of his technology. That’s the big difference is Sanjis opponents almost all have that trickiness. Whether it’s Bon who used his friends faces, Jabra who kept using dirty schemes and lies to try and catch people off guard, or Absalom the invisible man pre timeskip and now Queen.

The one who fits this pattern is the hypnotist and the fact that people try and say Burgess or Pizarro fit just make no sense cause both are 2D fights with just “big punch” or “strong punch.”
And technically, King was Sanji's opponent for more than once, but he fought Queen due to all the Germa stuff, while Zoro focused on the "black mummy"
 

Doggo

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Why? Queen was a tricky fighter. He’s strong and big yes; but his main powers were the versatility and trickiness of his technology. That’s the big difference is Sanjis opponents almost all have that trickiness. Whether it’s Bon who used his friends faces, Jabra who kept using dirty schemes and lies to try and catch people off guard, or Absalom the invisible man pre timeskip and now Queen.

The one who fits this pattern is the hypnotist and the fact that people try and say Burgess or Pizarro fit just make no sense cause both are 2D fights with just “big punch” or “strong punch.”


That’s why I say it’ll be Coby. Pizarro working as a training tool for him like how Garp literally used mountain sandbags is very fitting to show how Coby can get stronger. Coby clashed with Pizarro here and was only able to hurt Pizarros forearm; and I’m sure Coby himself realizes that Pizarro was the reason Garp stayed back while everyone ran away.

The fight works narratively and power wise as Coby will become strong so fighting one of Blackbeards main 5 works. But he’ll never be as strong as the monster trio; so Pizarro who just doesnt have as good of portrayal as Shiryu and Lafitte works
People give Queen much less credit that he should have.
99% of One Piece characters aren't some megaman-swiss-army-knife-10-billion-different-movesets.
Sanji, for instance, have kicks.
Then kicks on fire.
And finally, kicking the air to fly.
Doesn't matter if they have different names. It's all just kicks.
Zoro has a bunch of "teleport behind you" different sword attacks names, but all more or less the same shit.
Etc.

Then you get people complaining about "laser spam". He used lasers, he used his drills, he used some cursed snake form, he used retractable limbs, he even used swords.

He's no more gimmicky than any Lunarian we've seen so far.
I too would have preferred Sanji vs King, and also would've loved if Sanji vs Queen was less fragmented. But saying it was a "bad" fight is just nuts to me.
Sanji had an amazing entrance, used a lot of tools, took hits, got PU's, and was solidified was luffy's left hand man, and y'all wanna act as if Oda has some vendetta against the characters because of some meme viral story of his VA fucking Oda's wife.
Sanji doesn't suffer any more than half of the crew does. He has less moment than pre-TS purely because there's a much wider cast that needs moments as well. So he gets diluted. Luffy and Zoro are the main "fighters", but Sanji has always been the main "non-fighter" of the crew. It's nothing "new".
The drought of fights Sanji had, or how lazy Oda's been portraying his personality is something every other SH, aside from luffy and zoro, is also suffering.
Here in Egghead Sanji had the best showing against the Seraphim out of the M3.
The Kizaru thing, it's much more Luffy's fault than Sanji's. Kizaru's kick did nothing to him but he was told to leave the fight scene because of the Nika show. Also, Kizaru is not Sanji's Admiral opponent. That's Aramaki. Him and Fuji had a similar introduction akin to King and Queen's.

Y'all need to chill the fuck down and stop acting as if One Piece is some generic shounen with 90% fights and 10% anything else. The fights were always One Piece's weakest aspect from chapter 1.
 
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