Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Lol

Something funny ?

You surely are one. You don't have the least clue of what is an evidence of violence (rape is this case) and how one can easily self hurt to make naive like you to belive in them.

Wow

Again more articles and words in a paper. At least one study there. So there is false accusation huh? Is the minority of the accusations but still pretty high to me and enough to not blindly believe in anyone who claims to be a victim unless you wanna sacrifice some few innocent people in order to have 100% certain all criminals that were accused will punished (which would cause to more false accusations to happen but you give 0 fucks about that until it happens to you).

Saying that you don't understand how to fight an oppression without saying it.

Once again you showed an article, even if at UN page still just an article and nothing related to a law or anything declaring what is a open air prisoner. It was a term invented by that reporter. You really should study the basics of law and justice.

An open ai prison is an open air prison. If you don't understand the concept, go take a trip there.
No nevermind.. Israel destroyed everything !

Coming from you it is actually a compliment. You have the most irrelevant comments here. Looks like a crying baby seeking for attention and not being delivered.

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Not sure if I'm listening right (my english listening is not the best) but I guess he says he made a MAXIMUM of 15 dollars a day in Gaza while in Israel he could make a MINIMUM of 150 dollars. Is that right?

"Israel often suspend or reject the permit". That simple sentence should make you understand that there is a problem and that this man's permit could be taken away at ANYTIME.

a guy accusing me of ableism and transphobia.

I'm not accusing you of transphobia dude. I've made a sentence where I talked about all the behavior I witnessed here. Don't take it personnally

 

[Z-Saber]

It doesn't. I barely know your stance on things

Well I don’t speak on the conflict between Israel and Palestine because it’s not something I have deep knowledge on. As for other issues, it depends on the topic. I’m not particularly right or left wing but that doesn’t mean I’m a centrist because I have clear and defined stances on every topic and I’m always open to new perspectives.

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Something funny ?

I’m just amused at catching a stray. I wouldn’t mind conversing with you more but brother you make a mountain out of an anthill.

 

[AL sama]

@Logiko I m sorry for past few years but now some of the things you say or do makes a lot more sense

@Uncle Van @Z-Saber @Zenos7 you should check this out

Non-hallucinatory psychosis refers to a state where an individual experiences symptoms of psychosis without the presence of hallucinations. Psychosis typically involves a disconnection from reality, but this can manifest in various ways. In non-hallucinatory psychosis, the primary symptoms might include:

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person.
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present.

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point.
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions.
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation.

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions.
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure.
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks.

Non-hallucinatory psychosis can be seen in various mental health conditions, including:
- **Schizophrenia**: Where negative symptoms and disorganized thinking can predominate.
- **Delusional Disorder**: Where the primary symptom is the presence of one or more delusions.
- **Bipolar Disorder**: During manic or depressive episodes without hallucinations.
- **Schizoaffective Disorder**: Where mood disorder symptoms coexist with symptoms of psychosis.

The treatment for non-hallucinatory psychosis often involves antipsychotic medications, psychotherapy, and support for daily functioning. It's crucial for a mental health professional to conduct a thorough assessment to diagnose and develop an appropriate treatment plan for individuals experiencing these symptoms.

 

[Z-Saber]

@Logiko I m sorry for past few years but now some of the things you say or do makes a lot more sense

@Uncle Van @Z-Saber @Zenos7 you should check this out

Non-hallucinatory psychosis refers to a state where an individual experiences symptoms of psychosis without the presence of hallucinations. Psychosis typically involves a disconnection from reality, but this can manifest in various ways. In non-hallucinatory psychosis, the primary symptoms might include:

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person.
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present.

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point.
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions.
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation.

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions.
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure.
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks.

Non-hallucinatory psychosis can be seen in various mental health conditions, including:
- **Schizophrenia**: Where negative symptoms and disorganized thinking can predominate.
- **Delusional Disorder**: Where the primary symptom is the presence of one or more delusions.
- **Bipolar Disorder**: During manic or depressive episodes without hallucinations.
- **Schizoaffective Disorder**: Where mood disorder symptoms coexist with symptoms of psychosis.

