I don’t take that doctrine too literally, and I don’t think most other Jews do either

Do I think I’m chosen? Yeah maybe idk.

I think it’s more of, by choosing to live as a Jew, I have a certain moral responsibility that others might not necessarily have.

I think that is the standard interpretation of it. That and having a special destiny.

There are definitely those people tho who think being Jewish legitimately makes them better than others. I think this is what a lot of extreme religious Zionists believe.
yeah,i think Zionists have some superiority complex too. Just look how some ultra orthox jews treat christians in Israel.
 
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Dude they didn’t own the land nor did the Zionists. The Ottomans lost, and paid the price from the perspective of the British with the loss of their 7 centuries long empire, what did the local populace do to be driven out of their homes? Like you can’t drive people out of their homes because you claim that God promised you the land. Zionists have been on the offensive ever since they drafted the Balfour Declaration, every other move they‘ve made has been to further annex more land in their quest of ‘Eretz Yisrael’.

Does this look like someone who wants to defend himself? Bibi pulled out a map that had no Palestinian lands on it in front of the UN not long before October 7th:

8 months of destruction since then and yet you think they’re simply on the defensive? What Zionist joint are you smoking?
What Palestinians were removed from their homes? By Hamas you saying? Because Israel didn't.

And as always you give 0 shit about hostages. Israel is yet to recover all hostages made from October 7th. So yes they are defending themselves.
 
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Again. You don't understand that a judgment is not a necessity to assess the reality of a crime.
We already agreed that you have 0 knowledge when is comes to justice system. Right?

Still no.

They are simply expending their colonization process.
The first country to colonize by having their citizens forced removed from said colonized area when searching for a peace agreement. Omg!
 
We already agreed that you have 0 knowledge when is comes to justice system. Right?
This is not about justice.

But then again, you are the type of guy that would put into question the testimony of rape of two of your friend if they are women as demonstrated here:

To be honest I don't know. Depends a lot of my connection with all those people how much I know them. All those things related to human connection that you are clearless about it. I don't know with my female friends have the habit of lie or if my male friend have the habit of being aggressive towards woman. We recently saw how judging goes wrong with Johnny Deep and Amber Head trial. Woman are not above to the law or incapable of lying.
You are not the type of person that I would trust about justice. Or even as a friend.

The first country to colonize by having their citizens forced removed from said colonized area when searching for a peace agreement. Omg!
And by putting under blocus like an open air prison with checkpoint said zone. And also not mentionning the fact that the authority are planning to take back said zone or Israeli People still colonizing huge parts of Palestine.

Keep on being awfull mate.
 
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This is not about justice.

But then again, you are the type of guy that would put into question the testimony of rape of two of your friend if they are women as demonstrated here:
Yes. Because that's not how justice works "someone said so it is true because people don't lie" this is insanity.

You are not the type of person that I would trust about justice. Or even as a friend.
You have to learn what justice means first. And don't worry I'd never be friend of someone that is in favor of terrorists and fake rape reports.

And by putting under blocus like an open air prison with checkpoint said zone. And also not mentionning the fact that the authority are planning to take back said zone or Israeli People still colonizing huge parts of Palestine.

Keep on being awfull mate
Ain't no such thing as open air prison.
 
Yes. Because that's not how justice works "someone said so it is true because people don't lie" this is insanity.
Again, courage to your friends. With someone like you, no one needs enemy.


You have to learn what justice means first.
Don't worry about that mate. I know. And that's not what we are talking about here.

Justice is here to judge.

We are not judges, its not our job. We are here to trust. Especially when the investigations are done by experts or when we have clear visual evidences and testimonies.


And don't worry I'd never be friend of someone that is in favor of terrorists and fake rape reports.
You are talking about you here ? As Israel as terrorists ? Because its weird, it sounds like you are lying here ..

Ain't no such thing as open air prison.
The denial is real with you..
 
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Again, courage to your friends. With someone like you, no one needs enemy.
Everytime you try to trash talk someone or anything it always fits you perfectly. Impressive!

Don't worry about that mate. I know. And that's not what we are talking about here.

Justice is here to judge.

We are not judges, its not our job. We are here to trust. Especially when the investigations are done by experts or when we have clear visual evidences and testimonies.
You are completely clueless of anything towards justice no wonder you say you are not a judge but still judges everyone and everything.

You are talking about you here ? As Israel as terrorists ? Because its weird, it sounds like you are lying here ..
Hamas > terrorists
You accepting as ultimate true whenever a woman reports a man of rape without any evidence of that > fake rape reports

The denial is real with you..
By the way I'm reporting you of rape, genocide and terrorism. Please go to the nearest jail and turn yourself to the police and says that I don't need any evidence to support that. I'm waiting.
 
