Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

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She really doesn’t. Luffy one shot Kizaru twice. The amount of AP shown necessary to KO BM is nothing any of the current admirals have shown to be capable of. Not to mention she split the sky with Kaido while not a single admiral is confirmed to have CoC or even awakening for that matter.

And regardless of how weak you think Kidd is, he is a 3 billion berry pirate, the same bounty as a yonko and the admirals.

This doesn’t mean Kidd is as strong as Luffy or the admirals. But it does mean that he is the bare minimum you need to surpass in order to even qualify as a 3 billion berry man. Not counting the obvious gag character Buggy.
You don’t one shot someone if they’re still conscious.
 

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She really doesn’t. Luffy one shot Kizaru twice. The amount of AP shown necessary to KO BM is nothing any of the current admirals have shown to be capable of. Not to mention she split the sky with Kaido while not a single admiral is confirmed to have CoC or even awakening for that matter.

And regardless of how weak you think Kidd is, he is a 3 billion berry pirate, the same bounty as a yonko and the admirals.

This doesn’t mean Kidd is as strong as Luffy or the admirals. But it does mean that he is the bare minimum you need to surpass in order to even qualify as a 3 billion berry man. Not counting the obvious gag character Buggy.
Man, double standards are peak in this arc



Zoro makes Lucci drenched in blood to an extent he can't fight longer....

Haters - Zoro didn't beat Lucci


Luffy and kiz both fell down


Haters - luffy one shot kiz ignoring that kiz got up first without food and second time he isn't even koed but just lying down conflicted
 
I’m talking about a 1-2 shot though ‘cause that’s what some say that current Zoro could do. It all stemmed from the Oden fight which was honestly an outlier feat due to panel time constraint. Oda had to visibly show that Oden was on Kaido’s level or could even defeat him without giving away any of Kaido’s moveset.

Anyways maybe EoS Zoro (someone stronger than Oden) could 1-2 shot Kaido if he lands clean Asuras. Current Zoro? Definitely not, Kaido or BM will eat those then will proceed to whack Zoro. Luffy busted out a Bajrang Gun level move to make sure he knocks out a low hp Kaito. Luffy knew it was all or nothing at that moment regardless if a strong resistance from Kaido will be met.

Maybe current Zoro’s ap is enough to 1 shot “regular human top-tiers” like Shanks but not the top-tiers known for durability/endurance. I’d reckon someone like WB and current Luffy could also endure KoH Asura. Other top-tiers like Akainu or Teach also seem to have a very monstrous endurance with unknown thresholds.

Tl;dr If Lucci could stand proud after an attack like that then it’s easier to imagine top-tiers doing the same to higher-end moves. They should have much better physicals, and haki after all. Anyways, no more Zoro 1 shots this and that meme just because they don’t have Kaido’s skin lol. It all depends on the character’s endurance in the end.
Zoro can't beat any tanky fighter that's inbetweener and up unless he spams KOH moves to the max

Right now Ashura still won't weaken Kaido or NM that much
 
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