The treatment for non-hallucinatory psychosis often involves antipsychotic medications, psychotherapy, and support for daily functioning. It's crucial for a mental health professional to conduct a thorough assessment to diagnose and develop an appropriate treatment plan for individuals experiencing these symptoms.

That checks out now that we know the full extent of it. I still understand your initial stance on the subject but I wasn’t fully aware of the symptoms of this condition. Thank you for sharing.

 

[Herrera95]

Saying that you don't understand how to fight an oppression without saying it.

You fight oppresion by exposing it and giving the oppressor the ways of defending themselves aka weapons which are ways to equalize the power of a woman and a man (still not equal but way more equal than bare hands). And exposing them is going to justice and giving all the details and evidences that said oppresion happened. You're way of fight oppresion by simple believing in what the said victim tells you is just insane and just shows how unprofessional you would be working in professions like that.

An open ai prison is an open air prison. If you don't understand the concept, go take a trip there.
No nevermind.. Israel destroyed everything !

It's a made up concept. Not a scientific term or anything you can found on laws like you claimed.

"Israel often suspend or reject the permit". That simple sentence should make you understand that there is a problem and that this man's permit could be taken away at ANYTIME.

The fact that he wants the permit already shows how much better Israel is from Gaza and of course Israel has to take those security measures because people in Gaza wants to genocide Israel.

In fact Israelis have tried to help Gaza in the past when Israel took out the jews from there but people don't want Gaza to grow...

Looters steal Gaza greenhouses | News | Al Jazeera

 

[AL sama]

That checks out now that we know the full extent of it. I still understand your initial stance on the subject but I wasn’t fully aware of the symptoms of this condition. Thank you for sharing.

well yeah when logiko was explaining it, the impression I was getting was pretty bad to say the least

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

well yeah when logiko was explaining it, the impression I was getting was pretty bad to say the least

We'd all do better not judging people on the internet and not demanding their full medical background to show them basic respect

 

[Logiko]

I’m just amused at catching a stray. I wouldn’t mind conversing with you more but brother you make a mountain out of an anthill.

I admit that I tend to be very dramatic. This is kinda of a flaw but this is also what allows me to stay strong and keep my focus on problems.

I didn't specifically mentionned you here. In fact I was aiming at the moderation that is enabling and refusing to moderate very harmfull posts.

some of the things you say or do makes a lot more sense

To make people understand better, I will highlight the symptoms I do have and MIGHT have :

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person. (I do no believe people are specifically here to harm me, people here are just either a bit ignorant or doing their jobs)
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame. (My confidence in my narrative skills is very/hardcore high despite having very little MATERIAL evidences supporting this idea, which could indicate an illusion of grandor on this subject that I won't deny). I do also think that I have a savior complex (I tend to love dealing with situation where I have a moral high ground) so once again, I won't deny it.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present. (I do not have any physical illness - at least right now O_O)

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point. (One of my strenght here is to specifically come back constantly on important subjects)
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection. (technically its always logical to me, but its almost never the case for other people). Here, you might see it when you talk a specific subject but I jump to another. For me (and for the leftist cause) those subject are deeply linked, and those links are logical, so I make jump between them without care, but I fail sometimes to understand that people are not in my brain and therefore can't understand the logic. On the flip side of the coin, this is also what allows me to have a very creative brain (when I can actually work). But I consider this "symptom" more of a part of my personnality rather than a mental disorder.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions. (nop)
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation. (well, aside from being a bit overdramatic on the internet, I'm in the norm here)

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions. (nop)
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech. (you only see me write, but in reality, even if I can speak IRL "normally", my speech pattern is very simple, always disorganized and I'm constantly failing to express my emotions or thoughts with words) - When I write, I'm constantly helped by dictionnaries and lexical tools.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure. (Oh boi, not at all)
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks. (My main problem)

As you can see here. I do not possess every symptoms. In fact, in some case, I'm in the norm. That's why I said that my psychiatrist was not 100% sure of the diagnosis. What I'm telling you is what I know from the professionnal. THe only thing I know for sure is how the thing I have affect me in my daily life.

