General & Others Zoro’s first conqueror

[Albino 👑]

Who will be zoro’s first opponent to have conquerors haki?


For better or worse 99% of conquerors in the series are gonna be tied to Luffy whether it’s his allies or enemies. With it really not having real set of qualities that they all need to have in order to be one if we’re being honest. It again just being more luffy related more than anything
All that to say zoro likely won’t face many of them on his journey. Tho not having it doesn’t necessarily mean your at all weak or can’t be stronger than those with it


New world opponents so far

• Monet obviously no
• Pica obviously no
• Alber was called king and still didn’t
• Lucci was a past opponent of luffy and has a strong will but nope

Future new world opponents imo

• Shiryu probably won’t despite likely being a darker parallel to the king of hell stuff imo
• Mihawk if I’m being honest I’m 50/50 with him along with the other 2 cross guild members having it. His role in cg along with his reaction to luffy having it are kinda weird. So again I can see it going either way
• Zodiac (orange…) I imagine they’ll be strong but even the admirals having it isn’t a guarantee so whatever zodiac zoro faces probably won’t
• Imu subordinate
  • If a gorosei then definitely because we already know they have it
  • If a seraphim probably not idk
  • If a holy knight maybe but we don’t know much so

 

[Salah WG]

Zodiac Vice Admiral ofc
Everyone agrees that Zoro's Next Challenge is defeating an SBS Vice Admiral lol

 

[grey matter]

Only Mihawk and Gandhi, whoever faces him first

Lucci's character is very conqueror like tho, he deserves it.

 

[Albino 👑]

Only Mihawk and Gandhi, whoever faces him first

Lucci's character is very conqueror like tho, he deserves it.

With there really not being any set traits to actually have conquerors haki until he actually shows it off or is said to have it Lucci isn’t a conqueror


There are characters that people don’t think fit the pattern to have it that do and characters that people do think have the pattern to have it but don’t
Main reason being that there isn’t actually a pattern

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nesjuro

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

You created this thread just to say this crap >

• Mihawk if I’m being honest I’m 50/50 with him along with the other 2 cross guild members having it. His role in cg along with his reaction to luffy having it are kinda weird. So again I can see it going either way

Mihawk will 100% have CoC. I'd bet my account on it.

 

[Thaidakar]

Technically he already beat someone who had CoC for sure. Ryuma. But his zombie seemed incapable of using haki in general.

Before we go to Ghandi and Mihawk I think zoro needs a Kid-moment. He needs to beat a powerful base CoC pirate that challenges luffy. Hopefully we'll get one on Elbaf.

 

[Albino 👑]

You created this thread just to say this crap >


Mihawk will 100% have CoC. I'd bet my account on it.

No
I’m just not sure he’s going to have it. He could but there’s also a chance he doesn’t imo

People assumed king would have it but he didn’t
I was one of the few that would say I want shiryu have conquerors but the more time passes the less likely I think it is
All the admirals likely don’t have it despite how strong they are or strong willed

Could mihawk have it? Yes but there’s also a chance he doesn’t

 

[CbShadow]

Zoro already fought Mihawk, Luffy, Kaido and Big Mom.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Yes but there’s also a chance he doesn’t

There is zero chance him not having it. I don't have the patience to argue against this bs.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

No
I’m just not sure he’s going to have it. He could but there’s also a chance he doesn’t imo

People assumed king would have it but he didn’t
I was one of the few that would say I want shiryu have conquerors but the more time passes the less likely I think it is
All the admirals likely don’t have it despite how strong they are or strong willed

Could mihawk have it? Yes but there’s also a chance he doesn’t

he will have it 100% there is no chance lol this is simply u trying to figure out a way to cope until then

 

[JoNdule]

There is zero chance him not having it. I don't have the patience to argue against this bs.

Why should he have it?
When he has shown no CoC characteristics

The dude serves under a fraud,
Always hiding behind an organisation

 

[HA001]

Why should he have it?
When he has shown no CoC characteristics

The dude serves under a fraud,
Always hiding behind an organisation

Bet your account then

 

[zenox]

i am a fuckin retard who thought zoro wont have coc

 

[Foul Legacy]

Why should he have it?
When he has shown no CoC characteristics

The dude serves under a fraud,
Always hiding behind an organisation

Bruh istg.
If you see Ndule like under your post.
Ignore that person as well , you will have less brain damage to deal with.

 

[Moegara]

Why should he have it?
When he has shown no CoC characteristics

The dude serves under a fraud,
Always hiding behind an organisation

I thought we were talking about Mihawk, when did Katakuri enter the discussion?

 

[Albino 👑]

he will have it 100% there is no chance lol this is simply u trying to figure out a way to cope until then

If we’re being honest

1. Him not really being tied to luffy much doesn’t help him
2. His reaction to luffy’s conquerors in marineford was weird to say the least
3. His role is cross guild is more weird if buggy and crocodile don’t have it. Which they likely don’t but if they all do cool tbh

Also

There are characters that people don’t think fit the pattern to have it that do and characters that people do think have the pattern to have it but don’t
Main reason being that there isn’t actually a pattern

 

[grey matter]

With there really not being any set traits to actually have conquerors haki until he actually shows it off or is said to have it Lucci isn’t a conqueror


There are characters that people don’t think fit the pattern to have it that do and characters that people do think have the pattern to have it but don’t
Main reason being that there isn’t actually a pattern

Yeah, I'm not saying Lucci a conqueror. Just saying that his iron will and nature is that of a conqueror; if Oda randomly came and said he is a conqueror, a lot of people wouldn't find that shocking

I don't think there are any character that doesn't show the aura of a conqueror having conqueror's haki. No cowards or weak willed dudes have been shown to be conquerors so far.
However, there are characters who shown the aura/persona not having it as well: Lucci, Wiper, King, Aokiji etc. just to name a few.

Seems more like:
"all conqueror's are characters which fit a certain aura/persona, but not all characters having that vibe are necessarily conquerors"

 

[CbShadow]

Why should he have it?
When he has shown no CoC characteristics

The dude serves under a fraud,
Always hiding behind an organisation

How can you honestly believe that when Mihawk traveled the world challenging stronger and stronger opponents to prove he was the strongest. The databook doesn't say anything about his opponents were limited to just swordsman. Those are conqueror characteristics. That's no different than somebody challenging the world to become a king, which is what he did.

What makes him a fraud? Is it because diamond was needed to stop his hakiless nameless attack? Is it because he can fight a YC without focusing on them and still not receive a single hit? Is it because the manga hyped his strength above the combined powers of 3 admirals?

You claim he's hiding behind an organization but do you think yonkos, Marines or the WG would be as strong as they are without their members of their organization? Make it make sense. You can't become a yonko without a powerful crew.

Keep pushing that headcannon.

 

[Albino 👑]

Yeah, I'm not saying Lucci a conqueror. Just saying that his iron will and nature is that of a conqueror; if Oda randomly came and said he is a conqueror, a lot of people wouldn't find that shocking

I don't think there are any character that doesn't show the aura of a conqueror having conqueror's haki. No cowards or weak willed dudes have been shown to be conquerors so far.
However, there are characters who shown the aura/persona not having it as well: Lucci, Wiper, King, Aokiji etc. just to name a few.

Seems more like:
"all conqueror's are characters which fit a certain aura/persona, but all characters having that vibe are not necessarily conquerors"

Fair enough

Yeah I personally don’t have a problem with any of the revealed conquerors tbh but I know in general people act like some are underserving of it

Yeah fair enough