Speculations How does Mihawk end up being Zoro’s final opponent

[a_fan]

Voted he doesn’t because it’s very unusual to see a mentor fighting a student and Mihawk doesn’t strike me as a villain who will kill Zoro considering how he was portrayed with Luffy/Zoro/Perona. His backstory is likely going to be sad and traumatic that’s involving Imu and the Gorosei so there’s that.

I believe a temporary alliance between Straw Hats and Cross Guild will happen in Marijoa raid arc and that’s when we see Zoro and Mihawk team up against Nusjuro and unamed God Knights.

 

[nik87]

It takes a special sort of dedication to seriously write this after nika and joyboy plot lines were introduced

This is a story about Luffy after all, not about failed promises of Joyboy.
Luffy will take care of that before and then go hunt the treasure that the show is named after.

So you failed to read the post you quoted originally I see. No where did I say this lol, i said they will just exist in the same arc.

I also say its a pipe dream to expect Davy Back Fight to even be remotely relevant the rest of this series. Buggy also isnt cunning, he's an idiot who's been extremely lucky. Thats the joke

Mihawk himself calls him trash lol

All 4 pirate empires will exist in the same arc so even like that Mihawk will not have anything to do with Shanks.
All connection those two have lies in the past, the only common thing they share is being the goals of Zoro and Luffy.
One is an individual strength dream while the other is a dream about group effort.

Davy Back Fight wasn't introduced in the show for Foxy's sake, it is obviously preparation for someone else to use it again and we are in the end game where only top organizations are left and you can be my guest when it comes to guessing who will challenge SHs to DBF.

Just like the plot line of feeding Devil Fruits wasn't introduced for the sake of Spandam and Mr4's weapon but to be a build-up for Shiryu all this time, Davy Back Fight vs Foxy has also been a build all this time for DBF with Cross Guild.

Idk how you can consider Buggy a joke when you are fully aware how extremely lucky he is which is the biggest advantage the MC himself has, being lucky too. There is nothing in Mihawk's power that he can do about Buggy's luck. He too will have to admit that Buggy's luck is off the charts and put in the work to achieve what Buggy wants. Underestimating Buggy is really not wise. Proceed to do so at your own risk.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Luffy will take care of that before and then go hunt the treasure that the show is named after.

Hahahahahahahahah, of course, the chosen one plotline and entire world waiting for him is just a side hustle

 

[nik87]

Hahahahahahahahah, of course, the chosen one plotline and entire world waiting for him is just a side hustle

It is a big milestone for sure but the MC hasn't been telling us for 1110 chapters how he will kick Imu's ass but how he will find a treasure.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

It is a big milestone for sure but the MC hasn't been telling us for 1110 chapters how he will kick Imu's ass but how he will find a treasure.

Naruto didn't talk about ending asura and indra plot line, gintoki didn't talk about being a war hero with PTSD, ichigo didn't talk about quincy king throughout the show... you get the idea.

One piece is a secundary thing, ever since wano the main goal is for nika to bring the dawn of the sun and defeat the WG.

Mihawk and Zoro's best bet for plot relevance is being relatives or clones of important people

 

[Paperchampion23]

This is a story about Luffy after all, not about failed promises of Joyboy.
Luffy will take care of that before and then go hunt the treasure that the show is named after.


All 4 pirate empires will exist in the same arc so even like that Mihawk will not have anything to do with Shanks.
All connection those two have lies in the past, the only common thing they share is being the goals of Zoro and Luffy.
One is an individual strength dream while the other is a dream about group effort.

Davy Back Fight wasn't introduced in the show for Foxy's sake, it is obviously preparation for someone else to use it again and we are in the end game where only top organizations are left and you can be my guest when it comes to guessing who will challenge SHs to DBF.

Just like the plot line of feeding Devil Fruits wasn't introduced for the sake of Spandam and Mr4's weapon but to be a build-up for Shiryu all this time, Davy Back Fight vs Foxy has also been a build all this time for DBF with Cross Guild.