The treatment for non-hallucinatory psychosis often involves antipsychotic medications

That's what I have, its an anti psychotic (that actually makes me shake) and it does work... but to a certain degree.

You fight oppresion by exposing it and giving the oppressor the ways of defending themselves aka weapons which are ways to equalize the power of a woman and a man

When there is a inequivalence of power and a system of domination, the way to fight the oppression is not to treat the same way the two parties, the way to fight it is to treat the oppressed partie with more empathy and care than the other.

That's a BASIC principle in fighting oppressions.

It's a made up concept. Not a scientific term or anything you can found on laws like you claimed.

No. Its just something real.

Watch this video: https://x.com/i/web/status/1732056400673575399

how much better Israel is from Gaza

Of course its better dude.. Gaza is literally hell on earth because of Israel.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I admit that I tend to be very dramatic. This is kinda of a flaw but this is also what allows me to stay strong and keep my focus on problems.

I didn't specifically mentionned you here. In fact I was aiming at the moderation that is enabling and refusing to moderate very harmfull posts.




To make people understand better, I will highlight the symptoms I do have and MIGHT have :

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person. (I do no believe people are specifically here to harm me, people here are just either a bit ignorant or doing their jobs)
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame. (My confidence in my narrative skills is very/hardcore high despite having very little MATERIAL evidences supporting this idea, which could indicate an illusion of grandor on this subject that I won't deny). I do also think that I have a savior complex (I tend to love dealing with situation where I have a moral high ground) so once again, I won't deny it.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present. (I do not have any physical illness - at least right now O_O)

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point. (One of my strenght here is to specifically come back constantly on important subjects)
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection. (technically its always logical to me, but its almost never the case for other people). Here, you might see it when you talk a specific subject but I jump to another. For me (and for the leftist cause) those subject are deeply linked, and those links are logical, so I make jump between them without care, but I fail sometimes to understand that people are not in my brain and therefore can't understand the logic. On the flip side of the coin, this is also what allows me to have a very creative brain (when I can actually work). But I consider this "symptom" more of a part of my personnality rather than a mental disorder.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions. (nop)
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation. (well, aside from being a bit overdramatic on the internet, I'm in the norm here)

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions. (nop)
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech. (you only see me write, but in reality, even if I can speak IRL "normally", my speech pattern is very simple, always disorganized and I'm constantly failing to express my emotions or thoughts with words) - When I write, I'm constantly helped by dictionnaries and lexical tools.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure. (Oh boi, not at all)
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks. (My main problem)

As you can see here. I do not possess every symptoms. In fact, in some case, I'm in the norm. That's why I said that my psychiatrist was not 100% sure of the diagnosis. What I'm telling you is what I know from the professionnal. THe only thing I know for sure is how the thing I have affect me in my daily life.


That's what I have, its an anti psychotic (that actually makes me shake) and it does work... but to a certain degree.


When there is a inequivalence of power and a system of domination, the way to fight the oppression is not to treat the same way the two parties, the way to fight it is to treat the oppressed partie with more empathy and care than the other.

That's a BASIC principle in fighting oppressions.



No. Its just something real.

Watch this video: https://x.com/i/web/status/1732056400673575399



Of course its better dude.. Gaza is literally hell on earth because of Israel.

Idk if I'm sounding intrusive but I wish you a speedy recovery. You don't sound like a bad person at all.

 

[Herrera95]

To make people understand better, I will highlight the symptoms I do have and MIGHT have :

Now I'm confused. I don't know if you are just a leftist or if the majority of them have the same issue (the ones being misleading like you)

When there is a inequivalence of power and a system of domination, the way to fight the oppression is not to treat the same way the two parties, the way to fight it is to treat the oppressed partie with more empathy and care than the other.

