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NAMELESS

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Herrera95 said:
Grow up dude. And educate yourself.
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That goes for civil marriage right? I don't know why this is so important. What are the benefits of marrying?
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They actually do. In treatment if they didn't commit any crime. Or in jail if they did.
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You think these pedo jokes are funny? Are you a retard or a straight up a motherfucker?
Bisoromi Bear said:
I found it by chance actually. Nice way to dodge the question tho.

Usually tax benefits, permission to adopt children, legal representation, allowed to visit in hospital etc...

But I just did ooopsie
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Why would i give details about my privacy to a bozo like you?
 
Toby D. Dog

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Herrera95 said:
Is not my own definition. Is THE definition. Again you don't even know what you are talking about. You are not prepared for this debate dude.

And no dude. Here in Brazil we have a very smart thing in law called age of consent so I can have relationship with anyone over 13 (not included) years old.
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You only saw cartoon so you are fine.
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No it didn't. Turning 18 years old don't magically makes you "available" for sex in nature. Everyone has their own time and it is way earlier. You know pretty well that teenagers are fucking with each other in much younger ages. The paper is just to blame the 18+ who wants to have sex with 18- which is fucking ridiculous since 2 people with 17 would also be considered as pedophiles to each other following the paper "logic".


Pre-pubescent and that means people younger than 12 years old. So no one is a pedophile by wanting to dating anyone from 13 and above. There are other names for those people.
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You're not ready for this debate he says.

You're a massive retard bro, thank God you're a social reject and a wanna be debate bro with 0 rizz. Not even a minor would be dumb enough to associate themselves with you. Hope you get jumped you illiterate pedo.
 
Monkey D Theories

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Herrera95 said:
And no dude. Here in Brazil we have a very smart thing in law called age of consent so I can have relationship with anyone over 13 (not included) years old.
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I don’t know what the culture is like in Brazil

but if I were to guess, any adult dating a 14 year old would probably be considered a shameless degenerate, regardless of whether or not it’s legal.
 
Daniel

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So, I found this gem of a post from Reddit by the user named OrSpeeder

https://www.reddit.com/r/apocalympics2016/comments/4wp40a
For those wondering, why the "low" age of consent:

Most cultures in the planet, had age of consent around that time, for example in Athenian Greece people made a point to marry girls at that age (something Spartans didn't liked, because pregnancies were riskier).

In Brazil, when the countries all started to bump age of consent to 18 or 21, and introduce strong child porn laws, went along, and put age of consent to 18, and child porn laws the mininum age is 18 too...

This created problems, in many parts of Brazil, people still married at 14, sometimes with both being "underage" (14 year old bride with a 16 year old groom for example), and in the "westernized" parts of Brazil, like São Paulo and Rio, it is normal to lose virginity (usually against parents wishes) in ages between 13 and 17

Thus, age of consent law at 18 was obviously unrealistic, 15 year olds were fucking (and marring in some cultures) like rabbits, and thus you suddenly made a huge swath of the population criminals for no good reason, just to please other countries.

So, a compromise was made:

Age of consent is 14, but if the minor (someone between 14 and 18) complains to the police about being raped, or "seduced", you get harsher punishment (ie: you are treated as pedophile)

Age of consent for sex photos is still 18 (ie: even if you legally marry a 17 year old bride, if you take a picture of her, and someone finds it in your stuff, you get arrested for possession of child porn)

This way Brazil could make other countries happy, while not making most of the teenagers criminals for no reason. (also, "Romeo and Juliet" laws wouldn't work, in Brazil native american communities, or places more isolated, girls frequently marry a guy much older in hopes of having a better life, as those guys usually are already educated and have jobs, and thus can afford taking care of the house financially while the girls finish their education, in contrast to their parents, that might have too many children to support, and can't do it).

EDIT: tl;dr: age of consent law was first 18, it obviously clashed with local culture, thus it was lowered to 14 that makes more sense.
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Daniel

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Bisoromi Bear

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NAMELESS said:
Everything in this post is true. There was a girl in my class that was a prostitute when she was around 16 years old. No,she wasn't poor. She was doing it for thrill of it. Bitch tried to fuck me too.
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Why was the first thing I thought of the self prostitution if Japanese teen girls where they act like a girlfried to older guys who give them expensive gifs in return?
 
Monkey D Theories

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Bisoromi Bear said:
Laws usually are the product of culture whether you like it or not.
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Yeah

After thinking about it a bit more, I don't think it makes sense to automatically assume that all cultures would have the same views on sexual morality.

Pedophilia as a concept is something relatively new. In the past nobody really cared about this type of stuff. Then I believe with the women's rights movement of the 21st century, there was a big push by progressives to create greater protections for children. Conservatives then kinda took this idea of a pedophile, and started using it to fearmonger about LGBT people and push their "tough on crime" policies.

That being said, I do think that objective morality exists. Taking advantage of people who are less physically and mentally capable is wrong, regardless of what the majority thinks.
 
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