Speculations How does Mihawk end up being Zoro’s final opponent
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@Paperchampion23 no you should definitely power scale them
Oda will… Oda will obviously maintain a consistent power scale when making such match ups
for example, Luffy must always be way stronger than Zoro… So Luffy’s opponents must also be WAY STRONGER than Zoro’s opponents
if Luffy is fighting shanks, Zoro cannot be fighting mihawk because Shanks is not WAY STRONGER than Mihawk, Shanks is WAY STRONGER than Beckman
hence why Luffy cannot fight shanks at the same time as Zoro fights mihawk… It would mess up the gap between Luffy and Zoro
Oda will… Oda will obviously maintain a consistent power scale when making such match ups
for example, Luffy must always be way stronger than Zoro… So Luffy’s opponents must also be WAY STRONGER than Zoro’s opponents
if Luffy is fighting shanks, Zoro cannot be fighting mihawk because Shanks is not WAY STRONGER than Mihawk, Shanks is WAY STRONGER than Beckman
hence why Luffy cannot fight shanks at the same time as Zoro fights mihawk… It would mess up the gap between Luffy and Zoro
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Only reason People ain't ready to accept Mihawk as Zoro final Opponent is because how strong he will be.
Zoro has atleast two Major battle aside from Mihawk from now which are :
- Shiryu of the rain
- EthanBaron V. NASUJURO
and Given Zoro current Power level , And power ups from above Battle's will throw Zoro to Yonkou+ Criteria.
Stronger than majority of the top tiers , And on Par with Luffy/BB league. People just don't want side character to hold this much power and relevance in the show because it hurts their agenda.
Other reason being , They want Mihawk to be taken down as soon as possible so that , That Bars Zoro Power level. And their agenda of Mihawk being weaker so that their fav can top him will shine the most.
But looking from Storyline Perspective. It makes zero sense for zoro to achieve his dream and still be on the crew.
Zoro has already said. Everyone in the crew is side by side Pursuing their own goals.
Achieving black blade at the end of the series is the most perfect thing that can happen and Zoro ain't Achieving that unless he beats Mihawk.
Zoro has atleast two Major battle aside from Mihawk from now which are :
- Shiryu of the rain
- EthanBaron V. NASUJURO
and Given Zoro current Power level , And power ups from above Battle's will throw Zoro to Yonkou+ Criteria.
Stronger than majority of the top tiers , And on Par with Luffy/BB league. People just don't want side character to hold this much power and relevance in the show because it hurts their agenda.
Other reason being , They want Mihawk to be taken down as soon as possible so that , That Bars Zoro Power level. And their agenda of Mihawk being weaker so that their fav can top him will shine the most.
But looking from Storyline Perspective. It makes zero sense for zoro to achieve his dream and still be on the crew.
Zoro has already said. Everyone in the crew is side by side Pursuing their own goals.
Achieving black blade at the end of the series is the most perfect thing that can happen and Zoro ain't Achieving that unless he beats Mihawk.
That doesn't really work with the narrative.
Zoro has to become WSS before Luffy becomes Pirate King based on Luffy's comment when they first met about how him not being WSS would make Luffy look bad once he's pirate king.
And the fact that Luffy will challenge marines/WG once he will become Pirate King by then they will have to be at their peak with their biggest titles and bounties
Luffy already by that time has to surpass Roger's bounty (5.5bil) and be 5.6bil and be introduced as Pirate King
Zoro has to surpass Mihawk's bounty (3.5bil) and be 3.6bil and be introduced as WSS
I have no idea what you imagine will happen.
You think Zoro vs Mihawk will be the last fight of the series and Zoro won't ever be introduced as WSS nor have bounty increase surpassing Mihawk?
Zoro has to become WSS before Luffy becomes Pirate King based on Luffy's comment when they first met about how him not being WSS would make Luffy look bad once he's pirate king.
And the fact that Luffy will challenge marines/WG once he will become Pirate King by then they will have to be at their peak with their biggest titles and bounties
Luffy already by that time has to surpass Roger's bounty (5.5bil) and be 5.6bil and be introduced as Pirate King
Zoro has to surpass Mihawk's bounty (3.5bil) and be 3.6bil and be introduced as WSS
I have no idea what you imagine will happen.
You think Zoro vs Mihawk will be the last fight of the series and Zoro won't ever be introduced as WSS nor have bounty increase surpassing Mihawk?
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Epilogue Fight usually tends to be the longest running Rivalry or most hyped battle.
We know luffy wanted to become pirate king but had or even now have no idea who the main antagonist will be.
And it's not necessarily have to be on larger scale than Main fight of final war.
Let me give you another perspective.
Team 7 + Obito vs Kaguya was the final dish. But Naruto vs Sasuke was narratively built up for so long that it worked as the Epilogue.
We know luffy wanted to become pirate king but had or even now have no idea who the main antagonist will be.
And it's not necessarily have to be on larger scale than Main fight of final war.
Let me give you another perspective.
Team 7 + Obito vs Kaguya was the final dish. But Naruto vs Sasuke was narratively built up for so long that it worked as the Epilogue.
Naruto vs sasuke at then end make sense because the series revolve a lot about their dynamic where as for one piece , the story elements make more sense. Naruto is equally character driven as it is plot/story driven. By your logic , shanks can also be said to be luffy's last fight but it won't be the case.
Naruto vs Sasuke wasn’t the epilogue. It was the end of the series because the story was about Naruto bringing sasuke back to the light. It was a fight between the protagonist and his rival a fitting final fight.