That's a BASIC principle in fighting oppressions.

No. That way you just make the oppressed be the oppressor. There is a reason why justice is blind and have to be fair with everyone without taking parties. Really dude study about justice. You need that for yesterday (Brazilian expression).

No. Its just something real.

Watch this video: https://x.com/i/web/status/1732056400673575399

Literally can't.

Of course its better dude.. Gaza is literally hell on earth because of Israel.

Nope. Because of terrorists groups.

 

[Logiko]

Idk if I'm sounding intrusive but I wish you a speedy recovery. You don't sound like a bad person at all.

I'm really not perfect and I made so many bad choices in my life, I've been racist, I've been sexist and hardcore toxic, I've been ableist and ultra liberal and hardcore meritocrate, I've even been somewhat transphobe and homophobe at time without realizing it, but I'm disgusted with what I was and now I'm trying my best to do better. If I overshare sometimes its because I think this experience can help others too.

You are not intrusive at all, I keep all the good words in my hearth. Thanks :)

Now I'm confused. I don't know if you are just a leftist or if the majority of them have the same issue (the ones being misleading like you)

Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint please.

Literally can't.

Instagram ?

https://www.instagram.com/hadeelshihadeh/reel/C0lVCU0ouQy/

Nope. Because of terrorists groups

sigh

 

[Uncle Van]

@Logiko I m sorry for past few years but now some of the things you say or do makes a lot more sense

@Uncle Van @Z-Saber @Zenos7 you should check this out

Non-hallucinatory psychosis refers to a state where an individual experiences symptoms of psychosis without the presence of hallucinations. Psychosis typically involves a disconnection from reality, but this can manifest in various ways. In non-hallucinatory psychosis, the primary symptoms might include:

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person.
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present.

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point.
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions.
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation.

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions.
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure.
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks.

Non-hallucinatory psychosis can be seen in various mental health conditions, including:
- **Schizophrenia**: Where negative symptoms and disorganized thinking can predominate.
- **Delusional Disorder**: Where the primary symptom is the presence of one or more delusions.
- **Bipolar Disorder**: During manic or depressive episodes without hallucinations.
- **Schizoaffective Disorder**: Where mood disorder symptoms coexist with symptoms of psychosis.

The treatment for non-hallucinatory psychosis often involves antipsychotic medications, psychotherapy, and support for daily functioning. It's crucial for a mental health professional to conduct a thorough assessment to diagnose and develop an appropriate treatment plan for individuals experiencing these symptoms.

This does change a lot if it's actually true. Though if true, it truly means there's not much reason to reply to him since he's apparently, mentally unable to be consistent.

 

[AL sama]

This does change a lot if it's actually true. Though if true, it truly means there's not much reason to reply to him since he's apparently, mentally unable to be consistent.

yeah its kinda crazy how many things make sense now

 

[Herrera95]

Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint please.

So you are just a leftist dude. Stop being one and you will be fine.

Instagram ?

Is the same you showed previously from X (previously than the one I couldn't see)

 

[AL sama]

I admit that I tend to be very dramatic. This is kinda of a flaw but this is also what allows me to stay strong and keep my focus on problems.

I didn't specifically mentionned you here. In fact I was aiming at the moderation that is enabling and refusing to moderate very harmfull posts.




To make people understand better, I will highlight the symptoms I do have and MIGHT have :

1. **Delusions**: Strongly held false beliefs that are resistant to reasoning or contrary evidence. Common types include:
- **Paranoid Delusions**: Beliefs that others are out to harm or deceive the person. (I do no believe people are specifically here to harm me, people here are just either a bit ignorant or doing their jobs)
- **Grandiose Delusions**: Beliefs in one’s exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame. (My confidence in my narrative skills is very/hardcore high despite having very little MATERIAL evidences supporting this idea, which could indicate an illusion of grandor on this subject that I won't deny). I do also think that I have a savior complex (I tend to love dealing with situation where I have a moral high ground) so once again, I won't deny it.
- **Somatic Delusions**: Beliefs about having a physical illness or defect that isn't present. (I do not have any physical illness - at least right now O_O)