Idk how you can consider Buggy a joke when you are fully aware how extremely lucky he is which is the biggest advantage the MC himself has, being lucky too. There is nothing in Mihawk's power that he can do about Buggy's luck. He too will have to admit that Buggy's luck is off the charts and put in the work to achieve what Buggy wants. Underestimating Buggy is really not wise. Proceed to do so at your own risk.

So if all 4 Yonko will exist in the same arc so you think Blackbeard (and Shanks AND Mihawk) will all be involved in some cheery Daavy Back Fight event lol? There was no plot related set up from LRLL that implies a Daavy Back Fight would ever be utilized again in the story. Im really not sure why people believe this idea

It is a big milestone for sure but the MC hasn't been telling us for 1110 chapters how he will kick Imu's ass but how he will find a treasure.

Luffy isnt a clairvoyant lmao

 

[nik87]

Naruto didn't talk about ending asura and indra plot line

Naruto talked about becoming Hokage and the show ended with him becoming Hokage.
Same for Luffy and One Piece ending with the treasure found, as Oda said it would end.

defeat the WG.

This has never been Luffy's goal. It was his father's goal.
He will just stumble into it as a side plotline along the way towards the treasure.

Mihawk and Zoro's best bet for plot relevance is being relatives or clones of important people

The plot relevance of Mihawk and Zoro is to show what top1 and top2 of the universe can do - the ultimate fight of the show.

All 4 Yonko will exist in the same arc so you think Blackbeard (and Shanks AND Mihawk) will all be involved in some cheery Daavy Back Fight event lol. There was no plot related set up from LRLL that implies a Daavy Back Fight would ever be utilized again in the story. Im really not sure why people believe this idea

I didn't say all will be involved in DBF. Nothing about DBF is cheery when it comes to Zoro vs Mihawk.
The silly part is left for Luffy vs Buggy.

The DBF itself is a plotline that is coming all the way since LRLI just like feeding Zoans to weapons is a plot line coming all the way since Alabasta. Or you could pretend that DBF and feeding DFs to weapons sole purpose are Foxy, Mr4 and Spandam.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Naruto talked about becoming Hokage and the show ended with him becoming Hokage.
Same for Luffy and One Piece ending with the treasure found, as Oda said it would end.


This has never been Luffy's goal. It was his father's goal.
He will just stumble into it as a side plotline along the way towards the treasure.


The plot relevance of Mihawk and Zoro is to show what top1 and top2 of the universe can do - the ultimate fight of the show.


I didn't say all will be involved in DBF. Nothing about DBF is cheery when it comes to Zoro vs Mihawk.
The silly part is left for Luffy vs Buggy.

The DBF itself is a plotline that is coming all the way since LRLI just like feeding Zoans to weapons is a plot line coming all the way since Alabasta. Or you could pretend that DBF and feeding DFs to weapons sole purpose are Foxy, Mr4 and Spandam.

Yes, "Feeding Zoans to Weapons" isnt a plotline either. Its a very basic thing that gets infrequently used in the story, mainly Funkfreed as an example.

You assuming these things need to lead to other things is a you problem, nothing here is forshadowing. The Davvy Back Fight never was implied to be used further in the story at all lol.

Vegapunk didnt even explain the concept of adding Zoans to objects lmao, so wheres the payoff bro?

 

[nik87]

Yes, "Feeding Zoans to Weapons" isnt a plotline either. Its a very basic thing that gets infrequently used in the story, mainly Funkfreed as an example.

You assuming these things need to lead to other things is a you problem, nothing here is forshadowing. The Davvy Back Fight never was implied to be used further in the story at all lol.

Vegapunk didnt even explain the concept of adding Zoans to objects lmao, so wheres the payoff bro?

There are two reasons for me to come back to this post when my FS ends up right on both accounts.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

The plot relevance of Mihawk and Zoro is to show what top1 and top2 of the universe can do - the ultimate fight of the show.

Its time that you stop coping, nika and blackbeard are top 1 and 2 all time by the time EoS come

 

[nik87]

Its time that you stop coping, nika and blackbeard are top 1 and 2 all time by the time EoS come

Not even close and you will soon agree with me.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Nobody wants to believe me but I always say Mihawk is the odd man out unless you associate him with another group (and no, CG does not count, its two other former villains and one of them is a joke).

