Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

Will Yamato Chan join the Straw Hats


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People are crying about Orochi dying saying what a waste of time giving him a backstory while im here thinking.

Holy Shit !!! Kaido just pulled off the biggest betrayal of the entire arc potentially the entire story.

- The kurozumi clan deceived Oden's father then Killed him, Took his place as Shogun by deceiving the daimyo’s, they also planted a double agent in Oden’s crew and had that double agent feeding them all the info they needed in order to keep watch on Oden So that they could kill him later.

- While all this was happening we thought Kaido was protecting Orochi so that no one could harm him and take over Wano, when in reality Kaido was just using Orochi in order to take Wano for himself and he was just biding his time until the moment was right so that he could start the biggest war in history.

Kaido basically made Orochi do all the dirty work then killed him and reaped all the rewards. Crazy !!!
Exactly,Waido has risen in my esteem :cheers:
 


If the raid fail in Onigashima(probably the island sunk after the first war) I can see we see many front battles in Wano overall, the country give a perfect all out battle though the whole country.
Flower Capital: Kaido
Kibi: King
Udon: Queen
Kuri: Jack
Ringo: Who´s Who
Hakumai: Sasaki

Probably these are the main player for the whole war, while the Big mom pirates fighting off the troup of the Navy(probably at least two admirals?).
 
I mean it's not like you're not strong if you don't have a certain type of Haki most don't have FS so we shouldn't knock the guys who are strong but don't have it, it's the same thing with Yamato.
bruh did u forgot i am Team Yamato:josad:.
i was just looking for what abilities our Bae has. the sooner i know the easier i feel. I am all for Yamato>All Commander(except Marco. sorry i love my boi marco)
btw did my post seem like i was downplaying her for lack of penetration haki? i am sorry if that was the case. i wasnt trying to shade on her.
1 or more types of ability was never the determinator for who is stronger than who.
Kata and Doffy both are Awakened. Luffy is still not. Yet He> Both
Kata is Advance CoO user. Yet he failed to keep Luffy down. Luffy won when he just tapped into FS.
imo Current Luffy(AdCoA+AdCoO+G4) is still weaker than Kaido(No advance haki+Awakening). heck i wont be surprised if this Luffy is weaker than Base Kaido still maybe somewhat comparable? i dunno.

i think u get the gist of it:pepemwai::pepemwai:
 
Orochi made what wano country is today, he played a big part on It, that alone make his actions worthed of his character. He dont need to prove nothing else, he did a LOT. Even now he was resposible for yasuie Death and momo being a hostage right now.

You talking like he did NOTHING to oda Focus on him.

And the most important, he proprabably isnt dead Yet.

What kind of arguments you using? You walking to much with that POS drizzt? Hahaha
Seems like I triggered the typical fodder new member OPfan:suresure: That fodder is always quoting me (cuz I critizise lol) like an insecure kid (so badass to put the badass OP character Akainu in your user name right ? It give you testoterone ?). Everyone should come and look, he is so so typical.

OT: Oda didn't show how Orochi was useful to Kaido beyond allowing him to come to Wano, beast pirates are the one who enforced the law in Wano, Kaido could have killed Orochi right after Oden it wouldnt have made any difference, he was the one in position of power. What purpose did Orochi had for Kaido? He didn't need Orochi to produce SMILE and others weapons ect...

So Oda failed to establish that.

Kaido had all those time to kill orochi but didn’t but now that the alliance is right on his ass, he decided to kill orochi which will just make orochi’s force team up with the alliance making them stronger. Seem like oda really want to end this in 5 years so he is forcing the plot to move in a unnatural direction so kaido can be defeated. At this point I wouldn’t be surprise if big mom will betray him next and we learn that she plan to betray him from the beginning because she has her own plan or something like that and that is how kaido loses in this arc, a ton of weird plot direction make him loses.

Yasu death ?:gokulaugh:

Momo ?:suresure:
 
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