2. **Disorganized Thinking**: Difficulty organizing thoughts, resulting in incoherent speech or thought patterns. This can manifest as:
- **Tangentiality**: Going off on tangents without returning to the main point. (One of my strenght here is to specifically come back constantly on important subjects)
- **Loose Associations**: Jumping from one topic to another with little logical connection. (technically its always logical to me, but its almost never the case for other people). Here, you might see it when you talk a specific subject but I jump to another. For me (and for the leftist cause) those subject are deeply linked, and those links are logical, so I make jump between them without care, but I fail sometimes to understand that people are not in my brain and therefore can't understand the logic. On the flip side of the coin, this is also what allows me to have a very creative brain (when I can actually work). But I consider this "symptom" more of a part of my personnality rather than a mental disorder.

3. **Disorganized or Abnormal Motor Behavior**: This can range from agitation to catatonia. Examples include:
- **Bizarre Postures**: Holding unusual positions. (nop)
- **Inappropriate Affect**: Displaying emotions that are not appropriate for the situation. (well, aside from being a bit overdramatic on the internet, I'm in the norm here)

4. **Negative Symptoms**: These are deficits in normal emotional and behavioral functioning, such as:
- **Blunted Affect**: Reduced expression of emotions. (nop)
- **Alogia**: Poverty of speech. (you only see me write, but in reality, even if I can speak IRL "normally", my speech pattern is very simple, always disorganized and I'm constantly failing to express my emotions or thoughts with words) - When I write, I'm constantly helped by dictionnaries and lexical tools.
- **Anhedonia**: Inability to experience pleasure. (Oh boi, not at all)
- **Avolition**: Lack of motivation to initiate or complete tasks. (My main problem)

As you can see here. I do not possess every symptoms. In fact, in some case, I'm in the norm. That's why I said that my psychiatrist was not 100% sure of the diagnosis. What I'm telling you is what I know from the professionnal. THe only thing I know for sure is how the thing I have affect me in my daily life.


That's what I have, its an anti psychotic (that actually makes me shake) and it does work... but to a certain degree.


When there is a inequivalence of power and a system of domination, the way to fight the oppression is not to treat the same way the two parties, the way to fight it is to treat the oppressed partie with more empathy and care than the other.

That's a BASIC principle in fighting oppressions.



No. Its just something real.

Watch this video: https://x.com/i/web/status/1732056400673575399



Of course its better dude.. Gaza is literally hell on earth because of Israel.

I hope you get better soon

 

[Logiko]

mentally unable to be consistent.

And here is another side of ableism. On top of the invisibilization of the illness, there is sometimes the case where said illness is validated but as a result, the words or legitimacy of the person questionned.

Any objective observer could see that - while I'm being sometimes over dramatic and over present here - I'm one of the most consistant, reality based, strong and logical person on theses political and narrative threads.

But now that I've shared my vulnerability, my legitimicy and my words are suddenly put into question by the person in position of power that has been lying consistantly and repeatitively about me from day one and who is failing to see that my illness has nothing to do with actual consistancy.

Am I surprised by this ? No. I expected this ableist behavior. That's why I need to step up my game. You guys might see a little bit more links toward political and scientific papers in the future.

So you are just a leftist dude. Stop being one and you will be fine.

Again:

Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint.

Is the same you showed previously from X (previously than the one I couldn't see)

Yes. its the same video.

I hope you get better soon

Thanks, I hope so too

 

[Herrera95]

Again:

Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint.

Your political point of view is being mental disorder. Can't help with that.

 

[Logiko]

Your political point of view is being mental disorder. Can't help with that.

I sometimes wonder if you are a troll

 

[Herrera95]

I sometimes wonder if you are a troll

Don't worry I'm not taking your job

 

[Logiko]

Don't worry I'm not taking your job

Indeed. You would quit in less than 24 hours.