Zoro vs Mihawk isn’t the final fight cause Zoro ain’t the protagonist.
No it’s that Buggy gains power by gaining allies. Buggy will become King of the World by joining forces with imu.
Luffy vs Imu
Zoro vs Mihawk
Zoro vs Mihawk isn’t the final fight cause Zoro ain’t the protagonist.
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No it’s that Buggy gains power by gaining allies. Buggy will become King of the World by joining forces with imu.
Luffy vs Imu
Zoro vs Mihawk
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Naruto was literally the kid of prophecy, he had much more to do , just like Luffy who is Nika and wants freedom for himself and all the people. The legendary saviour and kid everyone be waiting for.
Neither was Sasuke.
Oda treats Zoro here and there everytime. It won't hurt if he gives Zoro vs Mihawk as epilogue. It doesn't have to be as grand as Final battle of MC. It has no buisness with it. It's more towards Zoro dreams.
Zoro vs Mihawk has been the longest rivalry and most hyped up battle since the beginning of the show just like Naruto vs Sasuke. Simply destined to happen. Luffy has no such build up compared to Zoro vs Mihawk which was built since chapter 49. Luffy has no such antagonist even introduced at this point.
Akainu debut was Chapter 397
Blackbeard Debut was chapter 223
Imu debut was chapter 906
Mihawk debut was chapter 49.
Neither was Sasuke.
Oda treats Zoro here and there everytime. It won't hurt if he gives Zoro vs Mihawk as epilogue. It doesn't have to be as grand as Final battle of MC. It has no buisness with it. It's more towards Zoro dreams.
Zoro vs Mihawk has been the longest rivalry and most hyped up battle since the beginning of the show just like Naruto vs Sasuke. Simply destined to happen. Luffy has no such build up compared to Zoro vs Mihawk which was built since chapter 49. Luffy has no such antagonist even introduced at this point.
Akainu debut was Chapter 397
Blackbeard Debut was chapter 223
Imu debut was chapter 906
Mihawk debut was chapter 49.
What I imagine is that Zoro is a character who is written to have narrative momentum and cohesion
Zoro’s character is complete when he achieves his dream. That’s all.
There is no plot point that will matter to Zoro as much as this.
there will be no emotional moment that matters to Zoro as much as this
there will be fight that matters to Zoro as much as this
So Zoro’s last fight will be this. It is narratively impossible for Oda to make a better fight for Zoro after this. Nothing about anything after this will matter to Zoro’s character
in your mind you probably think that’s fine. Zoro can basically be a complete character and just hang around to do fights that don’t matter after completing his dream, but I bet even as bad a writer as Oda is even he knows this is non-storytelling
Zoro’s character is complete when he achieves his dream. That’s all.
There is no plot point that will matter to Zoro as much as this.
there will be no emotional moment that matters to Zoro as much as this
there will be fight that matters to Zoro as much as this
So Zoro’s last fight will be this. It is narratively impossible for Oda to make a better fight for Zoro after this. Nothing about anything after this will matter to Zoro’s character
in your mind you probably think that’s fine. Zoro can basically be a complete character and just hang around to do fights that don’t matter after completing his dream, but I bet even as bad a writer as Oda is even he knows this is non-storytelling
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Character popularity polls would say otherwise to you. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean author and fandom doesn't.
He is relevent to story much more than you give him credits for.
I never said zoro is the protagnist and stop coming up with your assumptions.
You're yet to answer anything which surpasses zoro vs mihawk battle hype on the one piece series.
He is relevent to story much more than you give him credits for.
I never said zoro is the protagnist and stop coming up with your assumptions.
You're yet to answer anything which surpasses zoro vs mihawk battle hype on the one piece series.
Dude Zoros literally my 3rd favorite but you can’t act like his story is super pivotal to the plot when it wasn’t even pivotal to Wano. Hell Luffy got called the new Ryuma.
Zoro vs Mihawk literally doesn’t have the same hype as Luffy vs BB or Imu because BB and Imu have been bigger deals in the story even if Mihawk was introduced first he’s the least impactful
Zoro vs Mihawk literally doesn’t have the same hype as Luffy vs BB or Imu because BB and Imu have been bigger deals in the story even if Mihawk was introduced first he’s the least impactful
But being his most important fight, with the most emotion for Zoro =/= being final fight.
but that's exactly what he's been doing whole series. He's been fighting random bozos just because Luffy picked the fights. None of those guys had cared about WSS title.
You think Oda won't have Strawhats jerk off Luffy's secret final dream and make Zoro fight enemies after Mihawk to make Luffy's dream come true?
Also, you think Zoro won't ever fight as WSS or be introduced as WSS? He won't get a new bounty as WSS surpassing Mihawk's and new epithet?
This is like thinking Pirate King Luffy won't ever fight after becoming Pirate King and won't get updated bounty as Pirate King and surpassing Roger's bounty.
but that's exactly what he's been doing whole series. He's been fighting random bozos just because Luffy picked the fights. None of those guys had cared about WSS title.
You think Oda won't have Strawhats jerk off Luffy's secret final dream and make Zoro fight enemies after Mihawk to make Luffy's dream come true?
Also, you think Zoro won't ever fight as WSS or be introduced as WSS? He won't get a new bounty as WSS surpassing Mihawk's and new epithet?
This is like thinking Pirate King Luffy won't ever fight after becoming Pirate King and won't get updated bounty as Pirate King and surpassing Roger's bounty.