Spoiler One Piece Chapter 985 Spoilers Discussion

[yj]

I want to ask will Sanji surpass Cyrano ?

nope

 

[King7]

Because doffy isnt the second strongest.

he was in original Warlords , but only because Moria got weaker .

Kaido has had terrible track records in gauging power level though , he expected Jack to retrieve Doffy from a Marine fleet containing Fuji Sengoku Tsuru , he also send Jack to capture Luffy and Law

Kaido saying "mere Warlords" in 923 could also be another terrible power level gauging record , as Warlords included Mihawk . in this chapter he seems to think Warlords were a force to be reckoned with though , which shows his inconsistency

lastly i strongly believe Warlords and their crews were meant to counterbalance 1 Emperor crew , and Doffy was like the 3rd strongest in every set , taking into account prime Moria

Mihawk -> Emperor

prime Moria/Yami Teach/Weevil -> YC1

Doflamingo and prime Kuma -> YC2 and 3

Jinbe-Crocodile-Hancock/Hancock-Law -> Snack/Orochi , and some Veterans/F6

Vergo Pica Diamante Trebol -> the rest of Veterans/F6

Oars/Hajrudin-Stansen-Goldberg-Rodo-Gerd -> fused Charlotte Decuplets/Numbers
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so Kaido calling Doffy weak means nothing really , as he is a dumbass .

 

[Red Dog]

Pay Pay isn't going to die.

He and Ulti will survive, escape and reform their crew and have their own adventures after Wano arc.

Maybe but if then I hope they will join straw hats grand fleet tho

 

[Seth]

prime Moria

Damn you Kaido

 

[Buusatan94]

Maybe but if then I hope they will join straw hats grand fleet tho

I'd prefer if they stay independant.

 

[Seth]

I don't like the idea of Yamato in the crew because of her Oden wank.
+ Luffy has his own dreams and Yamato is probably going to be a worse clown than Oden.
Luffy doesn't have time to babysit anyone + imagine if someone captures her FFS.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

You tell me. How strong was Luffy when he entered Wano?!! A low top tier?!!! Because that's the level people are putting Yamato at, and based on current evidence, that's bs.

Like I said if she can't show definitive proof that she is strong, based on current evidence, I will put her with Who's Who.

How? When Luffy entered Wano he couldn't take off Collars either. She trolled G2 and 3 Luffy by herself.

 

[Finalbeta]

Let's not turn the thread toxic guys

 

[Seth]

 

[Rorono zoro]

By reviving Onigashima with Big Mom‘s power. They can easily move Onigashima if they want to.
I can actually see a fight between Onigashima and Zunisha happening.

Big mom takes part of her soul and revives small things
How much does Big Mom need to reduce her life in order to reviving a giant island ?!

How will Zunisha climb the waterfall?

 

[PrinceKun]

Ulti > Yamato

Yamato is OVERRATED

 

[Seth]

Who cut me but your fodders didn't finish

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't like the idea of Yamato in the crew because of her Oden wank.
+ Luffy has his own dreams and Yamato is probably going to be a worse clown than Oden.
Luffy doesn't have time to babysit anyone + imagine if someone captures her FFS.

I doubt the Oden wank would continue past the arc. Clearly there is some form of Identity tragedy going on with her character. Luffy will help her resolve that conflict and she'll become her own person.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

The best thing about daz was his interactions with other characters at least

Like while alone hes aight. Impel down and marineford definitely helped his cool points tho.

Yeah i agree,
I really hope we see something similar with King like more of King interacting with the other beast pirates etc

That's a a sad thing tho

I swear, Oda basically only made King to be relevant when he is getting beaten

He likes drawing queen and flyers,

King has been the Compote/smoothie of Kaido top 9
Queen is the Katakuri or Perospero, running the arc
Flyers are being relevant like Oven and Daifuku had more screntime and action than Smoothie and compote.

Oda should have not given fodders so much focus, now king is barely interesting, even his race isn't that important coz the whole arc now focuses on Yamato and Rocks revival

I completely agree here atm
I really really hope we'll get more focus in King and his race

The fact that fodders got more screentime than freaking King himself is pissing me off fr
Now Yamato will be the center of this whole crap

 

[Paperchampion23]

By reviving Onigashima with Big Mom‘s power. They can easily move Onigashima if they want to.
I can actually see a fight between Onigashima and Zunisha happening.

She can't revive dead things, this was explicitly stated in WCI. She does not have Moria's powers

 

[Saikō No Kenshi]

How I know Oda, my assumption is Orochi will somehow be saved by the Kozukis...

That's more than an actual defeat for him, maybe this is the emotional break down for Orochi....

 

[Finalbeta]

Yamato is OVERRATED

I love both if I had to be honest ~

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Oda setting up the F6 vs Luffy and Yamato.
I can imagine that Luffy get stalled by Pageone and Ulti in next chapter while Who's Who taking out Yamato or at least catch her.

 

[Seth]

I wonder what's Big Mom plan right now.

She will act helpful for some time and then she will do something + there is Perospero who can potentially influence Big Mom greatly to betray him maybe?

 

[AL sama]

orochi is inspired by the nine headed dragon of japanese myth and given his DF I highly doubt that he is dead

in the myth losing one head won't kill the dragon

so I believe orochi to have somewhat of a similar ability