Akainu has Fujitora
Blackbeard has Shiryu
Imu has Nasujuro


That really only truly leaves Shanks at this rate, because unlike the other 3 above, Beckman is not a swordsman, nor implied to use a sword whatsoever like King or any other "nontraditional" swordsman. And no, its not implying Mihawk is a RHP or ally, but may be involved in whatever arc setting Shanks is involved in to justify both together for Luffy and Zoro.

Mihawk's only real character relationship is with Shanks, but people feign the thought behind this because of powerscaling, so it gets dropped hard anytime it is discussed. The other problem is Blackbeard (and Mihawk) fans hope and pray Shanks loses to Blackbeard so it ups the relevancy of characters they like.

So nobody likes when I say this

So Zoro defeats someone stronger than Luffy in that arc. I like it 👌

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What does being strongest swordsman of all time has to do with Roger?

Yeah, Nesujuro will be Mihawk's hypetool ...the same Mihawk who can't even make Vista his hypetool

Wow you saying it might come true simce your prediction records is like 1 for 1000

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Yes, "Feeding Zoans to Weapons" isnt a plotline either. Its a very basic thing that gets infrequently used in the story, mainly Funkfreed as an example.

You assuming these things need to lead to other things is a you problem, nothing here is forshadowing. The Davvy Back Fight never was implied to be used further in the story at all lol.

Vegapunk didnt even explain the concept of adding Zoans to objects lmao, so wheres the payoff bro?

They are like 4 more vegapunks my guy

 

[gz89]

All this copium going on for years non stop.

Mihawk wont fall to Janitor, Nasajuro, Gariling, Serahawk or whoever.

He is there since day one to fight Zoro at the eos, just fucking accept it.

Now if Oda delivers with the fight and how it will happen its another thing.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Strawhat pirates vs Cross Guild in Laugh Tale ultimate Davy Back Fight.

Zoro fights Mihawk

Buggy will kill Luffy

 

[Nadel]

Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world, and will be Zoro's last rival.

 

[bluefire12]

Many people believe Mihawk will be Zoro’s final fight. This could make sense from a powerscaling perspective, but how does this make any sense from a narrative perspective (and obviously narrative trumps powerscaling)? In order for this to happen, one of these nonsensical scenarios would have to play out

1. Mihawk randomly allies with the Celestial Dragons to help them cleanse the world. This obviously makes 0 sense since why would Mihawk randomly decide to help the WG commit mass genocide? And why would Oda have Mihawk get betrayed by the WG, then help form Cross Guild, only for the WG and Mihawk to randomly form an alliance again?

2. Zoro randomly decides to leave the crew behind while they’re fighting against the entire WG so that he can fight Mihawk at that moment. This is pure nonsense since Zoro already showed in TB that he puts protecting Luffy and the rest of the crew above achieving his own dream, so obviously he wouldn’t ditch them in their most dire moment to go pick a fight with Mihawk. And why wouldn’t Zoro just wait until after the WG is defeated to challenge Mihawk in that case? There’s no reason why he would have to fight Mihawk at that exact moment unless Mihawk allies with the WG for no reason.

3. Zoro vs Mihawk is the final fight of the series. This one is at least slightly less ridiculous than the previous two options, but it still makes barely any sense. The story is about Luffy, not Zoro. Why would Oda cap off the series with Zoro’s greatest triumph instead of Luffy’s greatest triumph? Not to mention that Luffy freeing the world from Imu/BB makes much more sense as an end to the story than Zoro finally claiming the WSS, which would have no effect on anyone but Zoro.

Through gangs, drugs, thug life

 

[zenox]

There is a huge possibility that cross guild is the final villain due to buggy

 

[Shiroyru]

There is a huge possibility that cross guild is the final villain due to buggy

Lol no

 

[MihawkCFC]

God i hope so.Fuck Imu and Fatbeard.

 

[nik87]

Lol no

Are you really 100% sure that the first villain the 3 triggers of the story met ain't also the last villain?