General & Others Why do some people believe Zoro is stronger then his own captain when this is a shounen manga?

[Blazing Lion]

Kaido fought both of them yet he didn't single out Zoro. Kaido always believed Luffy was the only one that could challenge him.
This was before he got sent down.

Same with Lucci.
Zoro used AdvCoC attack (KoH) which resulted in big gashes across Lucci's body. But he didn't lose consciousness and he still took subsequent attack from Jinbei. The fight took ages to finish where as Luffy was done and had already finished off Kizaru and was fighting Gorosei. Luffy didn't even use any Conqueror's haki attacks in that fight.

Same people here would have you believe Cutting attacks are superior. Yet both instances of Zoro using AdvCoC attacks against Kaido and Lucci never resulted in anything other than big cuts.

Panels and feats comparison please, not headcanon

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

I only know that Mihawk > Ryuma~Nusjuro > Roger

Ryuma > Nusjuro .

 

[Topi Jerami]

And @Fujishiro ran away just like Luffy did from Fujitora and Big Mom despite his Dressrosa speech

 

[Fujishiro]

And @Fujishiro ran away just like Luffy did from Fujitora and Big Mom despite his Dressrosa speech

I didnt run away? Why do you keep tagging me? Im just letting the thread run its course as Im curious about the answers here.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

And @Fujishiro ran away just like Luffy did from Fujitora and Big Mom despite his Dressrosa speech

He didn't run from Issho, the crew forced him to stop fighting him.
And he didn't beat Big Mom because he thought Kaido needed to go down more.

 

[Cruxroux]

He didn't run from Issho, the crew forced him to stop fighting him.
And he didn't beat Big Mom because he thought Kaido needed to go down more.

Let's be honest both of them would Pressed luffy into a sheet of paper , Even zoro won't survive. It was too early to fight top tiers.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Let's be honest both of them would Pressed luffy into a sheet of paper , Even zoro won't survive. It was too early to fight top tiers.

I know that, I was just saying.

 

[kumae]

@nik87 @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Aknolagon @Blazing Lion
Goofy bros worst nightmare

 

[Topi Jerami]

He didn't run from Issho, the crew forced him to stop fighting him.
And he didn't beat Big Mom because he thought Kaido needed to go down more.

Oda had Lucci appeared in Dressrosa but hid him from the Straw Hats, because he is as strong as Fujitora but not as merciful. Early game over if DR Luffy fought Lucci back then.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Oda had Lucci appeared in Dressrosa but hid him from the Straw Hats, because he is as strong as Fujitora but not as merciful. Early game over if DR Luffy fought Lucci back then.

Dressrosa pecking order:
Issho > Luffy >~ or => Zoro > Lucci > Doflamingo

 

[nik87]

Even zoro won't survive.

According to Nami, Big Mom would have been clapped if they brought Zoro.
By default that applies to Fujitora as well.

Dressrosa pecking order:
Issho > Luffy >~ or => Zoro > Lucci > Doflamingo

Which means that the pecking order starts with Zoro and all others line up after him.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

According to Nami, Big Mom would have been clapped if they brought Zoro.
By default that applies to Fujitora as well.

Which means that the pecking order starts with Zoro and all others line up after him.

Can you post that panel cause I've been looking for it for a while and I haven't found it since the first time I fully read the series

 

[JoNdule]

Oda had Lucci appeared in Dressrosa but hid him from the Straw Hats, because he is as strong as Fujitora but not as merciful. Early game over if DR Luffy fought Lucci back then.

Please stop your madness

 

[Cruxroux]

According to Nami, Big Mom would have been clapped if they brought Zoro.
By default that applies to Fujitora as well.

When did nami say that.
Yea if they fight together... But pre wano Zoro is like he give a decent but loose eventually. High-extreme diff.

 

[nik87]

Can you post that panel cause I've been looking for it for a while and I haven't found it since the first time I fully read the series

You shouldn't have any doubts in the first place after you saw what DR Zoro was capable of when he flexed on the rooftop...

When did nami say that.
Yea if they fight together... But pre wano Zoro is like he give a decent but loose eventually. High-extreme diff.

Pre-Wano Zoro = rooftop Wano Zoro.
He wins.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You shouldn't have any doubts in the first place after you saw what DR Zoro was capable of when he flexed on the rooftop...


Pre-Wano Zoro = rooftop Wano Zoro.
He wins.

It's just that Luffy and Zoro are usually relative or equal in most arcs, and the dynamic doesn't seem much different in Dressrosa
To me it's always been Luffy = (or >=) Zoro > (or >>) Sanji

 

[nik87]

It's just that Luffy and Zoro are usually relative or equal in most arcs, and the dynamic doesn't seem much different in Dressrosa
To me it's always been Luffy = (or >=) Zoro > (or >>) Sanji

We saw on the rooftop that they are far from relative...

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

We saw on the rooftop that they are far from relative...

Hence the "in most arcs"

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

"Oh no Luffy please help me I am fighting the top 1 of the arc!"

 

[SaitamaSanji]

Im just trying to understand why some Zoro fans think this way? I mean usually you never see this in other fandoms but here in this forum Ive seen such a take a few times.

Im thinking that maybe this is their first shounen experience and they dont know how things are.

Simply because zoro fans are a bunch of retards. just like zoro himself. Oda created zoro's character to attract bunch of brainless fools to one pool. So that makes it easy for others to recognize which fan is a retard and which one is not. Normally when it comes to any other story we dnt have any way to identify who are the retards among a certain fanbase. However in one piece its pretty simple. If you are a zoro fan then you are automatically a retard. Which is a unique and very clever technique Oda used so that other fans of one piece can have a healthy discussion while ignoring all the retards