Everytime you try to trash talk someone or anything it always fits you perfectly. Impressive!
Reverse Uno is just a card in a table game Toymaker.


You are completely clueless of anything towards justice no wonder you say you are not a judge but still judges everyone and everything.
Again, you are confusing legal and civil judgement. I bet that you would be the kind of guy that would say that will need to wait for H. Weistein to be judged before believing the victims.

Yeah.. cringe.


Hamas > terrorists
Nop. Some of them are war criminal, but this is an armed resistance. In regard to international laws, the Hamas is not considered a terrorist organization. Sorry mate.


You accepting as ultimate true whenever a woman reports a man of rape without any evidence of that > fake rape reports
Looking at the fact that fake report are between 4 and 9 %, yeah. I will always tend to believe women. Can't say the same about you since you prefer to take the side of oppressors

:kayneshrug:

By the way I'm reporting you of rape, genocide and terrorism. Please go to the nearest jail and turn yourself to the police and says that I don't need any evidence to support that. I'm waiting.
You say what you want mate.

I have a clear mind.. I hope that you are the same when you defend the actions of someone that bomb children.

:kata:
 
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Reverse Uno is just a card in a table game Toymaker.
And you literally did the same thing against me hahaha. You are a joke.

Again, you are confusing legal and civil judgement. I bet that you would be the kind of guy that would say that will need to wait for H. Weistein to be judged before believing the victims.

Yeah.. cringe.
Yes you do because there is always something that media doesn't tell you because it already picked a side. Again all fake rape reports are like that. You'd have condemned innocent Johnny Deep.

Nop. Some of them are war criminal, but this is an armed resistance. In regard to international laws, the Hamas is not considered a terrorist organization. Sorry mate.
You probably have an example of every war crime made by Hamas yet they are not considered a terrorist group by international law? Of course by the Nazis that wants to destroy Israel.

War crimes committed by Hamas:

  1. Sending rockets targeting Israel civilians.
  2. Kidnap to make usage of civilians as hostages.
  3. Using Palestine civilians as human shield.
  4. Using Palestine civilian centers for militar purposes.
  5. Executed without trial (which you defend that much) Palestinians by the charge of being Israelis spies.
  6. "Hired" children to construct their cross-border tunnels resulting in the death of more than 160 children.
  7. They killed the hostages many are being find already dead.
  8. They tortured hostages, including raping them.
But sure they are not terrorists and have the right to defend themselves with weapons against a nation that never initiates attacks towards them.
 
And you literally did the same thing against me hahaha. You are a joke.
No. I'm not only reversing your outrage, I'm also adding the fact that you support literal children bombing.


Yes you do because there is always something that media doesn't tell you because it already picked a side. Again all fake rape reports are like that. You'd have condemned innocent Johnny Deep.
Depp is not innocent mate. He is an abuser.

Once again, you are taking the side of the oppressor.


You probably have an example of every war crime made by Hamas yet they are not considered a terrorist group by international law?
Only Daesh and Al Quaida are considered Terrorist group by international right. I don't make the laws. Educate yourself.


  1. Sending rockets targeting Israel civilians.
  2. Kidnap to make usage of civilians as hostages.
  3. Using Palestine civilians as human shield.
  4. Using Palestine civilian centers for militar purposes.
  5. Executed without trial (which you defend that much) Palestinians by the charge of being Israelis spies.
  6. "Hired" children to construct their cross-border tunnels resulting in the death of more than 160 children.
  7. They killed the hostages many are being find already dead.
  8. They tortured hostages, including raping them.
You don't know what a war crime is, right ?

Because "using civilians as a human shield" is not receivable in court mate. That's a point of view from a belligerent. In reality they are hidding just like any people would hide under resistance in their situation. What is a war crime on the other hand, its to bomb on safe zones.

But yes, Hamas did some of those things and some of those things are indeed war crimes.

Thing is.. both side have done those things (Israelian did those things with prisonners or civilians for ex).. In fact if we are objective, Israel did WORSE things such as willingly starve millions of people or bomb civilians willingly in order to make a global punishment.

Also, its funny how quick you are to believe Israel Propaganda, but when international expert are explaining the presence of the genocide by Israel, you have poney.
 
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This isn’t a war crime
Third Geneva Convention, Article 23, first paragraph
ART. 23. — No prisoner of war may at any time be sent to, or detained in areas where he may be exposed to the fire of the combat zone, nor may his presence be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations
Fourth Geneva Convention, Article 28
The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.
Additional Protocol I, Article 51(7)
7. The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations.

Some of the articles of Geneva convention are what are used as arguments that Israel commited war crimes (additional protocol article 17- forced movement of civilians as a example). So putting civilians in risk to protect military objectives or operations, including using human shields are considered war crimes by many nations, including those that do not participate in those treaties. For more information I recommend this link .
 
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