What Marines know about the Ancient Weapons?


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They would still have lost.
Roger already suffered way too much because of his terminal illness and aside of the WBP, who would really help them destroying the WG? Kaido and Big Mom forces were defeated by an alliance of supernovas who barely went toe to toe with top tiers.

Joyboy was stronger than Roger and yet he lost as well.
I think Roger just knew he and his crew, including the alliance, would be washed by the combined forces of the WG + navy and the ancient weapon.
That's such a bad excuse.


"oh lets all wait for the pirate jesus to come and save everyone"

Is what it boils down to in the end.


WG didn't have Motherflame yet for Uranus.

They don't know where pluton is, but Roger pirates knew.

And Shirahoshi wasn't born yet.

So Roger pirates had the advantage on 1 ancient weapon to the WG's zero.

WG didn't have seraphs, invincible lunarian clones with strong warlord base models and paramecia fruits.

WG didn't have the countless Pacifista.

And many more of the technology vegapunk so naively built for them.



Then there's the admirals.


No Akainu Aokiji and Kizaru.


You really think if Roger and Roger pirates asked Garp to rebel against the WG with them, he wouldn't?

He would have at least stepped aside at the very least.


Roger pirates would have gotten help from WBP if Roger asked. Seeing as how they were in very good relation, and Roger even told WB about the void century stuff.




So yeah, they might've lost.

But they might not have too.

The WG was much weaker than it is now.


But they didn't even try at all.
 
Tbf, if Oda isnt feeling well after taking a break right before this he might want to look at getting someone else to draw the manga while he does the story, kinda like One punch man.
I think it's more to do with both OPLA and the next film being about to enter production, as well as stalling to make sure he has everything figured out before he pulls the trigger on the final saga.
 
It fucking wild to me people saying roger pirates should help the world or could help the world .
The fucking roger pirates did not even help Oden country and they travel with him .
The fucking break up and one become a yonko and did not even do shit and out here chasing down BB while Kaido fuck up Oden country for years .
But these people going to help the world come the fuck on .
Hell the only reason luffy will help the world is because he gaol will help take down WG as a after effect not because he want to or give a fuck .
 
Cobra is Lilys descendant but vivi looks like her mother who looks like lily :endthis:
Well Cobra has the genetics of Lilly so i can assume his Daughter could look like her no ?
Then you have also that reincarnation shit too maybe.
It's more obvious as reincarnation if they look similar. Like nika gummy shadow for Luffy and Joyboy
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I'm sure Oda's just busy with the Live Action
He drew also jjk in OP style. Must take a week
 
People keep saying this without taking anything we've learned into context

Nefertari D. Lili is confirmed to be one of the major reasons the Poneglyphs were spread after the Void Century ended and Joyboy was defeated

She's responsible for the message the Nefertari Family inherited which involved bringing about the dawn

If the side of the 20 Kings were so evil then why would Lili side with them until the end of the war?

Values change. A family that used to fight for justice could become corrupt and vice versa
It's implied to be Lily having a change of heart and going from Evil to good side.

Not lily being under the impression of the 20 kings being just and good.

You really think oda is gonna make Joyboy, the great ancestor of the current condom boy, anything but unambiguously good?


Ohara scholars figured out that WG was evil.

They got killed for it.

Punk says he continued/read Ohara's research.

Then why is he trying to paint WG as maybe having been good guys?

There's literally no ambiguity there.

THEY.ARE.EVIL.
 
his powers werent absolutely necessary to defeat kaido
yet no one did a thing for 20 yrs .......
Don't even get me started on that shit bro.


Fucking retard Lolden literally danced like a bitch for 5 years instead of putting an end to a weaker Kaido with weaker forces.

All because in 20 years a condom will wash upon the shores of wano and will put an end to all the evil in wnao.

Talk about relegating responsibility to some vague future rubber man.
 
That's such a bad excuse.


"oh lets all wait for the pirate jesus to come and save everyone"

Is what it boils down to in the end.


WG didn't have Motherflame yet for Uranus.

They don't know where pluton is, but Roger pirates knew.

And Shirahoshi wasn't born yet.

So Roger pirates had the advantage on 1 ancient weapon to the WG's zero.

WG didn't have seraphs, invincible lunarian clones with strong warlord base models and paramecia fruits.

WG didn't have the countless Pacifista.

And many more of the technology vegapunk so naively built for them.



Then there's the admirals.


No Akainu Aokiji and Kizaru.


You really think if Roger and Roger pirates asked Garp to rebel against the WG with them, he wouldn't?

He would have at least stepped aside at the very least.


Roger pirates would have gotten help from WBP if Roger asked. Seeing as how they were in very good relation, and Roger even told WB about the void century stuff.




So yeah, they might've lost.

But they might not have too.

The WG was much weaker than it is now.


But they didn't even try at all.
Grap did not rebel vs the WG when he knew they were killing babies , when he knew they were hunting and destroying whole countries and kill a person that is like a grandson to him .
But yeah he going hunt them down because he find out they bad and mind you he have to think they bad cause ray who know the whole history think people could come to differnt answer than the,
Like i said if these fucking people did not help oden country and they knew him and he had children on there ship why would fuck help the world.
They did nothing for 20 plus years and ten of thousands died in wano .
 
On paper Egghead should have been the best arc in the story but the execution is so bad it might be one of the worst
I don't think there will be any arc for me than dressrosa. When reading weekly imagine the stalling and running around to reach Doflamingo and guess let's draw that again for the second time

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